Author Message
PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:06 am 
Offline
Moderator Emeritus
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:17 pm
Posts: 4508
Website: http://www.facebook/urbanundergroundculture.com
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Something that's truly important for anyone intent one achieving a meaningful relationship, is to take some time to reflect, go over your values, compare them to what you typically look for in a partner and figure out what's congruent and what's not. Not only do you need to make sure that what you're looking for in a woman fits with your values (if it doesn't, the relationship is pretty much doomed, because you won't have the same values and you will end up with major conflicts, creating unhappiness), but you also need to figure out what exactly it is you are looking for in a woman or man and why!

I'm not talking about quantitative things, like a 34C cup size, blond hair, blue eyes and 5'6", or 6'2 with a dark complexion, with a PhD and a house on the beach. That shit's irrelevant. Sure, you might prefer those things. You might desire them. You might even have a prejudice against people that don't fit certain racial groups, pay grades, or body types. But those are things your body is attracted to and that typically are inconsequential when you meet someone you really "spark" with. I've even heard of Jewish people marrying anti-semites and racists suddenly falling for someone from the race they still continue to disdain, so those things can be overlooked even in the most extreme of cases.

No, what I'm talking about is qualitative aspects, such as personality traits, likes and dislikes; that sort of thing. That's what makes or breaks a relationship. That's what ends up destroying a union between two people, because the man is a workaholic and the woman values family time, or the woman is a control freak and incredibly anal retentive, while the man values freedom and casual dissorganization. These people can't be happy, it just won't work. Values can be re-aligned and changed, or re-organized, but what if they don't want to do that, or they don't know how? It's much easier to seek out someone that shares similar values and that you don't have to "fix" in order to achieve a successful relationship.

I've worked with guys that spent months or years dissinterested in women, because they didn't realise what they were looking for in a woman and so none of them appealed to them. I've worked with other men and women as well, who ended up in relationships that constantly turned out to be like the previous one and ended up being everything they didn't want. They did this excercise and suddenly they could identify who they should be attracted to and they were, as well as they new why they were attracted to those people, so they were more capable of dealing with the situation effectively and didn't get lost trying to figure out why certain things the person did would make them upset and others would drive them crazy with lust. They were also able to readily identify the ones that they longed to stay away from, for fear of another catastrophic relationship.

-------------------------------------------

Now that you're convinced about how useful this activity is and why you're doing it, let's cover exactly what you'll be doing:

Get yourself comfortable to reflect, however you do it best. Some people do their best reflection in the shower, some do it while talking with someone else, some grab a pen and just start writing, some meditate, some go for a run, so do whatever it is that works best for you, don't think you just have to sit there and concentrate, because that may not be the best way to go about meaningful reflection for you personally and you'll just end up frustrated. Me personally, I can't stop reflecting, so any of the above work for me.

Now, like I said, think about what your values are. Think about what it is that you see as meaningful in yourself, the standards that you hold yourself to. I'll list a few of mine - in no particular order - so you get the point:

Honour/Honesty & Integrity
Action towards Success
Passion
Health
Happiness
Acceptance
Contribution
Intimacy and Closeness
Kindness and compassion
Adventure and Excitement
Intelliegence and Resourcefulness
Growth and Improvement

I created this list by completing some of the activities in Anthony Robbin's book Awaken the Giant Within, which is a really worthwhile book and tremendous for building inner game. You don't need to read the book to do it, I'm sure you're able to figure out what things your highest values in life are, although I encourage you to spend a bit of time doing so and not just dash out the first things that come to mind, because that doesn't mean they're the most important ones. One of the first things that pops into my head when I'm thinking of things I value, is my computer, my bed, a good book, or a glass of iced tea, but you won't find any of those things on my list. :lol:

------------------------------------

Once you have discovered your values, you can figure out what you're looking for in a partner. You want to come up with qualities that you feel you need, not that you want. Traits that a partner must possess in order for a relationship with them to be enjoyable. Sounds easy, but remember, you need to make sure that those things are congruent with your values, because if they're not, you aren't going to be happy being with them and they won't be happy being with you and it will inevitably fall apart.

Figure out what a partner absolutely must not have, or else the relationship will fail.

While you doing those, determine why they need to possess those those traits, or why you cannot allow those other ones. Understand why is just as important as figuring out the traits, if not more so. If anything doesn't make sense, question why you've decided upon that aspect, perhaps it isn't congruent with your values, or perhaps you don't actually need it and it's just a want, which is fine, but it just limits your ability to find that person that you're truly going to connect with.

Write a list out, in the form of "must have", "need" and "cannot be" statements, such as "She cannot be a smoker" or "He must have a sense of humor I can relate to."

By the time you're done, this shouldn't be a short piece, this is gonna be LONG. This may take up a page, or perhaps several. Go back over it and cross off anything you identify as things that aren't completely necessary, or that you're just worded in more than one way, as it will make your list easier to remember and expand your options for potential partners. Even when you're done reducing it some, it should still be quite lengthy. Try not to be too specific, or you end up reducing your options greatly and no one fits, but don't be too broad either, or everyone will qualify.

Again, this may only take you an hour, or maybe it'll take you a week to do the whole thing. Be honest, because it's not going to matter to anyone but you and no one is going to benefit from it aside from you. No one else has to see it either, unless you'd like to post it here to share with myself and others. If you need any help with it, you know how to reach me! :wink:

_________________
"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:14 am 
Offline
Moderator Emeritus
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:17 pm
Posts: 4508
Website: http://www.facebook/urbanundergroundculture.com
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Here's part of what I've got for mine. This resulted from another guy mentioning that I seem to prefer gaming Alpha females:


As for the Alpha females, I guess you could classify them as such, yeah. I like a woman with confidence, because I don't like having to constantly re-assure her that she's amazing and worth my time, although I still think those things should be done in a healthy relationship and I enjoy doing them when appropriate. I think I am attracted to Alpha's, because I don't want to be with someone that is less-than me, I want someone that I can view as an equal and respect as such, so that I can ask their opinion on something and value it, rather than finding it pointless, or uninspired. I want someone that is capable of healthy displays of emotion, without being a drama queen, or being emotionless, as I am a passionate and emotional person and need someone that is willing to explore that range of emotions with me, while respecting me for it, because they can understand it from personal experience. I like a woman that isn't afraid to lead, but who must also be willing to follow, as well as proceed side by side, because sometimes I feel equiped and driven to lead, sometimes I like to be led (especially love to be teased and dominated - in a non S&M kind of way - in the bedroom, which is something most Beta girls don't do very well, if at all) and sometimes the situation calls for us to do things together equally. She has to be willing to take risks and try new things, because I value new experiences highly and grow bored without them, as well as enjoying to do things that most girls find too risque or bold. She has to feel the need to protect her loved ones, because I am only human and although I am strong, I am not impervious and sometimes I may need care, yet she needs to be willing to be cared for. The one thing I DON'T give a crap about, is whether or not anyone else desires her (aka pre-selection); I don't care if anyone else thinks she's hot, or the nicest person, or the most intelligent, or any of those things - although obviously she has to be capable of getting along with people, as I'm a very social person and I'd like her to participate in that, otherwise we won't get to share in many aspects of life - because I'm the one that has to be attracted to her and I'm the one that has to love her, no one else, so their opinion on those things doesn't matter and her being desired by others won't make me covet her any more or less, it will only increase my paranoia, because again I'm only human.

_________________
"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:41 pm 
Offline
Moderator Emeritus
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:17 pm
Posts: 4508
Website: http://www.facebook/urbanundergroundculture.com
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Just in case no one thinks this is worthwhile, or that I'm just giving my personal opinion and that no one else shares this, think again.

I've been asked to lend my particular advice by Sean Messenger, to his online coaching program, the UCP. Unfortunately I've just been too busy with school and my business lately, that I haven't had a chance to participate in that yet. Every day or two, there are emails that go out, regarding various things that Sean teaches via the online coaching though and I've read several of them when I've had the time.

Today he sent out one, in which he basically outlined exactly what I have described up above. He began the letter by saying that if you don't bother to read any other newsletter, or perform any of the other things he suggests you do, for the entire month...do this. He practically said that this is one of the most importantant thing that you can do in order to find the girls you are interested in.

Like I said, if you find the women you're interested in and will be happy with. You like them and according to Johnny Soporno, one of the most important things to a woman, is that YOU find her interesting (not attractive he clarifies, but interesting). This will make her happier with you. Now you're both happy and your relationship is better as a result. I'm not trying to put words into anyone's mouths here, but is appears to me, that all 3 of us are agreeing upon a similar premise. That's pretty powerful.

_________________
"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:52 pm 
Offline
MPUA Forum Enthusiast
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:13 am
Posts: 71
AOL: jordanmcfly
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Gee, you know what I really want in a girl?.... >ME!<


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:43 am 
Offline
Moderator Emeritus
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:16 pm
Posts: 1107
Website: http://www.thatcharmingman.com
Location: Arizona
Wow, so few responses?

This is a fantastic excersize guys, and in fact extremely similiar tosomething I put myself through that has led me away from dating 10's of girls at a time without it making me happy... on down to just having 1 who makes me 10s of times happier then all the rest together.

Also this is one of those great excersizes that not only applies to women... modify this slightly and use it to determine your optimum path for happiness in virtually all aspects of your life... It can help you align your goals, your career, your social interactions with friends...

Excellent post Rye


Top
   
 Post subject: woo
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:31 am 
Offline
New to MPUA Forum

Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:11 pm
Posts: 22
this is realy good, helps you realise what you realy want in a girl
cheers my man


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 

All times are UTC


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron

Can we be honest?

We want your email address. Let me send you the best seduction techniques ever devised... because they are really good.
close-link