Joined: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 7
Location: Adelaide, South Australia Reputation: 19.5
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:28 am Post subject: The great dance floor debate trap or not? My field tests
Hi everyone,
I posted in the PUA lounge ‘why is the dance floor a trap’. The dance floor seems to be a relativly hot topic. I used to be a night club dancer ($30 an hour is good for a uni stident!) and wanted to know how to best use this skill in PUA.
Disclaimer: I don’t want to sound like a jerk but I can move pretty well and danced for about 6 years three times a week. I’m not like some ‘so you think you can dance’ winner but could make it through the first audition, at which point they would find out I'm shit! Just some context for my preliminary field report (about 5 nights of random testing over the past two months).
HB 8.5 and above:
These are usually found on the dance floor with at least two other female friends. Most 8.5+ women don’t dance with a lot of movement or ‘flavour’ and stare at people around them like they are the hottest thing ever. They may talk and laugh with their friends with an attitude like ‘you are all so lucky to be on the same dance floor with me and my crew’.
I have found the best way to approach is to dance behind the target with your friends, while you imitating the targets moves ( the more skilled you are at imitating female dance moves the better, get the facials right!), if her friends look at you give them a big cheeky smile with a cocky / arrogant persona. The target will turn around to look at what her friends are cheeking out, as she does this turn around with your back to her and dance with your friends again.
There are three main outcomes from this action:
1: She taps you on the shoulder and has a go at you for paying her out. Your response.
‘I thought I liked your moves, but when I tried them I realised you could do better, show me the best you’ve got (cheeky smile, arrogant no big deal persona).’
Dance with her get some push / pull Kino then isolate off the floor and commence conversation game. You need to really pull out the stops and blow her off her feet here when she shows you the best she's got and you imitate it perfectly.
2: She turns around glares and goes back to dancing with her friends.
You then get eye contact with one of her friends (the ugliest) and start dancing and having fun with her, then after 30 seconds of fun proof, dance with the targets other friend. By this time the target wants some attention, so push / pull with her, if she gives good Kino reward her, if she doesn’t try to get close to you ignore her and dance with her friends. Once she has kino’d you enough (compliance test her) you isolate and commence conversation game.
3: Target and her friends ignore you.
Grab the closest 7+ female and use her and her friends as pawns. Most women have never had a guy dance really well with them and not grope or sleaze onto them, keep it clean and fun. It will cause a stir on the floor, then you can hopefully transition onto the ugliest of the targets friends. Commence scenario 2.
This seems to be what has worked for me so far (multiple number and kiss closes).
HB 6.5 to 8
Most will just be impressed you can dance! Dance with their friends, show them a clean, fun time, get some laughs, dance with the target, tell her she’s coming to the bar with you because you needs some water and talk shit on the way there and begin conversation PUA.
I used to just go out dance and have fun with friends (had a GF for a long long time) so all the dance floor stuff was very plutonic, I got accused of being gay a lot cos my energy was so much higher than other people (don’t go over the top imitating women, you DO look gay LOL), after the 'imitation' do some masculine moves eg from the movie Stomp the Yard .
Now I’m single I’ve realised you have to tone it down to not look gay!
I hope to have try variations on the above on at least 50 women in the next two weeks. I will have hard statistical data and hopefully a 'silver bullet' for dance floor approaching for all those PUA's that can move on a higher than average level.
PS EVERYONE can dance it just takes practice. I was $hit and started dancing in my sisters classes to get more flexable for basketball and prevent leg injury. Dancing is such great fun and the best fitness you can do. I recommend everyone does a class at least twice a week. In a year you will be good!
PPS If you would like me to test anything dance floor related just reply to this post and I'll let you know how it goes.
I believe that the dance floor is a trap. Here are the main reasons to support that:
1) It wastes time:
Its a terrible timewaster! You waste more time dancing than sarging! Esspecially newbies, they won't approach at all. It doesn't help you to get over Approach Anxiety.
2) It lowers your value:
Although some type of girls may appreciate guys who dance, the majority do not. The most of them see you as a dancing monkey I ve heard guys saying that dancing raises your value. Trust me building up social proof by gaming sets is much more effective.
3) Not the right way of learning the game!
It doesn't help you progress your game! Its too indirect.
Thats my opinion. But whatever works for you guys use it
I think dancing is one of the best ways to run the club. I'm pretty much an afc but on the dancefloor even i get numbers. Thanks for the pointers too. I'll try it out. sounds like it has a good chance of working.
I do agree with gun as far as the "learning the game" part of the post. There is much more to the game than grinding your way to victory. But dancing with a tight hb has two advantages.
1. even a quick dance with and hb9-10 can be a great confidence booster. (especially if you decide to leave her)
2. If you are a good enough dancer it does build social proof. I've had girls come to me who saw me dance with other girls and just start grinding me out da blue.
Yo Rhubarb,
CLUB DANCERS UNITE!!
lol...no homo...ROFL
I'll explain. Gaming is essentially about communication skills, right? So, in order to be effective you rely on having well a well trained Vocal, visual and Kinesthetic language.
On the dance floor its difficult to talk, so the vocal aspect of communication is out. You won't get away with grabbing many girls, so Kino is out, at least at the start. Meaning your left with visual communication only. Now, if your both really good looking and can dance, that may well be all you need. For the other 80% of us though, its a trap.
Your best bet of meeting girls on the dance floor, history has shown me, is to be the guy having the most fun on the dance floor. But then your not really even being a PAU, your just out having a laugh with your mates. Don't ask me what you do when you get a girls attention though. This is where I always fall down (depending on how much I've drunk, sometimes literally)
if poeple think its a trap then your pretty much eliminating the club scene completely. knowing the club scene is gold for people that go with it. no joke.
there is no girl that i know that would like to see a lonly dude hanging at the bar or off to the sides when 90% of the club population are dancing. my oppinion
I ve heard guys saying that dancing raises your value. Trust me building up social proof by gaming sets is much more effective.
