Alright, first off, i work in @ a 24Hr Fitness and ive decided to pursue this one woman that comes to the gym.

I think im a fairly good looking man, well built 5'9 175lbs @ 10% bf. Im 20 and shes 22 (like older women). I dont approach women AT ALL (im faily shy).

So anyways, i work at the front desk and i see her about once every week or two and i usually chop it up with her at the front desk for about 3-5minutes.

SUMMARY:

I decided that i would have to approach her if i wanted her to notice me at all (i have never approached a woman that i have had intentions of asking out, before). So i walk upstairs and pretend like im working and shes working out on the incline bench doing db presses. Shes listening to her iPod so i walk up and start yapping and she takes out her headphones and i tell her that i dont usually see women doing the Incline DB Press and that it was impressive and what not.

Anyways, i chop it up with her for about 20minutes asking her stuff like : where do you ... work, live, go to school, major, what type of body you want... all that type of stuff and everything i asked she had no problem giving me the answer.

I decide to wrap it up by saying that i have to get back to work and i formally introduce myself as i leave her and then i make my way around the gym socializing with all the gym members just to make it seem like i didnt come up JUST to see her.

Later on, she comes down stairs and asks me a few questions (one was about this cow i had in my hand... and the other was if i was half white / japanese). So we talked for another 5-10 minutes or so and then she left...

I was wondering if this is something that i can follow up with and ask her for her number the next time she comes in, or is this just her being polite and what not?

Any suggestions appreciated.

-fuzz

The CUBE routine works best because you can tell her things about herself and then finish off by saying... "you're a very interesting I would like to tell you more take my number down on your cell..." give her the number and then pull your cell out and say what's a good number to get a hold of you?

Unless she told you she likes a certain place around the neighborhood a restaurant or club or something... ask questions about that place... and say you've been wanting to go there and check it out... and have her invite you...

Unless she is a non-drinker you should mention a new club or bar that you want to experience. Coffee dates are for AFCs and restaurants are for Day 4 or 3s. Alcohol is essential for getting her to slightly drop inhibitions and be more open and talkative. Good inner game and alcohol makes for an unstoppable force...

To be honest, i dont really want to meet a women in a bar.

#1 i dont drink (maybe 2-3x a year)
#2 doesnt help my body building lifestyle much
#3 i dont want alcohol to be the only reason why shell loosen up.

any other suggestions?

-fuzz

In my opinion, day game is far easier than night game. Fuzz, you will have the advantage if you only like day game or rather, non-club game.

You DO NOT need alcohol or a club to sarge. You just need a female at any given location. I just went up and talked to the saleswomen at Champs yesterday. The setting does not matter. Just be interesting.

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Im having a hard time knowing if i should find out MORE of her interests in person at the gym or should i talk to her, try and # close and then ask for more of her interests later on as i try and get to know her more.

Thats why i said bowling is always chill. If they suck, you can try and correct their form and i could use this as kino and i dont think its to personal nor impersonal for a first date.

I dont have a problem talking with women. Its just this one has a sort of rep as being FIRE. Shes mature, hott, funny, smart... everything that want in woman. But when its a hit or miss... you either get it, or you dont, gets kinda nerve racking (wont stop me though, im just trying to get everything sorted out first).

-fuzz

Apollo, Fuzz you are both right in your own ways.

I never said that you need alcohol to get them to loosen up, that puts weight on using props and what not to be successful. All I was saying is that I prefer to use a small bar for my venue when I am ensueing a Day2 and building comfort. I don't get them drunk, nor do I get drunk, I just feel that a little alc. content helps me get on the same mental level with the lucky girl who has gone that far with me. From the bar it usually goes to my house for a movie and so on and on...

Just my opinion, and everybody knows what opinions are like...

Fuzz as far as games or activities to interact with this girl in, it is almost a must. Go to CLOSERS/DAY2s and see my post called VIDEOGAME INTERACTION

Yes sir, ill check it and post any questions i have here.

-fuzz

Well im trying to get her OUT of the gym.

I know shes loves to be active (apparent by her lifestyle).

Im guessing i should bring up what she likes to do during her free time in the next conversation with her.

Another obstacle... i believe she has a boy friend of around 2 years and is currently living with him in a condo that they just moved into.

I guess imma have to test if that relationship is going as well as he hopes.

-fuzz

**UPDATE**

My home girl who works @ the gym tells me that the HB9 that ive been talking about just came in to the gym (10:30pm). So im dressed like a slob. Crappy T-Shirt, regular shorts, slippers and ive got my glasses on. I drive over there and decide imma try and get her number right now cause i aint about to wait another week.

So i go upstairs, see someone i know, talk to him before i talk to her and then approach her. I say hi and everything and ask her what shes doing her on a friday night.

Long story short, im shadowing her throughout her workout talking with her. She wants me to help her do abs. So... she has me stand over her head, she grabs my ankles and she lifts her legs and i push down on them. We do this for awhile and im still talking to her. She asking me questions now BLAH BLAH BLAH.

She said that shes done and i ask her if its alright if i walk with her to her car, she says yes. Were almost to her car and i ask "mary, i was wondering if i can have your number" and she goes "ohhhhh", and i reply "i HAVE to ask" and she starts telling me how she has a boyfriend and that she shes thinking that he wouldnt like it if she gave me her number. She asks "im surprised you dont have a gf because youre a good looking guy". I told her that i just got out of a 3 year and what not. So after awhile of saying, we can just be friends and everything, i ask again "so can i have your number?" she says "im sorry, i just cant, no hard feelings". I just shrug it off and say "its ok" and say that imma go back into the gym for a little bit.

I go back into the gym and talk with my home girl for a good 5-10 minutes when i notice that the HB9 hasnt driven away yet. So i decide to talk to her again, i walk out, shes sitting there with her car on while she SEEMS to be on the phone. I walk up to her window, tap on it, she smiles and rolls it down and i say "you REALLY need to wash your car" she gives me an even bigger smile with the middle finger. I then reply "you know what, imma give you my number and if you ever want to hang out, dont hesitate to call me". She thinks for a little bit and then says ok, but instead of taking my number, she gives me this excuse and then tells me shell give me hers. I then ask "well, what was with all that stuff earlier" and she replies "i was trying to justify not giving you my number". So i get her number and im about to just walk away and she tells me to call her phone and so i do. And she drives off...

HOW SHOULD I FOLLOW THIS UP!?!?!?!

By the way, today was the first day ive tried # closes EVER. I got a HB8's and this womans as well. BOTH with bf's...

-fuzz

Bump

-fuzz

She gave you her number, the hook is in her mouth. I would definitely use those digits and test the waters with the routine we discussed on your other thread. I mean, sure I believe that she may have used the bf thing as a shield, and all you have to do is be persistent enough to work her up to dropping that shield. Be sure to pass the 7 hour test with her. Let me know what else you may have concerns about...

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Did a search for this "7 Hour Test", but nothing came up. Is there a link or something i could look at?

-fuzz

Umm, I'll tell you what it is, but I would advise you to read "The Game" and "Mystery Method". Mystery is the one who coined the term and it makes sense.

The 7 hour test is a little thing that women do to weed out the guys who are fake and only looking for a quik piece of ass. Essentially, it states that if you give a women 7 hours of your time and attention she will think that you are going to stick around and she will then be more apt to give up the goodies that she covets so dearly.(Tits and Ass) So apparently it doesn't matter if you give her all 7 hours at one time, or if you give her just an hour a day, she believes that after 7 hours you have proven that you are a long term suitor...

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