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I just found out about a dude called grandmaster by reading the faq of qunwitch methood, his game sucks(the lines, content of his game etc...) in my opinion , but his underlying phylosophy is what i strongly believe in, and i do and have been doing in my game for years specially in my text and online game, and it works for me specially if you look and my field and lay reports here is the science behind his method:

Contributed to ASF by Nathan Szilard, this is the description of the technique used by a PUA acquaintance of his nick-named Grand Master Flash's. Hence the name GM technique. The key here is smutty sex jokes and continuous humorous sex-talk with keen attention to how the girl reacts, so as to forestall any negative reactions (and you can be sure, there will be plenty in the beginning!:) by saying "just kidding", giving an "apologetic" hug to the girl etc. The reasoning here is this, that if the girl has no chance to express her negative comments about sex-jokes and -comments, this translates in her subconsciousness to agreeing and accepting what is being said. The defences will eventually go down, she has to imagine all the sex-jokes in her mind in order to understand them, and although she might be disgusted or repelled about them in the first place, she won't be able to express her negativism, her mind is bombarded with more sexual references, she just keeps imagining and before she knows it, nature kicks in and… she's getting horny:) Simple:) But potentially dangerous as hell - you really need to be in your element with all the sex jokes and keep "just kidding" in time not to get slapped in the beginning etc. otherwise you could fail miserably:)

Nathan Szilard on GM Flash and his technique, ASF: "That's his aggressive style. Basically he told them he wanted to fuck from the beginning. He had the attitude that he could satisfy them sexually. He had the confidence that says he does this all the time. He was in their face. He was making them excited. He was stimulating them like they are not USED TO being stimulated. If they were going to resist, they would have resisted when he first told them what he wanted from them. There is the INCORRECT assumption that chicks don't like DICK! They love it and they want it! The problem is they want it from the guys they want it from. All he has to do is offer them the SECOND best thing... sexual satisfaction as opposed to sex with a man they WANT! He doesn't even have to satisfy them:) It's too late by the time he's fucking them! All he has to do is make them BELIEVE that if they get with him he is going to fuck them WELL! They couldn't resist because at some point they became HORNY and wanted that RELEASE!"

here is a sample of what i do naturally in my game and how i believe in that:

club-game-text-game-the-skills-method-v ... highlight=

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I just found out about a dude called grandmaster by reading the faq of qunwitch methood, his game sucks(the lines, content of his game etc...) in my opinion , but his underlying phylosophy is what i strongly believe in, and i do and have been doing in my game for years specially in my text and online game, and it works for me specially if you look and my field and lay reports here is the science behind his method:

Contributed to ASF by Nathan Szilard, this is the description of the technique used by a PUA acquaintance of his nick-named Grand Master Flash's. Hence the name GM technique. The key here is smutty sex jokes and continuous humorous sex-talk with keen attention to how the girl reacts, so as to forestall any negative reactions (and you can be sure, there will be plenty in the beginning!:) by saying "just kidding", giving an "apologetic" hug to the girl etc. The reasoning here is this, that if the girl has no chance to express her negative comments about sex-jokes and -comments, this translates in her subconsciousness to agreeing and accepting what is being said. The defences will eventually go down, she has to imagine all the sex-jokes in her mind in order to understand them, and although she might be disgusted or repelled about them in the first place, she won't be able to express her negativism, her mind is bombarded with more sexual references, she just keeps imagining and before she knows it, nature kicks in and… she's getting horny:) Simple:) But potentially dangerous as hell - you really need to be in your element with all the sex jokes and keep "just kidding" in time not to get slapped in the beginning etc. otherwise you could fail miserably:)

Nathan Szilard on GM Flash and his technique, ASF: "That's his aggressive style. Basically he told them he wanted to fuck from the beginning. He had the attitude that he could satisfy them sexually. He had the confidence that says he does this all the time. He was in their face. He was making them excited. He was stimulating them like they are not USED TO being stimulated. If they were going to resist, they would have resisted when he first told them what he wanted from them. There is the INCORRECT assumption that chicks don't like DICK! They love it and they want it! The problem is they want it from the guys they want it from. All he has to do is offer them the SECOND best thing... sexual satisfaction as opposed to sex with a man they WANT! He doesn't even have to satisfy them:) It's too late by the time he's fucking them! All he has to do is make them BELIEVE that if they get with him he is going to fuck them WELL! They couldn't resist because at some point they became HORNY and wanted that RELEASE!"

here is a sample of what i do naturally in my game and how i believe in that:

club-game-text-game-the-skills-method-v ... highlight=
I totally agree with the effects of this style. I have never seen it broken down psychologically before, but this is essential the recipe to sexting. I do this with every woman i meet. "association by sex" I start off slow, and react to her reactions. then escalate accordingly. I would say sex or implications of sex are usually implied within first few texts. If I need to tone it down for a little while i will but even when it's toned down it is always there.

Because of my constant frame of sexuality fused with personality/humor. the more interest they have in me, the more they will want to have sex with me. I am associated with it.

Some women will identify this and shut you out knowing that you just want sex, but in general most women will play along with the sex talk, and man are a lot of women DIRTY DIRTY girls.

I'll even admit, lately I have not been living up to my ends of the bargain. LOL. I've even heard " that's it" a few times. ( 10 mins later)


In my opinion, every woman has potential to be extremely dirty/naughty. It's just a matter of getting it out of them or being the right guy at the right time.


I am not sure he has the right to call it his very own style. I have and many of my friends have been doing this for years, as I am sure you have as well.

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I just found out about a dude called grandmaster by reading the faq of qunwitch methood, his game sucks(the lines, content of his game etc...) in my opinion , but his underlying phylosophy is what i strongly believe in, and i do and have been doing in my game for years specially in my text and online game, and it works for me specially if you look and my field and lay reports here is the science behind his method:

Contributed to ASF by Nathan Szilard, this is the description of the technique used by a PUA acquaintance of his nick-named Grand Master Flash's. Hence the name GM technique. The key here is smutty sex jokes and continuous humorous sex-talk with keen attention to how the girl reacts, so as to forestall any negative reactions (and you can be sure, there will be plenty in the beginning!:) by saying "just kidding", giving an "apologetic" hug to the girl etc. The reasoning here is this, that if the girl has no chance to express her negative comments about sex-jokes and -comments, this translates in her subconsciousness to agreeing and accepting what is being said. The defences will eventually go down, she has to imagine all the sex-jokes in her mind in order to understand them, and although she might be disgusted or repelled about them in the first place, she won't be able to express her negativism, her mind is bombarded with more sexual references, she just keeps imagining and before she knows it, nature kicks in and… she's getting horny:) Simple:) But potentially dangerous as hell - you really need to be in your element with all the sex jokes and keep "just kidding" in time not to get slapped in the beginning etc. otherwise you could fail miserably:)

Nathan Szilard on GM Flash and his technique, ASF: "That's his aggressive style. Basically he told them he wanted to fuck from the beginning. He had the attitude that he could satisfy them sexually. He had the confidence that says he does this all the time. He was in their face. He was making them excited. He was stimulating them like they are not USED TO being stimulated. If they were going to resist, they would have resisted when he first told them what he wanted from them. There is the INCORRECT assumption that chicks don't like DICK! They love it and they want it! The problem is they want it from the guys they want it from. All he has to do is offer them the SECOND best thing... sexual satisfaction as opposed to sex with a man they WANT! He doesn't even have to satisfy them:) It's too late by the time he's fucking them! All he has to do is make them BELIEVE that if they get with him he is going to fuck them WELL! They couldn't resist because at some point they became HORNY and wanted that RELEASE!"

here is a sample of what i do naturally in my game and how i believe in that:

club-game-text-game-the-skills-method-v ... highlight=
I totally agree with the effects of this style. I have never seen it broken down psychologically before, but this is essential the recipe to sexting. I do this with every woman i meet. "association by sex" I start off slow, and react to her reactions. then escalate accordingly. I would say sex or implications of sex are usually implied within first few texts. If I need to tone it down for a little while i will but even when it's toned down it is always there.

Because of my constant frame of sexuality fused with personality/humor. the more interest they have in me, the more they will want to have sex with me. I am associated with it.

Some women will identify this and shut you out knowing that you just want sex, but in general most women will play along with the sex talk, and man are a lot of women DIRTY DIRTY girls.

I'll even admit, lately I have not been living up to my ends of the bargain. LOL. I've even heard " that's it" a few times. ( 10 mins later)


In my opinion, every woman has potential to be extremely dirty/naughty. It's just a matter of getting it out of them or being the right guy at the right time.


I am not sure he has the right to call it his very own style. I have and many of my friends have been doing this for years, as I am sure you have as well.

Yes i totally agree, yo sex man you are back, nice too see, i thought you were gone, welcome back! lol!... I also have been doing it for years, i learned by listening to a dj by the name of "howard stern" but i do not care if grandmaster claim is his method, i like the way he break down the reasoning behind it... That is the good thing about the pua is that they break down psychology behind the stuff we already do...

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There isn't anything grand to the GM STYLE.

Like I said before , it should not take you longer than 20 minutes to pull girls from the club to your house.

Getting laid and threesomes are so fucking easy is just unfair for those who still believe in "game".

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO "YOUR ASS IS INSANE , I WANT IT IN EVERY POSITION" ... ?

anyway , I started going out again and I'M BACK !

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There isn't anything grand to the GM STYLE.
I agree if you read is said his style sucks but i like the PSYCHOLOGY behind his sexual jokes reasoning, which i used a lot in my game...
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Like I said before , it should not take you longer than 20 minutes to pull girls from the club to your house.
Even though i do not doubt is duable in 20 minutes, i go out to dance and have fun, if in 20 minutes i go out let say at 11.00 so 11.20 i go to a motel,her apt. or car and fuck a girl, not only did i waste 3-10 posible prospects, but i just wasted my night and after 11.20-lets say to 1. am if you are a sexual beast, then wtf i am bored the rest of the night, nothing is worst in my experience that hoocking up early and be stuck with a girl all night long...I thought we went through this before and i link a report were i had a girl wanting to fuck me and i declined since it was early in the night... Is on the sexaddict911 post...
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Getting laid and threesomes are so fucking easy is just unfair for those who still believe in "game".
Maybe i am weird, i do not see the woooww in a 3 some, maybe i am getting old, but i like more 1 to 1 interactions with one or multiple girls...
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WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO "YOUR ASS IS INSANE , I WANT IT IN EVERY POSITION" ... ?
nice line! but i have my own stuff..
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anyway , I started going out again and I'M BACK !
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There isn't anything grand to the GM STYLE.
I agree if you read is said his style sucks but i like the PSYCHOLOGY behind his sexual jokes reasoning, which i used a lot in my game...
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Like I said before , it should not take you longer than 20 minutes to pull girls from the club to your house.
Even though i do not doubt is duable in 20 minutes, i go out to dance and have fun, if in 20 minutes i go out let say at 11.00 so 11.20 i go to a motel,her apt. or car and fuck a girl, not only did i waste 3-10 posible prospects, but i just wasted my night and after 11.20-lets say to 1. am if you are a sexual beast, then wtf i am bored the rest of the night, nothing is worst in my experience that hoocking up early and be stuck with a girl all night long...I thought we went through this before and i link a report were i had a girl wanting to fuck me and i declined since it was early in the night... Is on the sexaddict911 post...
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Getting laid and threesomes are so fucking easy is just unfair for those who still believe in "game".
Maybe i am weird, i do not see the woooww in a 3 some, maybe i am getting old, but i like more 1 to 1 interactions with one or multiple girls...
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WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO "YOUR ASS IS INSANE , I WANT IT IN EVERY POSITION" ... ?
nice line! but i have my own stuff..
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anyway , I started going out again and I'M BACK !
ok..
I was adding my comment to your original post , I didn't criticize your thread.

I must add the fact about the "20 minutes"...

Sometimes even after I say to the women : " i want to invite you at my place" , She will say "sure , let's go."

pick boils down to :

CONFIDENCE.

BEING SEXUAL.

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There isn't anything grand to the GM STYLE.
I agree if you read is said his style sucks but i like the PSYCHOLOGY behind his sexual jokes reasoning, which i used a lot in my game...
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Like I said before , it should not take you longer than 20 minutes to pull girls from the club to your house.
Even though i do not doubt is duable in 20 minutes, i go out to dance and have fun, if in 20 minutes i go out let say at 11.00 so 11.20 i go to a motel,her apt. or car and fuck a girl, not only did i waste 3-10 posible prospects, but i just wasted my night and after 11.20-lets say to 1. am if you are a sexual beast, then wtf i am bored the rest of the night, nothing is worst in my experience that hoocking up early and be stuck with a girl all night long...I thought we went through this before and i link a report were i had a girl wanting to fuck me and i declined since it was early in the night... Is on the sexaddict911 post...
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Getting laid and threesomes are so fucking easy is just unfair for those who still believe in "game".
Maybe i am weird, i do not see the woooww in a 3 some, maybe i am getting old, but i like more 1 to 1 interactions with one or multiple girls...
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WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO "YOUR ASS IS INSANE , I WANT IT IN EVERY POSITION" ... ?
nice line! but i have my own stuff..
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anyway , I started going out again and I'M BACK !
ok..
I was adding my comment to your original post , I didn't criticize your thread.

I must add the fact about the "20 minutes"...

Sometimes even after I say to the women : " i want to invite you at my place" , She will say "sure , let's go."

pick boils down to :

CONFIDENCE.

BEING SEXUAL.

confidence, being sexual and escalating... right on!

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Contributed to ASF by Nathan Szilard, this is the description of the technique used by a PUA acquaintance of his nick-named Grand Master Flash's. Hence the name GM technique. The key here is smutty sex jokes and continuous humorous sex-talk with keen attention to how the girl reacts, so as to forestall any negative reactions (and you can be sure, there will be plenty in the beginning! by saying "just kidding", giving an "apologetic" hug to the girl etc. The reasoning here is this, that if the girl has no chance to express her negative comments about sex-jokes and -comments, this translates in her subconsciousness to agreeing and accepting what is being said. The defences will eventually go down, she has to imagine all the sex-jokes in her mind in order to understand them, and although she might be disgusted or repelled about them in the first place, she won't be able to express her negativism, her mind is bombarded with more sexual references, she just keeps imagining and before she knows it, nature kicks in and… she's getting horny:) Simple:) But potentially dangerous as hell - you really need to be in your element with all the sex jokes and keep "just kidding" in time not to get slapped in the beginning etc. otherwise you could fail miserably:)
I've seen one or two guys out before very obviously doing this, and because they kept saying "just kidding" or something along those lines I thought it always seemed like they were going for it and then shitting themselves and backing out. I've never seen this end in anyone getting laid.

However that could be because every time I've seen this it was without much physical escalation. I can see why this would work with correct delivery and may try it myself.

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Contributed to ASF by Nathan Szilard, this is the description of the technique used by a PUA acquaintance of his nick-named Grand Master Flash's. Hence the name GM technique. The key here is smutty sex jokes and continuous humorous sex-talk with keen attention to how the girl reacts, so as to forestall any negative reactions (and you can be sure, there will be plenty in the beginning! by saying "just kidding", giving an "apologetic" hug to the girl etc. The reasoning here is this, that if the girl has no chance to express her negative comments about sex-jokes and -comments, this translates in her subconsciousness to agreeing and accepting what is being said. The defences will eventually go down, she has to imagine all the sex-jokes in her mind in order to understand them, and although she might be disgusted or repelled about them in the first place, she won't be able to express her negativism, her mind is bombarded with more sexual references, she just keeps imagining and before she knows it, nature kicks in and… she's getting horny:) Simple:) But potentially dangerous as hell - you really need to be in your element with all the sex jokes and keep "just kidding" in time not to get slapped in the beginning etc. otherwise you could fail miserably:)
I've seen one or two guys out before very obviously doing this, and because they kept saying "just kidding" or something along those lines I thought it always seemed like they were going for it and then shitting themselves and backing out. I've never seen this end in anyone getting laid.

However that could be because every time I've seen this it was without much physical escalation. I can see why this would work with correct delivery and may try it myself.
I would never say just kidding or whatever gm says to do... i would change the subject, but most of the time i do not even have to, with time you know how to calibrate and change the subject if you notice in my lay report click on the link, i gave a sample of a part were i was trying to be mr. pua and i fucked up, i know i did since she took almost a day to reply, and during our encounter she express to me that it kind bother her,but it was more for the cockiness than the sexulaness, but reality is i did fuck up.....with that being said 99% of the time i do not have to apologize, escalation is crucial, and the sexual confidence vibe from the start...No only that the gm style is weak(his lines etc...)...So if your friends were doing his style they probably will not get laid, the whole point of the threat is the psychology behind sexual/funny style which is and will always be my style mix with escalation and shutting the fuck up most of the time, is strong in natural game... But it has to be congruent, if you are not a funny dude, with the sense of humor it won't work, i am lucky that i am funny, but i am also very sexual and unpredictable so it works for me..There were many many many puas here trying to be funny for example in the chat they were like plain vanilla, they were not funny other than vj, kamui and the trolls..The sexual funny is not for everybody, has to be congruent, and you have to have big balls, self amusement, do not give a fuck frame, no outcome dependent, no have to impress frame, just you enjoying your own craziness...

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I just don't believe this kind of stuff, man. Girl's subconscious wants sex but she says she doesn't and she's disgusted but actually turned on. Bleh, too weird for me.

If you can't tell me what the girl is actually thinking, I don't want to hear it.

I know girls want to have sex, they are sluts, attraction is easy to build but then they have their friends on them the next day, they have to deal with that, they might get attached, what if he's a creep? These are comprehensible problems and you've got to deal with them. I don't see how this is getting you anywhere with those problems, if she doesn't say them she's still thinking them.


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I just don't believe this kind of stuff, man. Girl's subconscious wants sex but she says she doesn't and she's disgusted but actually turned on. Bleh, too weird for me.

If you can't tell me what the girl is actually thinking, I don't want to hear it.

I know girls want to have sex, they are sluts, attraction is easy to build but then they have their friends on them the next day, they have to deal with that, they might get attached, what if he's a creep? These are comprehensible problems and you've got to deal with them. I don't see how this is getting you anywhere with those problems, if she doesn't say them she's still thinking them.

Ah??????Well dude, obviously is not for you, this is my personality so it comes NATURAL, i have a sense of humor and i mix it with sexual double meaning, troll like bits and pieces etc... , it works for me, cause is my personality, you can not try to be something you are not, i cover that with you in another post, but it works, read all my lay reports, they are factual, unedited, live... But as i told you in the other post make the game congruent or adapt it to you and your personality, style not the other way around...I met and seen many dudes trying to be funny, but they are not, for example you read mm or read the game, style is kind of funny, mystery is not(but he think he is), david d angelo has a cocky funny book( and the dude is not funny), grandmaster has a method( and he ain't funny either).. But anyways you get the point...

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There isn't anything grand to the GM STYLE.

Like I said before , it should not take you longer than 20 minutes to pull girls from the club to your house.

Getting laid and threesomes are so fucking easy is just unfair for those who still believe in "game".

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO "YOUR ASS IS INSANE , I WANT IT IN EVERY POSITION" ... ?

anyway , I started going out again and I'M BACK !
Do you run a numbers game Stelar?

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There isn't anything grand to the GM STYLE.

Like I said before , it should not take you longer than 20 minutes to pull girls from the club to your house.

Getting laid and threesomes are so fucking easy is just unfair for those who still believe in "game".

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO "YOUR ASS IS INSANE , I WANT IT IN EVERY POSITION" ... ?

anyway , I started going out again and I'M BACK !
Do you run a numbers game Stelar?

Stelar is gone R.I.P got banned... His style was looking for dtf women and going aggressive sexual direct...

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There isn't anything grand to the GM STYLE.

Like I said before , it should not take you longer than 20 minutes to pull girls from the club to your house.

Getting laid and threesomes are so fucking easy is just unfair for those who still believe in "game".

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO "YOUR ASS IS INSANE , I WANT IT IN EVERY POSITION" ... ?

anyway , I started going out again and I'M BACK !
Do you run a numbers game Stelar?

Stelar is gone R.I.P got banned... His style was looking for dtf women and going aggressive sexual direct...

Wow banned, should have seen that at the bottom of the post.

A numbers game then, he kept going from girl to girl to find out if she was dtf him by being direct since they were already on the prowl. I understand the style, but it really is moment to moment where I go with shit. I prefer to gauge the situation and the woman and go from there. This to me isn't game, I'd have to agree with him.

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Do you run a numbers game Stelar?

Stelar is gone R.I.P got banned... His style was looking for dtf women and going aggressive sexual direct...

Wow banned, should have seen that at the bottom of the post.

A numbers game then, he kept going from girl to girl to find out if she was dtf him by being direct since they were already on the prowl. I understand the style, but it really is moment to moment where I go with shit. I prefer to gauge the situation and the woman and go from there. This to me isn't game, I'd have to agree with him.

Do a search on stelar, according to him he did not go from girl to girl to girl, he screened for dtf... Gm style is not "game" this is just a small part of what i do, just like body langue, and gauging the situation, and i told you the gm style sucks, but when you go sexual with Witt and humor it works...Did you read the lay report?

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