Trivial
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 Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject: THE MYSPACE METHODS |
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METHOD 1
Credit (OV_Status
The Status Guide to Myspace Pimpin’
This has all been field tested with amazing results.
Status’ Myspace Pimpin’ is broken into five parts.
1. Open with Neg
2. Opinion Opener
3. Close for screenname
4. Comfort through IM
5. Close for number and Day 1.
Open with Neg
Myspace HB’s get opened with all kinds of crazy things from all kinds of guys. Your first message should be creative and catch her attention among 50 other messages. Make her think, “why would he say that?”
I use a neg that I got from a post by Tmak, but he says he got it from someone else:
Subject: Question?
Are you wearing a wig...........or is that your real hair?
~Status.
When I start myspace gaming I send this exact message to about 10 to 20 girls and at the very least I get 60% reply, sometimes as high as 90%, and the hotter the girl the better the replies.
*note-I always sign my messages. People tend to like things that are familiar to them. Proximity and Recognition play a huge psychological role in who we make friends with. By signing your name, you are subconsciously building comfort with this girl. And use your PUA name, Its Unique Plus she will probably ask you about your name and this will help build a good conversation and more comfort. Also you should of course have a good DHV story for your name and how you got it.
My very next message will go into an opinion opener.
**Another important note here. DO NOT REPLY when you read her messages. Wait at least a day, maybe two. Think about when you are awaiting a message from a girl, how do you feel when you finally get it? Make her look for your message, let her look at her sent folder and see that you read it and did not respond. YOU are not a myspace dork, YOU are not a myspace addict and YOU don’t rely on myspace as an easy way to talk to women b/c your not a social retarded. Make her wait.
Opinion Opener
No matter how she replies to your opening neg, you want to cut that string fast and move to an engaging subject. This will immediately make her interested in you, as you become a very interesting person, and a little mysterious.
I use the Lesbian Girlfriend opener, I do it well and its by far my favorite right now.
Her: “Oh its my real hair.....why does it look fake?”
Status: “Oh. I was just curious. Don’t worry it looks nice. While I have your attention, I need a female’s prespective on something......Say, this guy is dating this girl, and she goes out with her friends, has a few drinks and ends of making out with a random guy at the bar.....Would you consider this cheating?”
Her: “Blah, Blah, Blah”
Status: “Interesting.....okay, let me ask you this......Take the same scenario, but this time the girl is making out with another girl, and lets say she does this almost every time she goes out.....would you consider that cheating?”
Her: “Blah, Blah, Blah” (but pay attention to her answer, look to see how hard she hooks. The harder she hooks the faster you can close, if the hook isn’t great, you will need to put in more work. I’ve used this and number closed successfully right here. My number close will be shown below.)
So, she hooks pretty hard. Here’s an example of what a girl said, and my next move.
Her: “yes just cuz there is no male competition that doesn’t mean that what she is doing is right. If this is a girl you are dating ummmm yeah you need to figure out if she is a just for fun girl for you or if you really want her.
The next question is...do you consider any of the two scenario’s, that you have just given me, as cheating, What’s your take on it?”
Status: “Leslie,
well, this is a situation that my friend Chris is in. he has been dating this girl for about 6 mos and he really likes her. and then she tells him that she makes out with girls all the time. he's not really sure how he feels about it. on one hand, he thinks its hot, but on the other, he fears that he can't satisfy her and that they will never get more serious. my opinion, I think she should have been more upfront with him from the beginning. i'm big on honesty. if you establish the relationship as casual then its fine.
I like your take on things. I have to get some work done, but we should talk some more. do you have IM. let me get your screenname. I promise I'll only send you creepy inappropriate messages 9 times per day 
~Status”
*at first this might look a little AFC, giving my opinion, but the whole point, of using this opener on myspace is to build comfort. With my page, my opener, and this opinion stacked, I’ve already established myself as smart, confident, and interesting. Now I need comfort, comfort, comfort. Remain in control of the conversation, but show that inside you are a genuine guy.
*The last paragraph is a close taken from D’Angelo’s Sisonpyh, classic post. This is a great post, I suggest reading the whole thing. Easily 90% of the time I get an AIM screen name from this close. And a lot of times I will go for a number close on with the same technique, but the reason I used a screen name close here is b/c I did it so early. I had only run the opinion opener and that’s really it. But our conversation has really hooked this girl and I want to take advantage, keep the momentum rolling, so I suggest if you feel you can close early, close for a screen name, then you can work more comfort on IM (the cube) and easily close for the number and the “meet up”.
If she doesn’t hook very good with the opener, then I usually fluff a little, throw in a DHV about my weekend, and just keep going till I get a good response, then I close. You really want to time the close right b/c you really only get one chance on myspace. You don’t want to look like your trying hard. If you fail, I usually wait a month and then come back with fluff and try to hook and close again, but thats only if she is really hot And I really want her. Also, if you don’t hook good, it’s a great place to run the Bait, Hook, Reel, Release. I’ll use it on her nationality and I’ll even cut down her zodiac sign and say why I can’t be with her.
Here’s an example of one I almost blew, and then managed to recover, solely through getting her to qualify. And it took two attempts, she really hooked hard afterwards:
I had attempted a number close and she asked for my number......
Status: “I'm not in the habit of giving out my number. you could be a sexual predator Tell me three things about yourself that make you worthy of my number? then, maybe you'll get it.”
Her: “ I have more than 3 things to write to you,and really small amount of time to describe myself and all my qualities,and besides,i dont have nerves to advertise myself for a phone number on myspace
so have fun on salsa dance tonight,and see you around “
Status: “ah...you're a fiesty one. as far as my asking you to qualify yourself to me.....I had to. you see, I had the worst relationship ever with a Leo, and I wanted to see how you would respond. I found that this girl lied to me constantly in order to make me happy. she allowed me to completely dominate her. until, i finally got the truth out of her and things quickly fell apart.
I like a girl that challenges me, that stands up for herself, someone i can learn something from. so yeah, i had to test you a bit.
But you seem different. we should meet up sometime for a cup of something wonderfull. maybe we can be friends. talk to me.
~Status
P.S.
You'll never call....b/c who the hell meets friends on myspace anyway, and from my experience Leo is not very adventurous....but I'll bow down and give it to you anyway, xxx-xxx-xxxx.”
**I made the mistake of sounding like an asshole, when I asked her for 3 things. On myspace you have to build a shit ton of interest and as much comfort as feasibly possible. This means you might have to say some AFC things to get her to follow you. The above sounds AFC, but it gets her to qualify like mad to me, and sets me up as genuine, honest, and interesting.....the perfect guy to take a chance on and meet in person.
Her Response to the Above: “well,thank you for considering me so special to give me your phone numberI am a leo,but i had the best relationship ever with a scorpio,so that leo you had out there,was just mixture of bad planet cohabitations and crossingsI dont lie,because i dont like to be lied to.i rather spill the truth to the face but i discovered that when people know they made mistake,they run away from it and hide.i like to wait for the right opportunity to make stuff clear-lies are not my field,i can get lost in them easily.
And no problem about the friendship,im inand another wrong perception based on your experiences-leos are sooooo adventurousme at least..ill be in the club Home at the DC friday night with friends,so your welcome to join us,ok?
kisses
p.s.maybe ill call ..when you least expect “
So, she goes from being pissed to qualifying like mad, sending me kisses, and asking me to meet her at a club. Needless to say, she called and this one is currently in my rotation!!!
*another note, I always use the word “friend” somewhere in a the conversation. This is another subtle way to get more comfort. And when you see her in person, you are going to build kino and make her forget all about being your friend.
Okay, so back to it, you got the SN and you are running good IM game. You run the cube and she loves it. You get her to qualify to you. Run the Bait, Hook, Reel, Release (this is money on myspace and on IM, I love using it ). Tell her why the two of you won’t get along. From here I run the following close, taken again from D’Angelo’s Sisonpyh post.
Well, let's see. what's your schedule for the next few days?
(I chose a time.) Why don't we get together tomorrow at about four. Do you know where the blah blah blah coffee shop is? Great. if we get along, then maybe we can go for a bite to eat. but you know, coffee is a safe bet. this way if you're scary in person, I can say Oh, hey. um. I just remembered that I have to go floss my cat. it's really important. and then we can call it a night. But I think at the very least we could probably be friends.”
*you can try to close for the number before or after this, it really doesn’t matter. Just keep the comfort up and try to feel the right time. You don’t have to go from email to screenname to number to day 1. Just do what feels comfortable, and it will work.
From the Coffee shop, just run basic Day 2 game. Last week I f*closed a myspace “meet up” done exactly like this within 7 hours of meeting for coffee. Its in a LR, if you want to read how I took it from coffee to screaming orgasms.
Thats basically all I do, and it really works. 7 out of 10 usually reply initially, 3-5 will hook into strong conversations, and 1-3 of those will result in day 1's and f*closes. Considering the difficulty of myspace game, I feel like this is pretty damn good, not only that, Its Consistant , I get these numbers every time. Not only that, my boys that I’ve schooled on this are getting them too.
But don’t ignore the little things, signing your name, underlying confidence with genuine nice guy qualities, smiles and jokes, getting her to qualify, and anticipating resistance. The more you hit on those things the more success you will have!
METHOD 2
credit (HEARTWORK)
All right, I have an injured ankle so I haven’t got out as much as I would like lately. I figured this would be a great time to perfect my online game. I feel I have somewhat done that now and after months of fine-tuning. I am ready to share my new organized method. Some parts may sound familiar cause I have literally tried all the routines for myspace-ing and all the things to say and what not to say. I have taken the good, ripped out the bad, and have thrown in my own ideas developed through months of trial and error. I know there are going to be people out there that disagree with parts of my method but hey, this is what works for me, every time. I am fully open to any and all opinions about this routine. Changes can be made. If you have specific questions or need help with responses feel free to PM me and I will help in any ways I can.
Here it is…Heartwork’s Myspace Method
Step one: Find a Target
Say you have a hot friend, turns out she has hot friends in her top 8. Pick the hottest and game her using this routine. Be sure not to use it again on anyone else in her top 8 without changing the routine or your game could leak and they will be on to you.
***The good thing about this routine is that you can change all the lines to how you feel best fits you, just take this method as somewhat of a “guideline”***
Step two: Open to the Target
First off do not send her a friend invite yet, she will either do it or you can do it once she responds to your opener.
I have tried just about every online opener out there and I find that this one works the best:
Subject: Hey you know what…
Body: I was reading your profile, and I saw that you like
sparkles, glitter, pink nail polish, and shopping.
Ya know what? Me too!!! Let's hang out.
The most common response to get is “haha sounds good : )” so if you don’t know what to expect using that opener, that’s what you can plan for.
***I personally find the subjects don’t really matter all that much. I don’t care if she gets a million a day. She likes the reassurance of chumps calling her hot, she will never message them back but she will open every message looking for that “hey baby your so fine.” That’s why myspace could better be known as “fuckspace” It’s filled with chumps and for us PUA, its like shooting fish in a barrel. Oh yeah and you have to change the opener according to her profile, works best on girly girls. ***
Step 3: Getting her to talk (A,B,C routine)
Step three just happens to be a routine involving three different questions that create somewhat meaningful conversation. Although I will provide example questions I do highly suggest you find your own, once again this method is set up so you can do so.
A) At this point she has responded to your opener, and either has or hasn’t sent you a myspace friend invite, it doesn’t really matter.
First you should throw in a small neg. I usually accuse them of being some kind of crazy myspace killer. Then mention how you would like to become better friends before you meet up. Then initiate the first question. It doesn’t really matter what it is, it’s meant to be a meaningless, just make it a question she can respond to and add “how about you?” It can be anything, like what’s your favorite color, favorite animal, favorite flower. I use those because lots of sites with symbolism can be found that represents colors, animals and flowers, you can turn it into a nice cold read in your next response.
Example after opener (already sent me a friend invite)
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB
haha yeah sounds good
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Heartwork
Well, you know, before we even think of hanging out we should probably become better friends, I mean I got to make sure you’re not some crazy 55 year old man that kidnaps people on myspace ; ). I appreciate you sending me a friend invite but without communication, this friendship is going nowhere, and that would be a real shame, so here it goes…
What’s your all-time favorite animal?
Just wait till you here mine!
End of example
***Notice I used a smiley face while negging, use those and “haha’s” they are your friends and the only way to express emotions online. Also notice how I add, “Just wait till you here mine!” this forces her to say my favorite animal is _____ what’s yours? ***
B) Once she gives her answer to your question from A, sound interested like you are into it to, she will ask you the same question in return so have a good short story to follow it up, nothing to long though. If you used my suggested questions you can go to this web site (http://members.tripod.com/~onespiritx/magick18.htm) to help you develop a cold reading that complies with her answer. Once you have done that add a future projecting question to the bottom of the message, there are tons out there; they are all great so change it up a little. Find which one you like best.
Example
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB
Haha = )
my favorite animal is a cat.
what is yours per chance?
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Heartwork
haha nice, I love cats. You're already like my best friend in the world! I heard people that like cats tend to be mysterious just like cats. And although they may put off a weak image they can be rather independent and stand up for themselves when forced. The only problem is I bet you get easily distracted.
My favorite animal is... dum dum dummmm... the lion. (ironically its also a kind of cat haha) I know it's a common choice, but I really think lions live sweet lives. They're the king of the jungle, they're really strong and ferocious, and they just chill all day being lazy. I think they're great. Plus they can do that crazy roar which is VERY loud. I'm intimidated whenever I watch a movie produced by MGM, because of the lion.
Anyway, Here’s the next question, When we go on a road trip, where are we going and why?
End of example
***I totally ripped off that lion story off from a field report by Luff, thanks man it works wonders. Also if I were to do this again I would shorten the message up a little bit, it just happens to be that in this example I left a longer response, but she later told me she loved how I left good full responses instead of short stupid lines like most guys, so I guess sometimes bigger really is better.***
C) While you are waiting for a response, go off and neg her best picture. Once she gets back to you tell her about how her response to your future projection is to similar to something you would say and how it will never work out. Make it sound like you guys have been together before. Keep things funny and interesting. The last question you ask should be a question that makes her tell a story. Don’t worry about the importance of the story, it’s irrelevant to the next step. Also let her know if she wants to keep talking to you she’s gonna have to do a better job of keeping the conversation up or your gonna loose interest.
Example
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB
haha =) OMFG I DO HAVE LIKE THE WORST ADD, JUST LIKE A CAT! OMG
neways, were goin on a road trip! NICE = ) lol
we should def go to vegas to win lots of money, and we can go see blue man group! then we can get a quickie marriage!!! Hehe
x x x x
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Heartwork
Ha! I love blue man group, were way to similar for a road trip, the car ride would be awful, we would just agree on everything and conversation would be lame and we would end up bitter, and you would pressure me into gambling all my money away. Clearly your rushing me into a marriage I’m not ready for and with my new gambling problem and your ADD you would end up running off with the best looking Elvis impersonator you could find. Hopefully there are quickie divorces across the street from the chapel, quickest marriage ever!
At least we gave it a shot : )
Okay I’m getting sick of asking you all these questions, your asking the next one!!! So here is my last one…
What is the most exiting thing you have done this summer?
End of Example
*** I did have a good tip for C but I cant think of it, anyone else know some good future projection questions, I think they are great, makes the girl imagine hanging out with you and having a ton of fun.***
Step 4: Getting her SN
Okay this is the easiest step but you have to be careful cause IM can fuck with your game, only use it when needed unless you are damn good at keeping an IM conversation without giving away to much personal info or being boring. Your done with the question game for now, don’t drag it onto AIM. Some people think you should not use AIM at all but if you want to GARENTEE that you get the number than I highly suggest it! Once she gets back to you with some exciting story just disregard it if you want, some story about how she bruised her stomach water tubing or got drunk with her girlfriend’s really doesn’t matter at this point. You can give her a small neg about the story, just don’t get to into it or type back an exciting story, just let her know you don’t have enough time to wait for messages and ask if she has a screen name. She will give you it, if she already has it in her profile just IM her and let her know you got tired of sending messages via myspace. Have a small conversation with her then sign off.
Example
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB
Ajahahha your soo funny : )
Oh god well lets see, I was at the mall with my girlfriend lucy and we were in victorias secret and I look over and I realized she was puttting one of those new IPEX bras into her purse……that bitch was trying to steal them!!! Hehe then she grabbed me and was like RUNN and we ran out the door and the alarms went off!!!! I almost peed my pants lolz then we had to spend the whole day in the mall security center yeah sorry someof my friends are crazt, imnot a thief thou lol
So whats the crazzzziest thing you have done?? ; )
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Heartwork
…you got caught stealing panties, wow you guys are losers : )
I’m getting tired of this myspace shit, I prefer my messages to be more “instant”, you got a screen name?
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB
Yuppers! It’s XoiamGoingToBangHeartworkButIDontKnowItYetXO
(that’s obviously not her sn, don’t try Iming it haha)
AIM CONVO A FEW MINS LATER (went something like this)
Me: hey you
HB: heyy!
Me: I gotta go soon cause I got work early tomorrow, I’m just seeing what’s up
HB: aw nmu?
Bla bla bla
Me: Alright I gotta go now
HB: alright nice talkin to ya! Cya later
End of Example
***This is not necessary, but I like to do it when I want to guarantee everything goes smoothly. I will run my game on her later at night so by the time I get her screen name its really late. This way I just talk to her shortly and leave, she will be thinking about me long after I leave cause its late and not much is going on if she’s at her comp this late. It doesn’t even have to be that late but once you sign off on her I recommend, but not necessary, that you wait till the next day to talk to her, this is when you get the number. Oh and by the way you can get her screen name WHENEVER you want, but I don’t really like IM’s cause it can turn you into that lame IM buddy and that becomes pathetic annoying online buddy that will have her ignoring your “hey.” To get a girls screen name you don’t even have to open if that’s all your really want, just say “Hey, you seemed like a cool person but I hate talking through myspace, what’s your screen name?” But that’s pretty AFC. Play the myspace game, not the IM game, unless you like awkward pauses filled with meaningless haha’s and yea’s or even dun dun dun….brb’s!***
Step 5: Getting her number
Here is the climax of your online gaming, you get the number then its smooth sailing till the meet up as long as you are smart. If you followed my method and stuck to its guidelines then you are a couple of IM’s away from a # close. If you followed my advice about waiting till the next day to talk to her then so far you should have only talked on myspace and had a short convo on AIM. (Just a little recap) IM her again and strike up a nice conversation, it doesn’t even really have to be that good, just be talking. Then half way through, say alright well I don’t have time to sit at the comp all day but if you give me your number we can continue this lovely conversation later. She will give you the number. I don’t need to provide an example, I basically just told you word to word what to do.
***I have compared getting numbers on AIM to getting numbers on myspace, Literally EVERY time I have asked for a number on AIM I have gotten it, but I’d say only about half the time I have gotten them through a message on myspace. I have a whole collection of idea’s of why it happens to be this way, but point is, use IM to get the numbers, then you can just stick to phone and email game.***
Step 6: “Calling to say what’s up”
People have all different views on calling girls, some say only do it to plan a meet up and that calling a girl just for the hell of it is AFCish. She gave you her number, she wants you to call, doesn’t matter what the circumstance may be, she wants you to call! For a girl to agree to meeting up with someone they have met online they need to feel safe and familiar with you, a friendly phone call does just that. So give her a call, be sure to put a time constraint on right from the start and have a good conversation. Don’t let things get awkward and don’t let her leave before you do. Tell her about fun places and fun times you have had and how fun it would have been if she were there. Make her visualize hanging out with you, make sure she knows hanging out with you will lead to a good time. You can even say that you will be too much for her to handle and won’t be able to keep up with the crazy things you do when you’re having fun. Be a party! Then leave, say you have to go and hang up. She will notice that you took those good feelings she was having just a minuet ago away with you when you hung up.
***Your phone call is kind of your first impression, read David D’s articles on “Voice Tones” Develop a calm and suave voice. And BE INTERESTING!***
Step 7: Back to myspace/planning out the meet up.
Like I said before try to avoid the IM convos, if she IM’s you then talk for a bit, she IM’s you later that day or the next, ignore it, she will be all the more surprised and happy to see your inviting her to hang out. Leave her a myspace message letting her know you are planning on going to _______ to do _______. Do not put a time and date on yet, first just see if she’s interested. Then once she says yes tell her when you were thinking of doing it and give her some time frame but tell her you have to go and you will call her with further details later.
Example
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Heartwork
Hey you, I’m really want to find a time to go see that new Will Ferral movie, you should come!
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB
Ah that movie looks soo effin funny!! I really want see it too, how’s this weekend sound???
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Heatwork
I think I’m free for most of it, ill call you with further details
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB
Sounds good! : )
Xoxox
End of Example
*** The reason I don’t mention a time and date right away is to make sure she’s not busy, if I said I want to go see the new Will Ferral movie on Thursday afternoon and she said she cant make it for some reason or another and she doesn’t tell me another time then I may come off as needy and seem like I have nothing better to do if I ask again with a different time.***
(oh and for all the kids wondering at home, this is a real convo, the girl is real and she is a HB 9.5, her boobs could be a tad bigger but that’s it. Anyway, we did meet up and see the movie, and no I do not know how it ends, I was “preoccupied” through the whole second half ; ) I have a date with one of her friends next week, I used the same format on her, whole new set of questions, hopefully they don’t catch on hehe. I think I’m starting to get greedy)
Step 8: DON’T FUCK UP
I have seen people blow it here so listen! You set up a date, you still got days in between, avoid AIM. Stick to phone and email, if she’s been a cooperative girl, give her a myspace comment or two make sure they are all good and creative. And when you first meet in person SHOW SOME FUCKING ENTHUSIASIM, give her a hug right away, you got a lot of kino to make up for if you don’t you are in for an awkward evening, and If I ever hear you start the conversation with…”soo” (and look around awkwardly) I will find you and smack you, you’re better than that, you have days to prepare for the meet up, online game is cake, you still need a sharp IRL game if you plan on getting with her, the way I see it, the game has just begun.
I really hope this helps everyone out, I look forward to all your feedback!
Love,
Heartwork
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