wow!! very info packed with good examples,im gonna refer to this in the future,awesome post
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| Author: | Warped Mindless [ Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | An end to Mental Masturbation |
Some of you may know me, some of you newer guys probably don't but until recently I was a Seduction and Lifestyle coach. I retired as that shit gets old after a while. For the first time in a good while I took a look at the forum here and I found the same thing that I've always found. Mental Masturbation. So much pointless advice! So much pointless arguing over what works, what doesn't, and what works better. Fuck all that. Getting laid is a simple process yet the community over complicates it 100 fold. Getting laid all boils down to this: Decent Looks + Decent Fundamentals + Decent Social Skills + Decent Escalation Skills + Effort = Get Laid Thats all it is. I'll break it down quickly and keep it as simple as possible because it really is simple. 1) Decent Looks: Sorry boys but looks DO matter. Don't want to believe it? Thats fine as I don't care to waste time convincing you. Hot women have a large pool of cock to choose from. In this "pool" resides many not only cool guys, but also good looking guys. Why would a hot girl chose an ugly guy with a cool personality when she can chose a hot guy with a cool personality? Notice I said "Decent" looks and not "Good" looks. You don't have to look like Brad Pitt's brother but you do have to be what a woman considers "fuckable." This is different for every women but in general its not hard to get to the point where most women consider you decent enough to fuck you. Go to the gym, dress stylish, get a cool hair cut that compliments your face, same with the facial hair, and stand up straight. 2) Decent Fundamentals: Fundamentals include things such as: - Posture - Eye contact - Body language - Voice Tonality - Masculine Polarity (not being her little bitch) I've written about all of this before and will not be going over it again here. 3) Decent Social Skills: Learn how to hold a conversation and not be awkward around other people. You don't need to be James Bond and have charisma shooting out of your ass but you do need decent social skills. 4) Decent Escalation Skills: This is pretty self explanatory. If you want to fuck women, learn how to turn them on! I wrote a very detailed guide on escalation that can be found here: esp-model-of-escalation-vt97891.html 5) Effort: Effort includes actually getting out of the house and approaching women, and being persistent and closing once your talking to a women. The more women you talk too, and the more you actually try to close with, the more women you will fuck. Simple. Notice I say you only have to be "decent" at everything and not "perfect." This is simply because you don't need to be perfect. The above formula will make up 90% of your success or failure. Notice I didn't list a bunch of overcomplicated techniques or silly crazy advice that will only make you look weird to women? Put yourself in a woman's shoes... A cute guy walks up to you and starts a conversation. Hes not weird or awkward and you love his deep voice and strong eye contact. You can just tell that hes confident. He talks with you for a bit and you can just tell hes not a little bitch you can boss around and control (masculine polarity) and hes even making you tingle down below. The way hes looking at you, talking slowly, being very close. Its making your heart race. he continues his flirting and is bold about taking you home. Your getting very turned on. So, as a woman, a cool confident guy who can hold a conversation approached you and hes turning you on. Assuming you have good logistics and are sexually available, dont you think you might take him home? Notice I dont talk about techniques really? Once you have the above formula down, pretty much every thing can and often will work for you. Thats why arguing about techniques and if they work or not is ultimately pointless. Decent Looks + Decent Fundamentals + Decent Social Skills + Decent Escalation Skills + Effort = Get Laid Thats how you get laid. |
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| Author: | Skylar B [ Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: An end to Mental Masturbation |
wow!! very info packed with good examples,im gonna refer to this in the future,awesome post
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| Author: | smoovoperator [ Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: An end to Mental Masturbation |
Great post. The ESP escalation you posted on another thread is very informative too. To add to your point 1 about having decent look is not just about making your self attractable but also the subconscious message it sends about your confidence. If you dress well and take good care of yourself then it means you value yourself highly and treat yourself to the best things in life. That exudes confidence. What you dress does not need to be expensive or flashy. Just find the right gear combination that brings out the best qualities in you. Look fly homie 
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| Author: | FlexBrah [ Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: An end to Mental Masturbation |
Clap clap. Ima pm u bro. I got a question |
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| Author: | MrBreeze [ Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: An end to Mental Masturbation |
Quote: For the first time in a good while I took a look at the forum here and I found the same thing that I've always found. Mental Masturbation.
I remember you man, and understand what youre saying. I think it a product of the users on the board. There seems to be two types. First and predominantly AFCs... But almost beyond help AFCs. They ask stuff that should have been learned when they were in junior high. Not even 101 stuff. The other is basically one of the moderators or old school guy. Mabye 5% of the board. All of the guys that actually took to PUA are out doing better things. This polorazation, IMO, makes the board almost useless.... and mostly mental masturbation. Yet, sometimes entertaining when Im bored. |
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| Author: | Chicoman69 [ Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: An end to Mental Masturbation |
Awesome insight as usual Warped_Mindless... Thank you for posting this. 
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| Author: | Warped Mindless [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: An end to Mental Masturbation |
Thanks for the replies gentlemen. |
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| Author: | Wall1e [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: An end to Mental Masturbation |
Warped Mindless: I can imagine that it frustrates you. I agree with the post it's good but let me say this: When I was new at this forum, and didn't know much about pick-up, you think every advice/technique is good to improve your game. But it's only if you practice them in real life (effort) to see that most of it is good or bad. My point is that when you get results and get experience, you will automatically filter out the bullsh*t on this forum and find the posts that actually are worth reading. I'm just saying that for new members it might be hard to distinguish the good information/advice from the bad ones. Wallie |
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| Author: | Warped Mindless [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: An end to Mental Masturbation |
Quote: I'm just saying that for new members it might be hard to distinguish the good information/advice from the bad ones.
Not only is that true but its also one of the biggest problems with forums. Any idiot can make a thread and post a bunch of mental masturbation.... and on this forum that happens a lot.
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| Author: | GamesSN [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: An end to Mental Masturbation |
Quote: Quote: I'm just saying that for new members it might be hard to distinguish the good information/advice from the bad ones.
Not only is that true but its also one of the biggest problems with forums. Any idiot can make a thread and post a bunch of mental masturbation.... and on this forum that happens a lot.Fact is there's going to be a lot of guys who won't get it and never have the success others have. It's just like anything else in life. College, work, whatever, people always fall off but it does seem like these forums are full of AFCs giving out advice and being just plain wrong about shit. I've also noticed some of the true PUAs have basically stopped using the forums most likely because of the useless crap that's being spread and the constant "My girlfriend talked about a guy/How do I make X fall in love with me/ I want to be a playa/ I know exactly what you should be doing but i'm wrong and completely opinionated so no matter what you say i'm right and i'm gonna post all this shit regardless" threads. It goes on and on... The problem is there's just a massive amount of AFCs flooding the forums and think they know what they're talking about because they read MM one weekend. It seems the forums aren't very Pick Up-ish, more one big reach around of AFCs. |
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| Author: | Natty [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: An end to Mental Masturbation |
I get on here strictly for entertainment. Its easily some of the funniest stuff I've ever seen. |
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| Author: | Paramount21 [ Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: An end to Mental Masturbation |
Well if you think about it, that is what keeps this and many other PUA forums active, the fact that we complicate this so much. Having been through a similar issue myself, I have found that the scariest part is taking action. Going out on that night where you would much rather stay home and watch TV because it is comfortable. If what you are talking about happened (guys did the 5 things, read a few tipis, and got laid) then this forum would lack many regular members and traffic would go down. What kind of a guy that has a life to live and girls to approach is going to spend that much time on a forum anyways? Talk about decent looks? Guys will bring up height, facial features, aesthetics, and "bad genetics" before they even lift a weight or purchase some nice clothes. I have found that you can spend all day reading the best pickup advice out there but if you have no experience you will fall flat and become an incel. The lack of experience and lack of action will result in sexual frustration that will show itself in the form of blaming society and everything because a guy cannot get laid. We do it with everything which is sad. Weight loss Getting a job Reason is that it is more comfortable to sit in a chair and daydream about being 50 lbs lighter and looking like a male model as opposed to hitting the gym, counting macros, and actually taking action. Same with PUA, it is much better to ask a million questions about what women prefer rather than going out and actually taking action. I have been guilty of this myself A LOT in the past but thank god I have changed. Something else I wanna add in If you feel like your location is limiting you, move. I know that I would be on here whining if I was still in my old town but now I feel a lot better and I mean a lot better. Some towns just aren't receptive to game and even the best player in the wrong town can turn into an incel. Moving to a new place was the best thing I ever did for myself and I mean it, it literally did a 180 on my life. All of this just comes back to one thing, fear of action. |
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| Author: | gelberto [ Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: An end to Mental Masturbation |
Women and men are visual animal, if you look good, and behave properly, dress, these are no doubt bonus points. |
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| Author: | A Good Person [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: An end to Mental Masturbation |
There's no such thing as mental masturbation |
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| Author: | ChitownMaverick [ Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: An end to Mental Masturbation |
+5 Great stuff Warped. Every guy who would do well to listen to this and ignore the loads of useless crap that make up a solid 80% of this forum. Guys are wasting so much time and effort it pains me. |
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