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Author:  Bonita [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:50 am ]
Post subject:  Making a girl a woman...

One of the founding principles of PU is to leave her better than you found her. So in a sense--make a girl a woman. I have always said that I did a lot of the things PU teaches, but now I just know the terminology. Well, in reality, PU has changed my life completely without me even realizing it.

Thanks to you guys, I have realized what I want in a man. I mean this seriously. When I used to go out, I would be happy and flattered by the guys that approached me. They were genuinely good guys but for some reason I was never happy with them and now I know why. They didn't transform me. They didn't transform me because they were so invested in the relationship that they didn't want to mess up...so they would always agree with me or did what I said (just examples). Never did they stand up for themselves and think for one second that they were a prize to be sought. Rather they treated me like I was the prize and tried not to lose me....but if you think like that....if you do not believe you are a prize too, why should any other woman?

I am writing this because one thing has become clear over the past several days...learning about PU has made my dating life so much harder. I now look for the qualities of a good PUA in every guy I meet because that is what I want in a guy. Other guys will do anything not to offend or disagree with me, but that does not challenge me or make me grow. I am not complaining...it sounds negative that I am not happy meeting guys now. But on the contrary...I am just not happy with the guys that I have encountered so far. My standards are much higher and I can stop wasting time like before when I didn't know what I wanted. So thank you guys...you have inadvertently left me better than you met me :)


~B

Author:  DeanClean [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:56 am ]
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If only I had you around when talking to the girl's that don't believe me that they WANT to get hit on by a PUA

Author:  Reo [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:27 am ]
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I'm pretty sure i mentioned in chat one day you won't be able to date normal guys anymore...thats been the case with every girl i know thats read this stuff

Author:  Mr. Fickle [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:38 am ]
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hook up with one of us! i'd personally suggest rye or kalel....just some food for thought, nom nom nom

Author:  Roads [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:17 am ]
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B, I'm happy that PUA has changed your thinking and lifted your standards in men.

EDIT: ___deleted unimportant philosophy regarding the "good in every man" and replaced with___

Oh wait...no I'm not! The idea of this site was to make it easier, not harder to meet and seduce beautiful women. To think that I, we have just made some poor bastard's untrained attempts to get into your pants that much more difficult... :cry:

You look hot in that picture. Please send nudie photos. Thanks.

Author:  Mjaaay [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:30 am ]
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yeah moar pics on op

ps: you're one of the few who actually appreciates pu, my sister simply looked down on me when i showed her some cool stuff from "the game"

Author:  madals [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:40 am ]
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PUA also helped me better understand what i wanted in females, so I can relate to where your coming from. And don't worry, you'll find a PUA or Natural who will meet your new criteria. And it will be worth the wait.
I am to lazy to re-write that in my own words, thats what i basically would have said :)

Author:  Ezo [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:28 pm ]
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Great post!

This is the shit we need to hear! In your face people who think PU evil!

I completely agree, my standards in women are higher too. I have realized that in order to have a relationship with someone you need to help each other improve and challenge each other!

Lets take this discussion further, what parts of your personality do you want to be challenged on? I personally wanna have self confidence, discussion techniques but above all have my way of thinking challenged. I want a partner who can show you a new way to see the world, a new pattern of thought. This is what makes you grow. To understand the world.

I think one reason most relationships end is that you realize that there is nothing more you can learn from the other person. It does not take you anywhere.

So things that make a girl a woman:
- New ways of thinking
- Self confidence
- Discovering a new lifestyle
- Discovering a new estethic thing (art, music, PU etc)

Please help me fill the list...

B, you will find a great guy. Most PUAs fake it in the beginning but after a while it becomes a part of their personality!

Ezo

Author:  fabie [ Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:21 pm ]
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Thanks for this post, I realize that my regard for women is a lot higher since PU. But when it comes to turning a girl into a women I still have much to learn, my confidence is one, and anxiety is another. I hold my self because I think too much about how other people percieve me.

Author:  Chief [ Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Making a girl a woman...

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So in a sense--make a girl a woman.
Oh, gee, I wonder where you heard that from

The guy who said that must be really smart and sexy

:P

Author:  Hopeless Romantic [ Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:24 am ]
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Great post. It made me think of a conversation I was having with one of my female friends. And it ended with me lecturing her on helping guys out who weren't able to pick her up because they were too AFC. And I told her that she should help them out when they ask her why she didn't like them. Instead of giving the same response of "You're just not my type" tell them what they can do differently. Since finding out about PU I know hate when women give that speech. About how you'll just find someone special and it'll just happen. It doesn't work like that. Now, I want to try to change that conversation into more of what you can do better so you'll have more of a chance with the next girl.

Author:  Jaybot [ Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:50 am ]
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Learning about being a PUA has given me faith in all things female again, I used to be deeply bitter about how false all the women I met were but it was a simple case of miscommunication. All women are interesting and have amazing stories to tell its just they choose not to unless you can take down their defenses.

In short I have taught lots of women to have more respect and confidence for themselves and through learning PUA have met a girl that may be the one (don't even start with that one-itis crap lol)

Author:  Rye Lee [ Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:14 am ]
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I'm really happy for you Bonita! You know how I feel about helping women find good men, so I'm glad you're on that track now and not gonna end up with some chump that's gonna placate to you, or stand for someone that will treat you like garbage.

On the idea of knowing what kind of guy/girl you are looking for, I think everyone should check out this thread I made recently: do-you-know-what-you-need-in-a-woman-i-do-vt29674.html This should be a pre-requisite for starting out as a PUA.

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