Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:39 am Post subject: To Peacock or Not to Peacock?
Hey guys,
Got a quick question for all of you out there. I have read up on the concept of peacocking. I know what it's about...and I know how important it is to stand out, BUT here's the thing. When I read about the attire Style describes in the book, I think to myself, "Damn, that's not me...those outfits could NEVER be me." So I guess my question is a multiple part deal, and it would be as follows:
-Is peacocking even necessary?
-If I am the kind of guy who is comfortable in faded jeans, beat-up sneakers, a Smashing Pumpkins T-shirt, and a worn out baseball cap, shouldn't that comfort matter more than peacocking? Put me on familiar turf and I am more likely to be outgoing, sociable, funny, etc.
-Have any of you done any sarging where, on some nights, you are peacocked and on others you are not? If so, do you notice a distinct difference between which nights yielded you more number/kiss/F-closes?
I mean, the main part of being a PUA is confidence. Even if my outfit doesn't make me stand out a la peacocking, the self-esteem I present should more than make up for the attention my outfit DIDN'T get...does anyone see what I mean?
Like I said, I am new to all of this, so please...be gentle.
you're right the confidence is alot more important than if your dressed up.
Peacocking is not essential. its just another gambit used to get HB's interested an innitiate conversation which is where its all at.
I normally head out 3 times a week, sometimes im peacocked other tims im not. when i am peacocked now because its not al the time people do notice, an it does get attention.
bearing in mind peacking can be an interestin necklace, a few bracelets, or a ring fake tattoo, really tattooo. etc. it dosnt have to be a full length fur coat glittery witches hat etc. can be a few small things, i think in the book some1 use's a flashing penguin badge, so it dosnt have to be like full fancy dress.
even a little black nail varnish.
i always hav a beaded necklace on show with a roman rune, carved on the pendant, it protects me from people that harm me. and this never leaves my side people comemtn it all the time, but its not a big thing so get small things if you dnt want big things, jus make sure they do grab attention or can lend to the conversation if commented on.
hope that helps mate
-peace-
In all honesty, I do NOT suggest [peacocking] for the newbie PUA, especially if you're still at the stage where approaching and initiating conversation is still a sticking point. Then you're fighting with approach anxiety, blanking out, AND being shit tested by guys and girls. You don't know where you're going right or wrong because you're struggling with multiple difficulties. Rather, if you want to peacock, I suggest a slow, incremental upgrade of your wardrobe so that you slowly become accustomed to the clothes and gear that you're wearing, while at the same time improving your approach and conversational abilities.
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:32 am Post subject:
hum....man, you are right about that if you dressed up that isnt you...and its important to be your self and confidence, but do you remember in the book theres a part says "if you dont change then you will still be the same.."(something like that, I think is by mystery)...well, its just my view though....good luck
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Maybe so but I feel that changing internally first is the step I have to take BEFORE I could ever consider peacocking. The only stuff I have right now that comes close to peacocking are t-shirts of rock bands I like that no one around here has heard of, but these very rarely get conversations going if ever. Aside from that I have a t-shirt that shows two stick figures: one is on their knees raising their hands defensively over their head, the other is wearing what appears to be a police uniform and wielding a billy club. The police-looking stick figure is clearly in the process of beating the kneeling figure. A caption on the shirt reads "Civil disobedience is still disobedience." I wore this shirt to the Live Earth concert on July 7, and it got quite a few conversations going. And believe it or not, it wasn't by people who wanted to kick my ass for wearing something like that!
1. to stand out. Whatever most guys do, do the opposite.
2. to get a conversation going.
I've been out in the last couple of days looking for shit to wear, and you're right, there are things you KNOW that would accomplish the above 2 things, but they're not you. Here's what i would suggest....
Go shopping, and just keep looking for something you like that you know is 'out there'. See, most of the time, an AFC (myself included) will see something outlandish in one of 2 ways. Either he'll say 'that's freakin ridiculous looking', or he'll say 'that's totally unique, i like it, but it's not really in fashion and i might look silly'. The key, i think, is to get rid of that filter on the second one. If you like it, who gives a shit if it's in fashion or not? The point is to wear something unique that you like, not to wear freaky shit that will make you feel like you look like a freakshow attraction.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:56 pm Post subject:
I read all this... you guys are all saying the same thing, so I'm not going to repeat too much of it.
First of all, you're comfortable in your faded jeans and smashing pumpkins shirt. That's great. How's that going for you? Lots of girls? Didn't think so.
Secondly, peacocking is more than just attention getting. It's a confidence thing. You gotta have mean confidence to walk into a bar full of semi-drunken alpha males wearing a bright pink cowboy hat.
If you don't have the confidence to be different, you won't have the confidence to pick up girls.
My question to you - have you tried it yet? If not, why the hell not? The worst that could happen is that you feel like a fool for the entire night.
Go through a few malls. Find something you think is freaking awesome that you know you would never wear in public. Buy it and wear it. And DOMINATE IT. Make it your Hat of Confidence +10 - when you put that thing on you cease being an AFC and start being a PUG. Yes, that's right, you're a PUG when you're wearing your peacock wear.
Peacocking like u all have said is good for this that and other, and bad if u cant back it up.
But what i notice about peacocking that can be very important for your game, is that:
1. Its an excellent way of locking your target in when ure in the A1-3 stages. Incase u accidently let her get borred or when u need to leave the set to find ure wing/go to toilet. U leave ure peacock item with her so shes not so tempted to leave. Of course this wont work if u have no game on her.
2. Its an AWSOME idicator to tell u when ure DHV's are becoming weak or ure convosation/energy level is dying down. This is strait from the Mystery Method book: He states that sometime especially for newbies ure concentrating so much on ure canned goods and ure delivery that u forget to keep ure energy high or ure tonality this or that.
Ure peacock clothing will get her to say somthing like 'ohh i like ure hat' basically meaning - im borred entertain me with somthing shiny and exciting. A good example of this is in this video:
I just went over what I wrote below, and it will do everyone some good to read it. all.
I think that mystery wore what suited him. Everyone is different.
You need to have shit on that suits YOU and also is interesting to a girl. Sounds gay (but fuck if I care) but I have a shelf FULL of bracelets(leather), necklaces (leather with some pendant or whatever, no shitty gold chain), watches (nice watches, different watches) and a couple bad ass rings(huge bitches with something fly on it) that I put together before I go out. I like each and every piece I own and I DIDNT buy it thinking that I needed it. I think it looks cool, and I know no one else is wearing what I am cause I dont buy my shit from abercrombie and fitch. It took a little bit to have such a collection, but man I will be damned if almost every fucking time I talk to some girl she will grab and snatch my shit. And yes, sometimes it doesnt even take anything but my hand on the bar for some tipsy female to grab my hand and drool over how cool my ring is. This is what this peacocking shit is about.
I bought an LED Binary watch off the internet. Gayest fucking thing ever. But it LOOKS cool - its stylin with its black leather strap and brushed metal face. Looks like a very fashionable watch. You can be sure when I get asked the time I shove it in their face. It instantly becomes the convo center and I sit her down and explain to her how it works. This opens the doors for countless negs about all sorts of shit.
Or my wooden religious bracelet with the holy family on it. That was stolen last month and promised back to me when I took her out.
my black leather necklace with a pewter turtle with a scuba flag across his shell? yea I scuba dive. awesome.
do you get the idea? I dont care what anyone says, but I will tell you straight up that women love shit. so wear some.
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: To Peacock or Not to Peacock?
Desire2Fclose wrote:
Hey guys,
-Is peacocking even necessary?
It's not neccessary. but I'll tell you why I've recently started trying it. It's because I've always been really shy. I hate to be the center of attention and that's been my downfall. so, Peacocking is helping me to be comfortable being looked at. there's a post online somewhere(on one fo the pua sites) that talks about 'dont be afraid to be seen' or something like that, if I find it I'll edit this comment.
