I think we should think of a bunch of stuff for seducing chicks in clubs where the music is just too loud. For example magic tricks or some stuff like that or whatever... I dont know any tricks or anything that is useble...
So, anybody knows where could I learn so really good stuff on this topic?
thanx,

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Lord Steve Farell

Hmmm, I'd try to isolate early on.

If you want magic, though, you can buy a book or get a mentor. Online magic stuff isn't so good, from my experiences.

Just my opinion.

Talk louder dont lean in. I cant advise on magic I dont personally use any gimics as such.

I'd go with Scott. Speak louder but don't look like a fool who's trying to issue military drills.

Usually, when I get in and I've built some rapport, I try to put our bodies closer so I can initiate a bit of kino while talking. Put the music to your advantage.

Goodluck with that anyway.

ok. thanx a lot for the advice...

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Lord Steve Farell

Hi Farell; At least in my country (Mexico) The music in clubs is lower when they open up (like from 10:30pm - 12:00pm/1:00am).


So I try to go out to the club and arrive early and chat with the staff ,a nd the Dj, and then start with some routines with the girls that satrt arriving and I try to Hook some HB when the music is lower, but when they open the dancefloor (when they start putting like the hit of the moment, they put the music louder and to try to make all the crowd to go to the dancefloor.) I try to go to the table.

Try also to stay where the bathroom is or near to the Bar, Because there are the places where the music isn't so loud.

SO when you see a HB dancing wait until she goes to the bathroom or to the bar , to get a drink and ,go

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Oh thats a birlliant idea xfman. Now when you say I see your rigth, the music is always a bit lower near the bathroom. Your also right about the music being a little lower earlier when the club opens. Ill try that for sure. Thanks a lot.

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Lord Steve Farell

this is what i suggest. get her to an isolated place, now if the music is still kinda loud. this is what i do, i lean back or stay lean back, and if she can't hear me i tell her to lean in. you can use hand gestures and say along with it. now whydo this? cuz now you will still be dominate (telling her what to do) and she leans in onto you. hope it helps you out...

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If you are already there and the music is too loud.... it might be risky but, you might wanna try using some Kino. But nothing serious just a light touch on the shoulder..... and hey if it doesn't work... just move on to the next.

yes, i think if there is no realistic way of isolating quickly, and shouting is the only way, keep it to a minimum, and kino should be increased greatly, and discriptive gestures with your hands, has worked alot better than bursting veins in my head after the first sentence.

try to learn how to flirt and communicate with your body... keep a big smile, good EC and speak with your non-verbals. i play hard to get and hard to impress (in a funny way -> i have little grin and i hold my eye brows like joe black from "days of our lives" so that i look sceptical about them) all the time from a far, without saying any words.
i open girls normally in places where you can speak normally without saying anything.

do funny shit like the black womens "uh uh girl!". you know with your head circling around, fingers snapping. or talk to the hand type shit.

when you get attraction, take her some place where you can chat...
grab her hand and say "let's go over here" / "come with me".
build some more attraction... (i bust on them on how stupid they looked when they tried to impress me) and after that do whatever you like

pay attention to techniques and openers that you can alter to be able to do without talking. If you can do something funny without even saying anything, then you've got gold.

I like the idea of doing the bad artist routine by just sitting down next to her with a pen and paper and drawing (make it look really cheesy) as if you were the best in the world and knew it, then just hand her the picture with a clever title on it. If she laughs then you're in!

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I love the "Fabulous" opener for really loud clubs. It's also how I would have opened the deaf girl - had I known she was deaf - Shaft opened in our most recent sarging trip (or was it the one before that?) Walk up to her, and give her a quick up and down. Look like you do NOT like what you see. Shake your head a bit. Then start adjusting her clothing and her hair. If she asks you what you're doing, you can lean in and say "You're cute enough, but I can make you FABULOUS!" and kino away.

Monkey... I saw that move somewhere on TV but when the guy tried to touch her tanktop, she slaped him...Risky move!

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Whisper in her ears. Speak whispering in her ears. This works 100%. A bonus tip in this situation is to smack some cologne on the back of your ear so that when they whisperback in your ear they can smell your cologne, don't put too much on the back of your ear because women got sensitive noses.