NIGHT GAME 31/05/2015
Went out with a few wings last night - SAG, BT, LJ and another guy I haven't mentioned yet, SRG. SRG and LJ kinda formed a separate group since they weren't technically speaking 'with' the other two guys, they just sort of mingled together occasionally. I spent most of the time with SAG and BT but was flicking around between groups a lot especially since LJ was looking around for me a lot. I should probably spend less time with BT since he is more alpha and this lowers my own status or whatever but I guess it is because I'm trying to learn from him.
On the whole I'm kinda dissapointed with myself that I've pussied out of doing any solo daygame or nightgame recently but then this shit always happens to me when I'm trying to get other elements of my life sorted out. It would be nice though if I could just get everything together in my daily routine:
- professional (work)
- intellectual (reading books, etc.)
- physical (i.e. gym/sports)
- domestic (cooking/chores)
- seduction (day game AND night game)
If I was doing those five things EVERY DAY I would be over the moon. But at the moment I'm just sort of doing everything in dribs and drabs and this just seems to be my life lately. Just getting out of bed is a big fat chore sometimes. It's like I'm crawling half-heartedly through life at the moment rather than standing up and walking like a man.
Anyway I did a lot of approaches and some dance floor routine but it wasn't as solid tonight because nobody else in the group was dancing. When I'm surrounded with dancing I find it a lot easier to draw girls into my own set.
At the end of the night, me and SAG grabbed some chips and he gave me some pointers:
- if I say something that evokes a negative reaction I need to find a way to turn that around. Often you can get away with saying weird shit as long as you know what to say afterwards.
- it will help me to be more spontaneous if I read more material - don't treat it as canned material, though. Just read a lot of material - books, tv, OR pick-up material - and this will turn my psychology around making the verbal part of interaction more natural.
- dance floor routine is ok when I find a way to get into the groove. I just need to find a way to absorb girls into my reality more, e.g. I am dancing and I see girls walk past so give a hand out and pull them in rather than doing the opposite, which is dancing my way into sets.
That said, some of it went ok: I twisted around in front of a short girl in a black dress and the most adorable braces. I think I nearly gave her a heart attack. Then I used my opening line which was shit,
"I like the dress very purposeful"
She doesn't hear it - good. Then she does something weird which is, she turns to the side to give me her ear. So I capitalise on this rather than repeating my opening line,
"What's that?"
I ask her, mocking her gesture and then mimicking her.
"How are we going to have a conversation like that, bending over to one side?"
I ask her.
"I just ... I was just trying to hear you!"
She laughs.
I ask her what her name is. To be honest, I can't remember what her name is, but I go to 'shake her hand' then get her twirl around. Before she knows it, I am pulling her in close and then I suddenly bend down and sweep her off her feet. She shrieks out of panic and then starts laughing when she realises I have control. I spin around with her two or three times, hyped up on the thrill of doing this to a stranger and then slow down and put her down gently when I realise the bouncer has his eye on me. He is probably just worried there will be an accident.
I can't tell you how long I've been waiting to do that and how much I loved doing it. Even though it was a little awkward initially, it felt great and she loved it. I just wanted to carry her straight out of the club, take her home and fuck her brains out. Huge adrenaline rush.
After I put her down, I am thinking of pulling away when she suddenly asks,
"Wait, what's YOUR name?"
I tell her my name but then start to withdraw, holding her hand somewhat lingeringly before I pull away and walk over to SAG.
"Wait, go back...why did you pull away?"
He asks.
"I don't know. Just freaked out, I guess."
I reply.
I see her later that night, when BT is chatting her up and her friend and I have my attention fixed on the boxing on the live screen. I feel a pang of jealousy when I see BT pull them both in close. And he keeps them talking for a good 5 - 10 minutes. Then he either tries to introduce me to the set, or the girl in the black dress spots me and says something to me.
"Huh?"
I reply. Her friend says something about a tattoo. I'm not sure if she is talking about the girl in the black dress or her own tattoo but I do something a little weird / creepy which is to turn the girl around in the black dress and move the strings from her dress around a bit so I can inspect the tattoo a little closer.
Creepy, I know.
Don't even know why I do this shit sometimes. But I am overcome with an animalistic lust to fuck her and that's basically the only thing on my mind right now. I am stone cold sober but I've been in the club for abut four hours and it FEELS like I'm drunk. BT and SAG insisted no alcohol under any exceptions tonight, so I've been making frequent trips to the bar for tap water just because it doesn't feel natural not to drink anything whatsoever. I'm doing my best to maintain composure and stand up straight, it's like I can't walk into a club without immediately starting to feel drunk and intoxicated.
"Don't I know you?"
The girl in black asks me.
"Oh, uh...I don't know. Maybe."
I reply.
"Yeah, I'm pretty sure I recognise you."
She asserts.
"Yeah, you probably do."
I reply.
"Didn't you pick me up?"
She asks as if this has only just occurred to her. I pretend to look surprised.
"...Oh yeah! Yeah, that was you!"
I reply.
"Oh yeah"
She mimics me, sarcastically rolling her eyes.
"You're an arsehole."
She says, then she turns around to continue talking with BT and her friend. I turn my attention back to the boxing. Yeah, I fucked that one up. BT asks me what the hell I said to her later, and I'm not even sure what to tell him.
I remember a shit load of interactions turn stale that night, I don't even know what I'm saying to turn these girls off. I think I'm just trying to be unfiltered but that means a lot of weird and, sometimes negative or downright insulting shit comes to mind. Then I try to turn this around by being playful and animated: some girls absolutely adore this but to others I just look like a boyish clown. Other times, I am trying to be dominant and assertive but this doesn't work either. For example:
* SAG has pointed out that I should stop leaning over to talk to girls.
* I'm 6 foot, so not humongous but taller than the majority of women. A lot of the girls in night clubs are at least a head shorter.
* SAG suggests that I pull them in closer if I can't hear them.
* I try to do this with authority but they often respond negatively and it just isn't congruent with my natural personality. Even when they let me do it, they are still a lot shorter than me and it's hard for them to hear me speak, even in the smoking area.
Before I spoke to the girl in the black dress a second time we moved to a different bar temporarily before shifting back. In this other bar, BT and SAG spot a girl in green dress and tell me to approach - that guy she's with isn't her boyfriend, BT assures me. I'm fed up of being ordered to approach but I haven't done it for a while so I comply although I can't find this girl they're talking about. I find a few girls in stripy tops over on the dance floor instead and just shout
"Whooh"
The girl I direct this towards ignores me but then I turn to her friend and she starts grinding on my leg. I'm not sure what to do in this situation so just kind of dance for a bit until the awkwardness gets to me and I walk off. I remember BT and SAG asking me later that night why the fuck I'm always walking off half way through a set. Not really sure how to respond.
I come back to BT / SAG and I see the girl in the green they were talking about. She is HOT. AS. FUCK. and I notice a LOT of guys are going and speaking to her. She is getting with any of them but she is enjoying the attention and giving them all entertainment. I figure I might as well give it a shot since my wingmen think she is worth it. I can't really remember how I went about it, but I was at a low point psychologically, since I just didn't feel my game was up to much that night.
I kind of just sat on the opposite side of the table and gave her a curious glance, hoping that magic line would just come to me. She shoots me a curious glance back as if to communicate,
"Ok, I will play your game a little but I am expecting more of an effort than THAT."
She looks like she is about to suddenly lose interest so I shoot around the table and stand next to her. I can't remember what I say. Some random shit that comes to mind. It feels like she is putting a lot of pressure on me, so I ask her what her name is then I try to spin her around. She spins around but kind of clumsily because she is in high heels so I can't pull her in. I feel like I'm fucking this set up, so I walk away and then I see BT and he insists that she is interested and that I must go back. I look around and sure enough she is looking at me, playing with her hair. She seems to be hoping that I will go back over. SAG later tells me that she was waving at me when my back was turned. But I just don't feel able to go back over. BT says,
"Say anything, tell her that you're a millionaire."
He's suggested this line a lot, so I figure I might as well give it a shot.
I walk over and try to stand with a bit more poise and assertivness this time.
"Did I tell you I'm a millionaire?"
I tell her, projecting my voice with a fake almost salesman like beam. I am hoping she will see the funny side.
"No, why are you telling me this?"
She asks.
"Uh...."
Why AM I telling her this?
"Because, uh...girls like ... millionaires?"
Then she give me the most hurt puppy dog eyes I think I'd seen the whole night.
"I'm NOT a gold digger."
She says, pain struck, and I can't tell if she's fucking me or if I've really just shot an arrow through her heart.
"Oh, uh ... right."
I say, trying to maintain composure and it is one of those weird situations where I'm simultaneously trying to keep a smirk off my face while wondering if she's seriously taken what I've just said personally or not.
"I have enough cash flow in my name that I don't NEED to be a gold digger. And anyway, the only thing I'm looking for in a guy is much deeper than that."
She is launching the offensive. Part of me wants to tell her that the stupid "I'm a millionaire" line wasn't even my idea and part of me just wants to shirk off.
"Of course,"
I tell her.
"I never thought that you would be a gold digger."
But this has no effect.
"But you must have done, otherwise you would never have used such a line."
Seriously, this girl HAS to be fucking with me, right now. I remember just standing there looking at her kind of awkwardly staring at each other. Every time something comes to mind to say, I know that she will just misinterpret it, either deliberately or by accident. Eventually I just kind of awkwardly shirk off, feeling totally confused by this mysterious exotic and highly intelligent beauty that is seemingly more oblivious and naive about life than I am. Or maybe she is the one that's getting something that I'm not. I am just wondering if I should go and hit my head against a brick wall.
"No go back over, go back over,"
BT tells me as I walk back over to them.
"Well, what the fuck do you want me to do?"
I ask him. We are walking out of the bar to go back to the original bar and BT is insisting that I should go back over to her. I don't know what I would even say or do. If I went back over it would just be to kind of awkwardly stand there, looking at her. I don't think BT seems to realise this.
"Ok, ok, fuck the girl in green. Go and approach THAT girl."
SAG suggests. I'm kind of relieved.
"The girl in green was dissapointed in you for not going back over."
BT tells me later. And in my mind, I'm just thinking,
What the fuck was I supposed to do? WHAT THE FUCK WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO!?
In any case I go over to a different girl and try to spin her and sweep her off her feet again. I do so but she panics so it's kind of awkward and I just miss hitting her head off the table. She laughs and we talk some random shit for a little bit and she is with her friend so BT and SAG come over to wing. I am starting to withdraw and give up on the interaction again, so BT insists I should keep trying. I try to make some light kino but she is freaking out that I will try to pick her up again. So I try talking at a distance but she is shorter than me and can't hear what I'm saying.
"Pull her in close."
BT keeps telling me, not realising that she's not about to let me. This situation is awkward and I just want to eject again.
We go back over to the original bar, and I see a woman in a white and black top. My line is
"Do I need an excuse to talk to you?"
She says,
"Maybe."
Or some shit. I try talking to her but the music is loud and she seems more interested in her phone, so I try playfully suggesting she put her phone away. She gets irritated so I eject. Then to my surprise she comes back over, and asks me what I wanted, but at this point I am the one feeling annoyed and I don't feel like talking random shit until she gets bored and leaves. So before I know what I'm saying I just turn around and tell her,
"Well, I was trying to get your attention but you seemed more interested in your phone than me."
"Oh, right."
She says and walks off.
Yeah, I know. I could have made more of an effort since she came back over but I just get to a point in the night where my ego has been scratched and bruised so frequently it just turns into an ugly mess.
"What did you say!"
BT looks shocked, and I am shirking awkwardly because I myself am not sure why I said it.
"I don't know ... I just told her that she seemed more interested in her phone than me. I don't know why I said it, I just said it."
"Oh."
He said and for once, he actually looked a little sympathetic. For better or worse, I can't tell. I hate it when people feel sorry for me - it's different when they actually RELATE to what you are feeling, though.
At a later point I am with LJ and LJ points out a set he is about to approach that includes the girl in the green dress I was talking to earlier. I immediately feel awkward and want to shirk out as he approaches her friend. I am trying to walk past, avoiding eye contact when the girl in the green dress recognises me,
"Oh it's you,"
She says, almost gleefully and she remembers my name. I feel a little easier and try to chew the fat for a bit:
"Hey how's it going?"
I ask.
"Not bad, blah blah blah."
She replies. And to start with it seems like she is going to cut me some slack when all of a sudden it feels like she is 'testing' me again.
"So explain to me about that millionaire thing."
She asks. And it feels like my guts are reeling because I am going to have to 'explain' why I used a shit line. She HAS to be trolling / fucking with me.
"You know,"
I say, trying to turn it into a light interaction.
"I'm not ACTUALLY a millionaire, I just said that because ..."
"You were trying to test me?"
And her face lights up for a second.
I am about to say,
"Yes - yes! It was just a test."
But my gut instinct tells me this is a trap she has set up for me to fall into.
"No...uh...I was just saying it because, uh..."
And I remember she is just LOOKING at me.
"Uh...well I just thought it would be a way to keep the convo going that's all."
"Well then. It WAS a test. YOU just wanted to see if I was a gold digger, that's all."
She asserts. And I remember just looking at her at this point, wondering if she really, SERIOUSLY believes this crap or she is doing some weird kind of shit test, trolling me or all three of those things.
"No."
I say.
"No. It wasn't like that..."
"Really?"
She asks.
"Then what was it?"
And I am laughing, not because it is funny but because it is ACTUALLY painful.
"You said you were a millionaire, and that all girls really want is to be with a rich man, and you said this to me because I looked like a gold digger to you."
Twisting my words horrifically.
"Look."
I told her.
"No...No. No, that's not fair. That's not what I said at all. The only reason I said it ... all I was trying to do was bring a positive vibe to the interaction, say something a little different, a little interesting. That's all."
And my voice turns low and almost angry, even though anger is the last thing I feel towards her - how could I feel angry towards her? She just seems so naive and innocent. She says she is very wealthy, perhaps she has lived quite a sheltered life, I don't know... The gents next to me turn around as I am saying this and it feels like they are watching me, so I try to break away from this tone.
"That's all."
I squeak, as if trying to distort the conversation dynamic into something more light-hearted and less confrontational by resorting to this boyish, high-pitched, high-energy tone which some girls seem to like.
Talking to that girl in the green dress it was like she was testing my authenticity, piercing my soul with all that eye-fucking. I literally had a hard time looking at her face and standing up straight. I either wanted to shrivel up or walk away but then she would make me feel 'guilty' for not making an 'effort' - that's what BT had told me earlier after all: "she is disappointed that you did not return". I tried to tell her how awkward she was making me feel, but wasn't really sure how to phrase it.
"It seems like you're...I don't know why you're doing this...you're making me feel..."
But the truth is I don't know what it is she's doing. I sigh out of frustration because it is like talking to a brick wall or something. Or maybe I'm the brick wall and she is trying to break me down. I just don't know anymore. Women confuse me too much. She says I've 'hurt her feelings' and that she isn't interested in me anymore or something.
I think the pain of rejection must have swept across my face then and there because she looked guilty for just a split second. So I overplay this emotion. I tell her that she is right, looking away from her. I'm ashamed of myself and I will never talk to a woman again.
"Well THAT PART was bullshit,"
She laughs.
"The part about you never speaking to another woman anyway."
It's like she knows my entire trick book back to front. Either that, or I'm just giving her WAY too much credit. I tell her I'm leaving. I mean to be purposeful about this, but it just sounds like I'm emotionally blackmailing her trying to make her feel sorry for me. On a deeper level, I guess this maybe the case, but consciously at least, I actually DO want to leave. I AM fed up of having my head fucked around with, and this woman is the biggest head fucker I've spoken to all night.
"Ok, bye."
She says. She doesn't feel sorry for me, but that's fine. I don't want her to. I just want to go somewhere else because I don't even know what the fucking point was in me talking to her a THIRD time. I wish I'd just ignored my wingmen and avoided this crazy girl.
I tell BT about this later:
"I saw that girl in green dress earlier. I don't know what it is about her...what she was trying to do..."
"Are you in love?"
He asks me.
"No!"
I cry, not because I'm ashamed of such a thing but because I do not feel love after five minutes talking to a crazy girl. But crazy hot girl.
"Yeah, you are. You're in love."
He says and he turns around to the woman sat next to me. She is like 30 years older than me.
"He's in love."
He says.
"What? Who's he in love with? Me? Or her?"
She asks, pointing to her friend.
"...Her."
Says BT.
"No, no. I'm in looove with yoooou."
I insist.
"Oh, well...I'm too old for you."
She says. She is a little old, actually.
"That's ok. The more experienced the better."
I reel off this old, corny and overused line. I can't remember what we're talking about for the next five minutes with BT in the set who I kind of lean on for support when it comes to conversation. But then she suddenly tells me she's married.
"No you're not you're lying."
I just say this now every time a girl tells me she's got a boyfriend or whatever.
"No I'm not! Here's the ring."
She shows me a ring.
"Well, that's not even a real ring."
I say. I'm not even that interested in getting with her, I just like the games. I touch her ring and slide it up her finger a bit but I'm not cheeky enough to take it off.
"See, it's just plastic."
I tell her. I can't remember what she says next but we both know I'm just blagging and bullshitting my way through every social interaction. After I eject I make a few more approaches but on the whole, I do not feel like tonight was a very successful night. It feels like I'm weirding and creeping girls out when I'm speaking to them. And yeah, rejection does hurt. Still. I've realised something about myself: I've never really gotten over the pain of rejection. I've just learned fake coping mechanisms to deal with it, like clowning around, pretending it doesn't matter when I get rejected. Or if I go into a set and don't really make a proper effort to engage the woman, then it is not really me she is rejecting, just a cariacature of my own personality. And that is part of the reason, I'm seriously contemplating giving up on pick-up: because all I am doing is spreading my integrity and personal character so thin, it is like butter.
I've lost a lot of self-respect doing all of these cold approaches and it's all because I watch videos like simple pick-up on the internet. When I am not goofing around and acting like a spasticated idiot, I'm either trying shit lines and canned material or trying to be 'direct' like schawzenneger. None of it is real. None of it is authentic. I am not being myself when I speak to a woman. But I don't even know how to be myself. People just make it seem so simple but to me it is anything but. All I am doing is fucking up and making myself more miserable.
BT texted me today to see if I am up for day game tomorrow. I was about to text him that I was gonna quit on pick-up but right now, I just want to complete my goal and make it to page ten of this journal. At least then, I can say I've given it a good shot. But then am I REALLY giving it a good shot when all I want to do is make XYZ approaches half-heartedly and then make out like I 'tried'. I just don't know anymore. If I could be this magical authentic, true-self that pick-up literature seems to glorify and mystify I would be it. But it just feels like I'm not able to. Maybe I am too ashamed of myself and the person I have been for a lot of my life. Maybe the pain of facing up to the person that I actually am and the feelings and emotions that I have rationalised, if not plainly ignored for years and years is too painful for me to do. It doesn't feel like I'm truly a man. It just feels like I'm a misogynistic Elliot Roger-esque creep who thinks the world owes him pussy. I look in the mirror, and I just see a boy who has repeatedly sacrificed his integrity and spent most of his life so far running away from the truth of who he really is. Why would any woman want to be with me?
I know BT will try to talk me out of giving up but we both know I'm not cut out for this PUA shit. I am not man enough to handle rejection and I am not smart enough or human enough to make simple, ordinary conversation like an ordinary, genuine and authentic human would make it. My problem is that every interaction has to be this smart, wonderful and witty repartee, for it to be good enough. I am just too big headed and I am not intelligent enough to live up to my own standards. Maybe if I could just lose my own ego...
SELF-ANALYSIS
Be more filtered and cut out weird shit from conversation.
Avoid the creep vibe.
Be more genuine / authentic.
If I say something that evokes a negative reaction I need to find a way to turn that around. Often you can get away with saying weird shit as long as you know what to say
It will help me to be more spontaneous if I read more material - don't treat it as canned material, though. Just read a lot of material - books, tv, OR pick-up material - and this will turn my psychology around making the verbal part of interaction more natural.
Dance floor routine is ok when I find a way to get into the groove. I just need to find a way to absorb girls into my reality more, e.g. I am dancing and I see girls walk past so give a hand out and pull them in rather than doing the opposite, which is dancing my way into sets.
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