Brief History: I'm 18 and at first year uni or 'college' as you call it. Started 'game' in January, a fairly typical story. Began by using Mystery Method then progressed to some natural game. I was happy with the 'social' gains I was getting a lot more attention plus many (IOIs) and generally being able to 'entertain and engage women. After a few friend zones implicitly and explicitly and failures to achieve anything with girls who were obviously interested both from cold approaches and outer circle stuff.

I realised my problem was ESCALATION I had gained success in being an entertainer/interesting guy but not a 'sexual guy'.

Oh by the way my goal is an SNL/ONS/FB. Definitely not looking for a gf SPAM.

I've read 60 years of challenge's stuff, Gunwitch method, Chief's outer game guide and Warpless minds' ESP escalation. As a good guide to getting better at this crucial part of game. I've figured a blog is the best way to improve and to get this sorted. Plus encouragements and criticisms are more than welcome and would help me dramatically.


I only have a few weeks left of uni term and therefore game ends temporarily ( for 1 month).

HBX, Y are not the same in both FRs btw just convenient naming.

1st FR Monday Week 1:

At the bar of the club so it was me then 1 girl and another girl slightly blocked from my reach. 1st set is a two set it was a mutual opening. "Hi" early interaction blah blah and then introduction (don't think I milked). HBX was hotter and more my type looks wise but she was positioned away from me.

HBX: Don't you think she's really pretty.
Me: (pause) I suppose she is quite hot. (something along those lines can't remember what I said or what I should have said)
Blah brief fluff.
HBY(shit/congruence) test I think): Are you going to buy us good looking girls drinks.
Me: No, I don't normally buy drinks for girls at bars.
She then turns fully towards me touches my chest and asks about why and me in general. HB X leaves to talk with other friends so its just me and HB Y. I then isolate her fully to the sofas in the club.

Here I tried to escalate the vibe but I didn't go for those damn hands! The conversation was about 15-20 mins but then fizzled out. At least I was quiet and not jumping around and I definitely was not nodding or using supplicating facial expressions.

I hung out with friends for a bit and danced. Lost enthusiasm .

2nd Set: I decided to leave at this point, in the queue for the cloak room a HB was behind me so I thought might as well.

Me: Are you checking yourself out in the mirror? smiles introduction. Brief fluff. Should have grabbed a seat or escalated had nothing to lose but still didn't grrr.




+ve's

resisted every urge to entertain and be a dancing monkey. I spoke slower didn't try to impress and the isolated HB spoke 70% of the time.

Attempted escalating the vibe.

Went out with friends sober (like 1 small drink) alcohol has been both a crutch and also complete game wrecker at times so I'm glad I was playing without it.

-ve

Didn't go for the hands (IOM-its on moment) or kino much at all. I.E didn't escalate fully.

Didn't make her say no. (both times)

At no point did I use the genuine introduction. " you seemed interested so I wanted to you'

Massive lack of sets!!


P.S plan to go out a lot more next couple of weeks.



2nd FR Monday Week 2 1 kiss close: (Last night)

Same bar/club but this week was really dead. I still decided to plow through and do the best I could.

Spotted a HB in the corner of bar. Opened Hi blah. Smiles slight IOIs. Introduction. Slow fluff talk making sure I wasn't being a clown. Escalating the vibe getting closer etc. At one point though.
HB X: Are you ok you look confused.
Me:went into ear (how so?)
Blah blah. Didn't sit her down (should have) or escalate with hands so I left on a low note.

Saw HB X at the bar much later on. Took her by the hand sat on the couch. Escalated grabbed the hands caressed she did back a bit. I think she was wasted though she kept repeating slowly. "I was at the bar getting a shot with my friend.

When I was that close I didn't know why I didn't briefly K close or say 'let's get out of here'.

In the meantime. Was sitting with a friend and HB Y next to me opens me I think. Fluff briefly I felt I was being boring here though. She had a friend on her side who I ignored. I did take the hands though and not a full IOM but she didn't pull away and she didn't verbalise it either. Problem was there was an arm rest between us and a friend on the other side. How could I have brought her round. I should have tried but I just ejected (BAD).

Literally no more around the bar so I went to the dance floor which I usually avoid. After a while I see HBZ (not great and not really my type) texting so I think might as well. Grab, touch and then K-Close (very briefly I pull away). Immediately take off dance floor to couch. Fluff with vibe get an IOM. Decide I can't really be bothered because she's not that attractive, really annoying to talk to so I leave. Maybe I should have said lets get back to mine or something just for practice.

See HBY( quite hot as well) on dance floor, she would have been easy game if I just was better earlier on but oh well. I think I might as well dance with her but didn't make the K close



+ve's

Went for the hands a few times. Big improvement here.

Realised that the hand grab and non verbal escalations rarely get verbalised so I have more confidence to do it more.

Kept going up to the end of the night even when there were few options.

-ve's

Didn't make her say no. 2/3 sets AGAIN

At no point did I use the genuine introduction. " you seemed interesting so I wanted to you' AGAIN


I was up for doing more sets but there literally were very few options.


Also side note I keep mentioning the whole not impressing/joking/clowning thing a lot is because that's what I instinctively do as a default setting. And I haven't written down the rejections I have because I barely remember them just occasional ignores or funny looks.

Questions:

Groups in this kind of game can be a bit awkward. How do you deal with them I haven't even bothered approaching them. I've only done 'lone wolves' (GWM lol) and 2 sets.

I felt I was risking 'boring' by not talking so much. How do you steer the convo in a interesting direction if your not talking so much? I've seen that 'qualifying' is one way to do this but I have no idea how?


FRs take a while to do but I hope this will help me improve. Please feel free to contribute/ criticize.

I'm also really enjoying this at the moment so I want to go out a lot.

I'm going out tonight, help would be appreciated!

Fuck-up report Week 2 Wed

Went to an event which didn't need I.D but they were out of tickets. And so didn't have I.D to get to alternative venue... lol

Mostly posted this to bump, I would love advice on the issues in my last FR.

Plan to go out Fri and or Sat.

Right, so it's been a while thought I'd update on my progress.
After the last post I had to take like 7 weeks off move to the country side and work my ass off for exams.
When I came back to the big city, I had freedom to go out with friends on most days and had so much time just to have fun and as the title of the blog suggests to ESCALATE. So I've following essentially 60's method combined with little bits of stuff i've read here (especially Warpless Mind + chief) and my own twist. Playing what is basically a open and escalate hard numbers game.

Over the past 3 weeks I've learnt a lot and I have improved a lot: Right when I got back during the first week I had 1 complete Fk up where I did nothing and then one night of just being social to get started. The next 2 weeks were my most successful ever; it would take to much time to write all the FRs but I've k closed about 8 girls, went for full pull/isolation with one - was too slow and got blocked by a male friend and slept 'with' one other who gave a hell of a lot of LMR I persisted and didn't get further than 3rd base.




Things I've definitely learnt/got confidence in/improved.

1. The absolute and utter power of social momentum. I've realised this is everything even if I've been out sober (makes going out so ridiculously cheap) and had mixed feelings at the start of the night, every single good time I have got the ball rolling hard and fast I warm up, open virtually anyone I want, get rejected, self-amuse even before entering the venue. Without fail this does lead to complete blissful state of mind and 'social god mode'.

2. Escalation (obviously). It's easy. All you have to do is bite the bullet and escalate early on and you can do it all night. Escalating properly, such as 60's method/warpless mind's ESP ( essentially sexual state, seductive vibe, getting close, eye contact and touch (hands)), I've realised is easy and puts women into a trance like state, where you can get away with anything.

3. Conversational Game Just before my break I had a lot of doubt in this part of my game when it used to be strong. All it took was momentum and practice to fully restore my confidence in it. Additionally 'STFU Qualification is attractive' was implemented to an extent but not to the detriment of the flow of conversation. I now trust myself to a)Not be a dancing monkey and b) keep a somewhat interesting conversation while escalating; it's really not that hard.

4. Make the Ho say no. This mindset has helped me always push it as I can with every interaction, I have persisted, ignored resistance and escalated where other guys would have given up a long time ago. Especially in the case where I got LMR I smirked and ignored/reframed lots of resistance as ASD and just played it cool.

5. Inner Game I have complete assurance in Pick-up, the idea that the fundamentals don't work is just ridiculous how can going out meeting new women and pushing things in a sexual direction not get results?? Also as someone who is inexperienced I just don't care about rejection is just means nothing to me I just look at it as a complete screening and numbers game, I know I'm not that smooth and cool but I don't care it's something that I can deal with later when I start getting lays.





Next week I'm in a new city for a week, full of students and clearly I'm going for the lay. One major thing that I wanted help with was making things sexual. There seems to be a lot of contradictory advice, I can somewhat consistently make it ON but what do I do from there. Just start more sexual kino? talk about sexual topics? Keep it subtle and discreet? Wait for a sexual state? Keep asking her to go home with me? Making out for a while? This was one part where 60 didn't give any solid plan and it kind of confused me. ( I understand from the 3rd part of his system the bits about persistence asd etc that makes sense but he doesn't specifically say what to do after its ON)
(I've learnt not to break rapport at this point as that has blown it for me a few times.)

Also what are the time frames for same night lays? 60 seems to suggest that in an ideal world you can just open, make it ON with an introductory hand shake and then start getting sexual and pull almost immediately. What is a more realistic time expectations for SNLs?


Cheers for reading this long post and hopefully you can comment + advise.
Radar01

Starting again for all of next week. Could anyone help? Warpless Mind,Chief etc?

I am posting in this thread as a reminder for me to reply later when I have more time

Right, I have a bit of time so I'll post some FRs and updates.

I'm back to my home town which means the best local place to "sarge" is approx 30 mins away, public transport is bad late at night so my best option was to use the car. Sadly that means since I'm living with rents at home no real options for lays other than alley ways and my car [lol] seems unlikely.

Even though I've cut back really heavily on booze over the past few months this was my first outing completely sober. Additionally this was my first time with just me and a wing I'll call him L. (a DN reference ha). I don't use a wing in the same way as most people here, we just went out together and entered 'sets' on our own, meeting up and debriefing/making plans every hour or so. We went out 3x this week.


Night 1 FR+:
So I pick up L at half 10 get to town for 11. As we walk to the venue I see some like 30 yr old Goth/lesbian looking women sitting at the outside of the bar. I think fuck it might as well get some momentum going, I felt pretty nervous for some reason rare for me then I splurt out my friends playful opinion opener. "I need to ask you a really important Q... What IS your favourite vegetable" they responded quite well, I sat down and bantered for a bit though not particularly well, L then went and asked a large table what there favourite veg is. Seems slightly bizarre but worked quite well for loosening up. On the rest of the walk I proposed to some random lone women for giggles, then we get there and I feel warmish state wise.

Walk inside the place and start forming some neutral/negative opinions of the place for no real reason. See some girl who works for a std awareness company at the back offering freebies if we do a urine test, banter with her for a bit then leave to the outside area of this bar. Sit down with L in corner look around see lots of HBs but no motivation to approach. Then think about it for a 10 seconds realise I'm doing exactly what I shouldn't be doing. I jump up and approach a 3-set. Open with 'did that guy just kiss your hand !?, I start vibing and I end up talking to a tall girl (6' in heels). I get a bunch of IOI's including compliments on my hair and eyes. [This happens quite a lot to me, I start talking to a group then I naturally, by the group and myself get directed to the most interested girl, so I figure I may as well approach any group I want, vibe and not give a shit about group dynamics especially at my amateur level.]

So I'm just talking to HBtallgirl the others are about to go inside I go with them then isolate quite easily towards the bar. I know this is a challenge because as a shorter guy (slightly under 5'8") tall girls always used to break my frame and confidence in the past, but since learning this stuff it has faded away quite significantly. I keep the conversation going, it's ok but not particularly smooth or exciting, my frame and confidence is completely solid even with the height pressure going on. I know I should escalate and probably about 15 mins before this, as the title of this blog may suggest, but I don't in this case and I know it's staled out into friendly guy zone. So about 25 mins in I say bi and eject.

A bunch of other stuff happens this night a few funny stories and the like but it would take me ages to type this all up. I get a few bad responses (red- 60yoc) which just make me laugh now and some polite but interested responses (yellow- 60yoc). I also get my first escalation practice on a girl.

Me and my wing are chilling outside, taking a breather. We see this small but well built black guy (call him S) talk to these two girls. Something seems strangely familiar. I look at my wing and say is that guy opening hmmm? 5 mins later S ejects and goes to us damn I needed a wing. I slyly smile and L says how have you been doing. S replies I nearly "Alright I nearly K-closed tonight" then I just start laughing pretty hard, we chat to this guy for a bit, I just find it hilarious how we are in the middle of england and I get a familiar vibe off a guy and he happens to be a wanna be PUA.

We all mess around for a bit do a few more approaches inside and stuff, my state is hot now btw and has been for last hour or so. I then meet S in the outside area again later. He tells me that I should open the girls sitting in the corner, they look very hot and I'm not too sure but I look him in the eye and say 3..2..1 I go over there and open the blonde on the right with pretty much hello. (bear in mind I'm so in the zone and full of momentum that I probably could have got a way with anything.) I'm just vibing with her, she's actually pretty cool and I'm having fun so the conversation is also fun and not work. I'm making a point to make sure I escalate ' laser eyes' all the way. I think she's about 20/21
As a side note at some point S comes in he seems fairly wasted and he goes to HBblonde "this guy is a leeeeggggend" I think he was trying to dhv me or something while I appreciate the sentiment was not necessary. Then I watched alcohol ruin his once competent game he goes to one of her hot friends, "what's your name prettyyy babyyyy" blowing himself out.
I shake my head, chuckle and carry on with my game. We keep vibing and I then physically escalate with the hand hold/caress ( IOM- 60yoc), its definitely ON now although it was blatantly on before. I get closer and we kiss (K-close), we stop and she's like "wow I just kissed you". As mentioned before I have no logistics for the pull/SNL and doubly now because it came up in the chat that she lives with her parents over summer. So I do what I'm not supposed to do but I haven't got any better options so I just vibe a bit more then start making out again heavily, she's really into it which is such a turn on and I'm caressing her neck and tits etc. I do this once more but I haven't really got much else to achieve here so I say bye [lives far away so I didn't bother to number close, I leave to check with my wing.

We chill for a bit more get up to some more adventures which I don't have time to type up. But all in all I had an incredible night, I had a lot of hilarity and excitement in general and I was reminded why I love both going out and pick-up so much in the first place.

+ve's:

+Kept my cool and dominance with a girl much taller than me.

+Escalated and got a solid close that possibly would have been a lay if I was in my term time city.

+ Felt yet again the utter power of momentum (60 yoc) that turned me from feeling alright and slightly hesitant to completely on fire and free.

+ Went out completely sober, which didn't actually feel different maybe because I've cut back so much in the past few months and possibly because I am insane.

-ve's (not really that many on this night):

- I didn't escalate on all the girls that seemed interested and were attractive.

- Pussied out of a couple of approaches.

- my screening ability is quite poor at the moment some girls who I thought would be interested blew me out and I honestly thought I wasn't going to get anywhere with HBblonde, but hey I guess that comes with experience. My strategy at the moment is just to go with it and approach virtually anyone guys, girls, groups, 2 set etc If anyone could help with this please post.

Right I have 2 more reports (that are much less exciting than this but still somewhat interesting) to type up and hopefully I'll be out more this week.

So please anyone post comments, advice etc for this and my previous updates. Chief I know you said you were busy but your insight would be really appreciated.

Thx for reading
Radar01

I'm hardly a guru but it seems you're doing alot of the initial hard work pretty good.
I could only think that you've got to lose your limiting beliefs and push harder on the kino and sexual framing, think of fun games to get you touching each other from the start. On the dance floor I do this thing where I say to a girl I've led there "I want to paint you", then I proceed to use my hand as a brush and touch all the outlines of her face and body in a sketch style, you can even push to outline her breasts etc, if she backs away just say it's for art! This way she gets used to you touching all of her body.
If things are really heating up use any excuse to get these girls back to your car or where ever intimate eg. you just bought the latest david hasselhoff album that she must check out Make it your aim to push until you get resistance.
Your other option is to set up day2s where its one-on-one from the start with distractions removed in a relaxed environment.
That's the best I've got.

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You make a very valid point with the "push until you get resistance". Even though I know in theory resistance is fine it's still a bit of a scary thing. However you are completely right, I think Warpless Mind on this forum has a rule to have 50% of your escalations accepted and 50% resisted. Then obviously just relax and laugh off any resistance. I'm probably going out tonight so I'll keep it firmly in my mind. Thx

Day 2s a virtually out the picture for me until like late september/october due to logistics.

FR+: Persistence is attractive + dramatic ending to the night


So tonight I pick up my wing L. and we also meet S (see my last FR for his backstory and how I operate with a wing) and we go to the same bar as last time because it worked so well. On the way to warm up and build a bit of momentum I do my usual marriage proposal thing a few times to some women on their night out, I just find it just has the effect of loosening me up and it's easy to adapt various witty remarks or role-plays to get me in the mood. We also open some other sets asking what's good tonight etc some playful small talk.

As we enter the bar we go to the outside area, we see a guy in his 50's just chilling in the middle, so we say hi to him blah blah, try to make some bar chat with him. The guy reacts pretty hilariously " I am not interested in any of your schemes or shenanigans, I am here with my WIFE and daughter and I love them, I don't do that kind of thing" this literally came out of nowhere we literally say hi, how are you. We find it pretty funny and boom we already have an opener "That guy over there (arm round shoulder) accused us of being pimps". The night proceeds as usual L and I open some sets get a mix of good, polite but uninterested and some bad reactions, fine : green,yellow,red. I see a pretty hot girl in a white dress (HBwhite) and a friend (obstacle). I open with the pimp opener, they react fairly well, L comes over to deal with the obstacle a bit. I pose for a pic with HBwhite where I am the pimp and she is the ho; they left for some reason can't remember why but whatever just carried on meeting new people guys, girls makes no difference.

A bit later on I see S with the obstacle, I re-open HBwhite and she's very receptive we vibe playfully for a bit, I'm being pretty aggressive with my escalation, it's really obvious she's into me as a)she's going along with my touching, physical proximity etc b) huge IOI's like compliments and reciprocation of touching. I also felt the power of laser/bedroom eyes, at one point she said "Stop looking at me like that". I remember the advice from yesterday "push until you get resistance". So I go in for the kiss and she turns her cheek "you are trying your luck", I just smirk and relax, "Radar01 its just resistance, not rejection this isn't real". So i chill keep vibing try once more, no bacon but I had a feeling this was just her teasing style. It was obvious she was still attracted so I just chill, making sure not to be needy by giving casual back turns and talking to other people. As soon as I did something like this she would run back and start touching me pretty amusing really.

I also got that the obstacle was spiking her ASD, so I'll try and switch location from outside to the bar itself. She goes for a piss, I leave her chill with some people and I see her being flirty with the bouncer (why this is important shall be revealed later) she sees me and leaves him, I literally say hi and offer a handshake, he just abuses me, who cares nothing like this shakes my frame when I'm in the zone. So HBwhite and I are dancing and things escalate I get the K-close and the dancing gets ultra physical, she pretty much rubs herself on my hard dick and we are caressing each other, obstacle comes back and her ASD just pricks up again 'she's my girlfriend blah blah."

I meet some more people and I see another cute girl (HBposh). The guy I was talking to had a glowstick on his crotch, so I go and tell HBposh that and she goes and grabs it and they hit it off, I think to myself what a poor choice of opener. Then it fizzles out the guy starts talking to another girl and I chat to HBposh it's going pretty well I befriend her brother who is behind her. The friend then says lets all go and dance. Easy.


It' ON I thought. Then two strong hands grab my back, I look to my left and it was a (different) bouncer he was breathing into my face so I didn't protest lest he smack me. He took me outside, pointed at the bus stop and said "fuck off and go home". I look behind and I see L has suffered the same fate, L asked why and the answer he got was "You were talking to too many people" I didn't know whether to laugh or cry did we just get kicked out a bar for gaming too much!? There was nowhere letting more people in so we mess around on the streets for a bit, then head off home.

I'm very happy with how things are going recently I've improved a ridiculous amount compared to maybe 2 months ago. Sure some sets go badly, some of my conversation doesn't work out that well. However I just keep opening and I keep escalating and things are starting to go pretty damn good. The persistence with HBwhite, I felt I got the balance just right with not giving up easily and being needy which was pretty new territory for me. Just enjoying resistance as a game that it definitely is. If there's anything I needed to do better it would probably the dancing with HBwhite it was the ideal situation for practicing being a sexual threat and the best I really did was caress her ass and tell her 'she had a tight body' which is pretty weak to be honest.

So as usual all comments, criticism and advice is more than welcome.

Thx
Radar01

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Adventures in Eastern Europe, I was there for four nights with L and a few other guy mates and yes it's true it's not just a stereotype the women are ridiculously hot, almost every young woman is in shape and perhaps to estimate on average each woman +1.5  to the UK.  Would definitely recommend going, very fun unique place that was v different from anything I've seen before. 

 I'm general, my game is tightening massively. The majority of sets are hooking and attraction is looking obvious in many cases. Plus I've  been able to blow almost any new guy out, with confidence, strong frame and energy levels  extremely easy.  I've been making a point to always escalate + isolate so it now feels very natural. However I definitely have not got the sexual threat/ full closing skills part down at all and it's getting a little frustrating.  Have a look through the FR to help me sort out this sticking point. 


Fr++:  ASD prevents the lay. Again...

So the field was an open bar on the top level and a darker bar + dance floor on the bottom. Since the last Hb, is the one I'm focussing on I'll keep the rest brief and to try to maximise replies to this. 
Because it was Saturday ( weekdays had more tourists)  most people were native speakers.   We pretty much got blown out of every  non English speaking set, so we do our usual thing of building momentum and having some fun amusing conversations.    My first good set was a native who spoke decent English.  Went reasonably well,  L  wasn't yet in the right mind frame to actively pursue his target.  I isolated to the bar and then to dance floor.  Felt a bit of fear but I knew I had to go for it, if not for her but the next girl. So I burnt the first good set to ground by touching then going for k-close.  She told me she had a boyfriend in the army abroad, she still stuck around and seemed attracted but I'm not going to be that guy who breaks up relationships.  Even though it didn't happen making sure I pulled the trigger definitely set the precedent for later tonight. 

We keep going again, L is now in top mode after a bit more momentum. ... I'll skip over a few sets here because it's not really Important. Then I see a 3 set (HBtall, HBblonde, HBredhead)  locals  but they speak good English.
I approach, they aren't green straight away they give me a few frame/shit tests but it's fine and they warm up quite quickly, I signal L to come in. He chats to HBtall, I am with the redhead and blonde.  Decide to have HBrh as the target, I'm Interacting with  both well (about 15 mins, but I'm shoulder to shoulder with HBrh and pay her slightly more attention. I then reach down (with subtelty for obvious  reasons) and take her hand by the side, she reciprocates touching, it's ON.  They go inside to the dance floor, L cba with HBtall and finds some new targets. I isolate on the dance floor and escalate a bit more physically there.  I then take to a quiet isolation point on a balcony. 

Heavy seductive vibes are going on here we are v close and talking slowly. I go for the k-close
HBrh: I'm not that easy.
Obviously it's only token resistance/asd so I smile leave it for 1 minute, second time it works fine.  [should this have been a red flag as to what was to come? I.E in future should I find a new target if it takes all that effort to get one kiss?]  After a few mins:

Radar01:  let's go outside for a walk.
HBrh:  (shy) why?
Radar01:  (hold tension)...(smile)... let's go.
HBrh: Ok I'll tell my friends I'm leaving.

My hearts pounds hard, for the first time in a pick-up in a while probably shows I'm breaking into new territory.
 
Bump into L before I leave he's very excited that I may be getting my first cold approach fuck.  He says it's on for him with a milf (lol). 

I think I'm doing well up to this point but I think I butcher it up from here.  It's a long time period of time from this point, so I don't remember all the details.

We leave together (at this point it's about 30-40 mins of the interaction).   We are hand in hand or arm over the shoulder for about an hour walking, after it's officially on I've found conversation is very comfortable and easy since pressure seems slightly off.  I spend most of this time building a connection half the time it's fun half the time it's a deeper link. [Should I have focused more on sex itself!?/ done something more sexual theat like?]

We arrive by my hotel. Heart beats again.

Radar01: You should come up and listen to *band we like].
HBrh: I can't go there... With you.
Radar01: We are both adults, we will only do what we are comfortable with. (credit 60 yoc).   

But no bacon, so we walk past and I say let's grab a seat.  We talk a bit more,  a makeout that gets a bit more intense, she kisses my neck for a while,  I caress her ass.  At this point I try using some sexual threat stuff (with little previous experience so I'm probably a bit uncalibrated) 'I'm usually a gentlemen but look what you've done to me'.   Put her hand on my crotch etc.

At one point she says " I'm surprised you haven't gone further with me"  this was one mind fuck of a comment. I replied with " Well I did invite you to my room" but was this a shit test or what? 

HBrh: you're supposed to be enjoying the city, look around you?
Radar01: It's kind of hard to concentrate with a hard on. 
HBrh: giggle giggle.

I persisted a few more times and walked a bit further. But about 3 hours in I called it quits and kissed her goodbye.   I may have possibly killed the sexual tension by kissing far too much.

I tried to convince myself and L that she just wasn't at all DTF but in reality a better closer probably could have sealed the deal.

Dealing with this amount of ASD/LMR and not pulling through is so mentally draining ; I must be better prepared next time.  I'm pretty sick of having to write FR++  instead of LR , getting so close just feels like I need to nail the last step that bit better before the lays start rolling in.  Help and clarification of this part would help me so much.

Thx
Radar01

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So close! Before I dive in here, let me just say that I wouldn't beat myself up over things like this. You are young and you've only been doing this since January. You have literally a lifetime of girls ahead of you. I wish I was this competent at 18. Also, as I've mentioned in my thread, some girls just have a stupid rule about when they will bang and for many of them it doesn't include first night encounters. I'm not saying this girl had that rule, she may have, she may have not, its impossible to tell...Just keep it in mind. No matter what anyone says, you can't slay them all right away.

That said, I think you are actually really showing a lot of potential. I haven't read the first few posts but in this last one, you did so many things correctly, I'm pretty sure you'll be knee deep in pussy before you know it.

Also, I skimmed the first post and I don't know much about any of the guys you mention but I've glanced at some of 60's stuff and I think he's pretty legit, probably pretty similar to how I run my game so stick with him. Don't cloud your mind up with too much reading or whatever.
I like this term. When I am really firing on all cylinders, I just have this sense that girls are almost intimidated by my sexual presence. The way I view it is that girls fantasize about having a fearless, dominant guy shamelessly seduce them but when it finally comes along, its actually makes them a little nervous. And that's a good thing. Think about how you'd feel if two smoking hot girls came along and made it clear that they wanted to blow you at the same time. You'd be excited and all for it, but chances are you'd be a little bit anxious about the whole thing too.
 Excellent. As I say in my posts, force her to go RED or GREEN.  
In my humble opinion, up to this point, you have not only done well, you have done great. Tying in some of what I give below would have fired things up a bit but up to this point, you are on the right track.

Now, let's read into the situation a bit: you are about 30min in, and you've got this girl alone, receptive to your advances, and willing to walk towards your hotel with you. She knows what's coming dude and she's in.

This is sort of the point I discuss where you've felt her out and figured she was good to go (I'd call it a GREEN NOW) and now you move into the next phase, which is escalate, escalate, escalate. From this point onwards, you are pretty direct with her and all of your subcommunications are sexual: Sexual stares into her eyes. Slow, seductive voice. Tons of physical contact. Looking at her lips and subtly licking your own. Close body positioning.
Like I said, at this point she knows what's coming and she wants it, but she needs you to be the one to lead things there. I'd probably walk for about 2-3 minutes, talking as usual, then just stop, forcing her to stop. She might even say "What???" No response from me; I'd stare into her eyes for like one second, pull her into me, and then throw her into a wall or a truck or a car or something and makeout really aggressively and heavily for like 4-5 seconds. Bonus points if you pull her hair, choke her lightly, or grab her ass. Then I'd just grab her hand and walk away like nothing ever happened.
It doesn't really matter what you talk about. Just keep her guessing as to when you are going to pounce on her. If I get into more serious subjects with girls when I'm looking to close, that's fine. I actually like it. A bit of emotion bonding is always good in my opinion. But I'll make sure to keep all the subcommunications very seductive and to interrupt her from time to time by saying something like "I'm sorry can you repeat that? I got distracted thinking about how badly I want to kiss you/what I want to do to you..."

I will also, in these moments, throw in a non-sexual compliment. This is really powerful. It can be as simple as "You are so adoreable." Or "God, the way you get excited over X is so freaking cute." Or "Not only are you hot, you are like really cool/sweet/genuine/good natured too." If you've been escalating pretty hard, the response is usually "melt and surrender."
You played into her world right here. I would have gone with something like a slight chuckle and "Ha, we're just gettin started little girl." Or even "And who says I won't."

There's a bunch more little places where I can tell you what I would have done but it all follows the same pattern as the examples I've given above, so maybe go back through the interaction and think about ways you could have changed the outcome.

Here are some general escalation points to consider:

At the point where you've isolated her and gotten her out of the bar (ESCALATION PHASE), its a lock she's attracted to you and it's a safe bet she wants to hook up at least a little bit. I think there are a few themes that are important when that's the case:

1) You are shameless and completely comfortable with showing all sorts of sexual intent towards the girl. You are taking things where you want them to go. This is the position of power. Don't ever let her shake you from there. Even if she rejects your kiss or your advance, you have done no wrong. Go ahead and tell her that you are going to explore every inch of her from head to toe. Be proud of it. Grab the back of her hair when you pull her into to talk into her ear. Put your hand at the top her her chest when you kiss, like its poised to choke her. That sort of thing. Just be fucking aggressive.

2) She is having a huge sexual effect on you and you are having trouble controlling it. Like I said, a girl at this stage is really into you. What girl doesn't feel good knowing that she is turning a guy she's attracted to on? This is why I say things like her lips are distracting me or I am having trouble concentrating. It's also why the hand on boner moves works while saying "What have you done to me?" It's kind of a dichotomy between this point and the first but that's what makes it so intoxicating to the girl. On the one hand, you are this dominant, sexual guy who is powerfully controlling the interaction. On the other hand, you are getting so turned on by her that you are almost powerless to control yourself. That's sexual threat.

3) Everything is unpredictable. This is the essence of tension, which is what gets the girls who are not 100% DTF into your bed. Just when she thinks you are about to make a move or do something really pleasurable for her, you go the opposite direction. You have to make them want to be in bed with you by wondering what's in store. It's why I gave an example of throwing her into a wall, doing a quick makeout, and then just as suddenly walking away. She is left wanting more. Or asking her where she likes to be kissed most. If for example, she says the base of her neck, go towards it, hover over it, say "Right here" while breathing on her, and then grab the back of her neck and whisper in her ear "I can't wait to kiss you there then." And then just go back to normal conversation. Or, while you are talking, be touching her a lot, and then just kind of pull away all the touch and make her lean in for more. Or give her a nice smack on the ass out of nowhere. My go to move is almost kissing. I'll just tell a girl I'm trying really hard to behave and that I want to kiss her so badly. Then I'll move in and just hold it there, basically so our lips are 1mm apart. She'll either move to make the kiss happen or I'll just push her away and go back to the normal thing. Either way she's gonna start pursuing after that.

I hope that all makes sense. It's a very individual type of thing but after a few tries you'll have your own style and it'll start to come together pretty well. It's a lot of fun. Good luck.

Thanks I appreaciate it a hell of a lot.

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oooh yeah. I took it easy over the last 2 months or so, but I recently got back into the swing of things. This is my second big night out recently and..

I finally F! closed. Got Laid. Fucked! I'll probably do a proper LR later on but it was quite simple this time really, chat-isolate to dance floor-k close- pull to her place no LMR.

Moral of the story, open then escalate always not that complicated.

Thx particularly to this forum,RSD and 60.

Hopefully this becomes a more frequent occurence.

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