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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Zip's Perspective Reply with quote

Hey guys. This thread should be a dream for a lot of you in here. You are going to be able to ask our one and only Zip just how she, and most likely any other female, would respond to different approaches, openers, things like that, that you guys normally present to a woman.

LOL, for some of you, this thread may be a rude awakening. For others, those that are hopefully serious about their game, this thread should help you tremendously in your growth.

And for starters, I've copied and pasted a reply Zip herself put on her "Reverse Field Report" thread. This snippet was too good for me to leave it alone, lol . . .

Not only relative to my own personal tastes, but in conjunction with consulting other women:


1.) The three most important things a man needs to do within the first 15 seconds in order to get my attention:
A. Smile- otherwise, you either come across as either skeevy, unhappy (your vital areas of focus are totally out of whack,) or way too serious. Not smiling is an unintentional and unspoken demonstration of lower value.
B. Be exciting but laid back- I know this is a contradiction, but fuck, girls are complicated. Human beings are complicated. What you say to a woman is not NEARLY as important as how you say it. Women are generally not concerned with the exact wording, or even necessarily the subject matter. This is not because women are dumb and emotional, it's because they are analyzing subtext and ulterior motives.
C. Be extraordinary- There a number of tools PUA's have in order to do this (i.e. Peacocking, opening with something other than "hi, what's your name," etc.) I will have my bitch shield up until you knock me out of routine.

DISCLAIMER: point B. is really only true for many exuberantly intellectual women during the initial minute of conversation. Then, they will shit-test you if what you're saying is retarded.

2.) Yes, an outrageous outfit will catch attention. Of course, I'll probably be making fun of you for it, but as long as you can give it back to me as fast as I make fun of you...golden. Of course, my eye automatically goes to a guy in khakis, a button down, and a blazer, because that's effective peacocking (if done well.) Collared shirts? Screw those. You might as well be wearing camouflage in a forest.

3.) Pauses in conversation are interpreted at least two ways, and most women are brilliant on picking this up on feeling alone:
A-Awkward feeling: The conversation stalls because you don't have anything exciting to say. I'm bored.
B- Feeling of Anticipation: A delayed response can be used as a tool of attraction. If you don't give me what I want right when I want it...I end up hanging on your every word. This can only been done if it's totally suave and used sparingly.

So guys . . . get yourself a woman's perspective!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you think about games(5 q, cube, palm reading) mind games(mind reading, photo memory test, chaning what they want) and magic (card trics levitation)? Personally I don't use them that much, mostly only with groups of people I already know. But I'm thinking of giving some a go in bars.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 hands wrote:
What do you think about games(5 q, cube, palm reading) mind games(mind reading, photo memory test, chaning what they want) and magic (card trics levitation)? Personally I don't use them that much, mostly only with groups of people I already know. But I'm thinking of giving some a go in bars.


Magic tricks are one of the most effective ways of disarming any males in a set. Girls freak out about this stuff. Just make sure you know what you are doing, because if you screw up levitating a beer and a girl catches you, you lose credibility. If a guy calls you out on it, prepare to lose the set unless you somehow have a fantastic comeback or already have a great rapport going.

Mind games- brilliant. Always entertaining. Personality revealing games- girls will eat this up. I always want to hear more about me. Human beings always want to hear more about themselves because no one really knows who the hell they are anyway. Even if you're pretty awful at this stuff, the amazing ability of human beings to subjectively validate which information applies to them is a constant throughout history. In ancient Greece, wars were only started by the consent of an oracle. In modern bars, drawers are dropped over the cube.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zip wrote:
In modern bars, drawers are dropped over the cube.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok zip.

So far this thread looks promising but i wana take it up a notch and make it really useful. How many of these you wana answer is up to you, yeah?

1. List everything you find attractive about james bond, i want the small things not the obvious confidence, handsom bs. Smile

2. What advice can you give a Guy living in a house of 5 other 18 year old Girls, none of which are attractive to me. Im looking for survival advice here! Smile Maybe you can tell me somthing I havent figured out yet.

3. This is a tough one, what things would a guy have to do to make you obsessed with thinking about him for the next few days. Lets see if you know you better than I know women...haha.

4. Heres a fun one! Have you ever been picked up by a PUA, if so what was his style blatant canned material or what he a natural freeverse gamer?

5. How obvious were the above?

ok now serious questions ima stop trying to pick you up. (or is this a false dissqualifier?)

6. Assuming by you being here that your cool with pick up and know it works. Whats your opinion on pick-up? Is it a bad thing or a good thing for a woman like you?

7. Whats the most important aspect of a relationship that you need to have if you were a fuck buddy with a man? What DONT I do when setting up relationships where the girls know ive got other girls (major SP for me).

8. Whats the greatest date you've ever been on?

9. Say a girl has a BF, has a job a good life but there is just one thing missing in her life; excitement. And lets say im picking up this girl and i want to find the missing bit by listening to her. What sort of things do you suggest to do to find the 'missing' part? Im trying to develop a new method based on Casanova.

10. What goes through your head when you experience LMR? What do you remember thinking? What were you telling yourself?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to answer every single one of your questions. Bring it on!


1. I will only discuss the Sean Connery interpretation of James Bond because it is the only one that counts. He is sexy because he could never exist. He is eternally transient. He is every woman's dream and nightmare for a perfect man. Watch his movements, study them. He's like a panther. Personally, I find him sexy because he has cool gadgets.

2. A guy living with five 18 year old girls...in my original state of Tennessee, that would be against the law and considered a brothel (seriously.) Hopefully they have lived together long enough for their cycles to sync-up, so they'll all be PMSing at the same time. If not, watch your ass. Also remember, it's all about hair.

3. It's a simple formula. Knock me out of routine + suspense = I will slightly obsess about you for 2-3 days.

4. I have been picked up by a PUA, but it happens only once in a blue moon. Mostly, I get poser PUA's. [link]
I always play along when I get a PUA. These guys usually use canned material, and it's still fun (even though I know what's going on.) This one guy was a "natural," and I got so excited I almost wet my pants.

5. quite. and that was totally a false disqualifier.

6. I think that pickup could save the world. Really. I'm so fucking bored most of the time with AFC's that I have to do shit to entertain myself. The fact that there is a community of men who are studying this stuff like a science brings me hope for a less boring future. I am also of the opinion that PU starts to bleed into and positively affect one's entire life...not just up the tally marks on his bed post. Ever since I've started really studying this stuff, my interactions at work have a totally different dynamic. It's amazing what it can do. I don't think anyone's even really chipped the iceberg on what PU can REALLY do.

7. Safety is key. Emotional, physical and psychological. Everyone needs to know enough about the situation to ensure physical safety (get tested, use condoms, whatever.) Of course, everyone is allowed secret corners of their souls where information is kept to themselves. Having some secrets = mysterious = sexy. Of course, "leave them better than you found them."

8. The greatest date I've ever been on is tough because I've been on a lot of really awesome dates. Horseback riding on the beach, private planes (mine btw, I took the guy out on this one), Las Vegas, random trips, etc. Maybe the greatest date I've ever been on was going to the Whitney Museum in NYC with this dude...and feeling so comfortable that we didn't HAVE to talk the entire time. That guy was smooth.

9. I'm doing a bit of research on this question before I answer it...get back to you ASAP

7. LMR is the anti-slut defense. Mystery has this one pinned on the nose. These are EXACTLY my thoughts: I want to sleep with you, but I want you to call me....so I'm going to put up a little fight so you don't think I do this all the time and am a slut and you will want to see me again and bla bla bla. Simple. Oh, or I could just be trying to remember if my bikini wax is in tip-top shape before I let you go down south.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was your bikini wax in top-top shape when the natural made you wet your pants? Cool

Ok, here's a couple . . .
What does a girl think when her and at least one other girl are "fighting" over a guy. The guy is giving both of you attention, dancing with both of you, building attraction with both of you, and you are both trying to get him to yourself.

When you find out that a guy is not looking for an exclusive relationship with you, but looking to add you as an MLTR, what goes through your mind?

And, using the same premise as above, but the guy wants you to join him and his current in a 3some, but not just a one night stand, what goes through your mind?

Note, those are two DIFFERENT questions, lol.

How would handle a guy that is exciting, passionate about life and sex, keeps the attraction going between the two of you, makes you melt when you kiss him, makes you crave his presence, and wants you to be the bread winner?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

L.A. Tripp wrote:
Was your bikini wax in top-top shape when the natural made you wet your pants? Cool

Ok, here's a couple . . .
What does a girl think when her and at least one other girl are "fighting" over a guy. The guy is giving both of you attention, dancing with both of you, building attraction with both of you, and you are both trying to get him to yourself.

When you find out that a guy is not looking for an exclusive relationship with you, but looking to add you as an MLTR, what goes through your mind?

And, using the same premise as above, but the guy wants you to join him and his current in a 3some, but not just a one night stand, what goes through your mind?

Note, those are two DIFFERENT questions, lol.

How would handle a guy that is exciting, passionate about life and sex, keeps the attraction going between the two of you, makes you melt when you kiss him, makes you crave his presence, and wants you to be the bread winner?


I'm going to email two of my girlfriends so you can get three responses. First, here's mine:

1st Question: I'm all for MLTR's. I have a several that have been going on for years. Of course, I have a rule that as long as everything safe, I don't want to hear about the other women, and I won't tell him stories about the other men. And I'm not going to lie...I have a competitive streak that makes me want take on the guy and conquer him into being exclusive with me without my having to be exclusive with him. I'm sick, I know, and I don't always act on this impulse.

2nd Question [duly noted, L.A.Tripp]: Never been a a threesome with a guy and a girl. Never taken an invitation seriously. If someone asked me to join a threesome (not just a one night stand)...I'd have to really feel comfortable enough with the girl. I really have a problem with most women because I think they're absolutely insane...so she's have to kick some serious ass. Usually, a girl is going to refuse a threesome right off the bat. I will. But I'll think about it, mull it over for a while, and probably actually consider it.

3rd Question: I'm usually the more career-oriented in most relationships and, unfortunately, usually the more dominant. Those two do not always go hand-in-hand. To answer your question, bring that guy on Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool. I look forward to your two g/f's responses as well.

BTW, you missed the 1st question.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

L.A. Tripp wrote:
Cool. I look forward to your two g/f's responses as well.

BTW, you missed the 1st question.


ooh didn't see that. I'll get right on it.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for doing this Zip, it's really helpful! Just two questions for now.

1. What are some of your favorite openers?

2. How much do you think body language during the opener ie talking over the should matters? Do you notice? What are you thinking?

Thanks in advance,
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With all of the reading that I have done, they refer to women thinking emotionally, while men think logically (reason there are so many AFCs). Based off of this, why do you think you can break this thinking and answer any of these questions in a manner that helps anyone. (Serious, non-sarcastic question)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

L.A. Tripp wrote:

Ok, here's a couple . . .
What does a girl think when her and at least one other girl are "fighting" over a guy. The guy is giving both of you attention, dancing with both of you, building attraction with both of you, and you are both trying to get him to yourself.


I get insanely competitive when this happens, and I instantly asses the situation to see how I can outmaneuver the other girl. As far as what I think about the guy? He's a guy. I don't get resentful while he's testing both of us out. A lot of girls I know will not put up with this situation and will duck out because she feels it's rude for a guy to be hitting on two girls at the same time. Some girls will place all of this resentment on the other girl (crazy girlfriend syndrome.)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice. You're a woman that keeps her word. Very good. Thanks for that perspective. That was a real life event and I wanted to see it differently.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jsmooth37076 wrote:
Thanks for doing this Zip, it's really helpful! Just two questions for now.

1. What are some of your favorite openers?

2. How much do you think body language during the opener ie talking over the should matters? Do you notice? What are you thinking?

Thanks in advance,


1. Anything that asks for a female opinion/perspective/etc. I am very opinionated, and I like talking...so this always opens me up. Also, any of the guys vs. girls questions or relationship questions. "Would you hook up with a friend" is also fun. Anything that's conversation/opinion based. When I open, I always use these unless I do one of my Southern openers (These are so specific, not everyone can use them....which is why the work so well for me.)

2. In my opinion, body language is MORE important than what you say. I've said this before, but I'm not listening to what you're saying when you're opening as much as I'm studying your body language for ulterior motives and subtext. I'm trying to dissect what you're all about.
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