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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:27 am 
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The problem with puahate are:


1. Is that they take a few, sometimes not even plausible instances, and then from their subjective reality they start generalizing things. Often making false assumptions from unsubstantiated and invalid premises.

2. When you talk to a girl then they will label it as PUA or gaming a girl. What a bunch of retards. Don't they know that talking/approaching a girl is just part of NORMAL human socialization? What NORMAL people consider as socialization, they label it as an approach or something else. HEALTHY normal people socialize all the time. We are human beings and it is normal to crave for affection, attention and other emotional/sexual needs but in moderation.

3. They are “Insecured”, they assume failure and create a self – fulfilling prophecy which will spiral downwards to hesitation/procrastination and misery.
Plus, their weird crazy belief will hinder them from taking action when necessary.

4. They take no responsibility and blame everything on external factors to protect their fragile sensitive little egos.

5. PUAhaters rely too much on conveying superficial qualities as a way to supplicate to the demands of women that they end up getting preyed by shallow cunts i.e. gold diggers and playgirls. They attract the worst kind of girls which will further reinforce a false belief.

6. PUAhaters are like clueless scientists trying to break down attraction by using one dimensional “factors” – facial images…. It’s just like making scientific correlations from online dating. That is why PUAhaters always fail.

7. They have learning disabilities. They fail in reading comprehension.

8. Extreme Polarize thinking, for PUAhaters; it is either black or white.

9. Habitual Negativity/Pessimism and everything related to it.

10. Naiveté about women’s’ psychology paired with wrong socio-sexual programming.

11. They miss the point of being extroverted and having other things going in life, which is to have more opportunities in meeting women while at the same time being able to zoom out and see life as a whole.

12. The puahaters are absolute retarded bullshitters and are spreading a really negative limiting belief to give to guys. PUAhaters basically say "wait around until you see a girl likes you, and then go for it" which basically leaves everything up to chance and gives you no motivation to try and succeed or alter your fate in any way. This will cause shy introverted virgins to become even more socially withdrawn, anti - social and, to a degree "misogynistic" for having to supplicate to women through looks money and status. Not to mention it is a waste of time. Life is too short to waste time on insecurities.

13. They are too focus on looks and they confused “looks” with “attraction”.

14. They substituted seduction material with weird virgin theories. The problem with intellectually masturbating virgin theories is that the real relevance of a particular fact or concept in these cases is only apparent only after that fact has become known. Before consistent success with sex, the idea of learning to game/pick-up women has been dismissed because of a misperception of irrelevance. Accordingly, the information seeker is trapped in a PARADOX and fails to learn what he or she really needs to know, and can be caught in a kind of intellectual blind spot -- which is exactly what is happening to the virgins in PUAhate.

15. PUAhaters “FAIL” in differentiating truth from exaggeration.

16. Major time-wasters. They wasted potential opportunity cost; time, money and effort in creating a website for bashing. We are here to enjoy life and feel happy. Hating is a denial of our purpose of existence.

17. Attraction is too complex to condense to a theory. All the memories of the stuff they’ve read have cause them to "PAUSE" and think a lot about what to say.

Conclusion: They are so deep in shit that they are beyond help plus most of them are mainly just trolls and/or covert online marketers with a hidden agenda.

And they couldn't stop talking about ‘effing LOOKs. It sounded so retarded.

There were some threads that were so ridiculous so…
I interrupted them when they were intellectually masturbating about some "LMS virgin theory" or some shit. I said "holy FUCK man. What you just described is NORMAL human socialization. It’s what NORMAL FUCKING PEOPLE DO. Just fucking approached and socialize. You are getting stuck thinking about all this shit and trying to make it a formula"
But the retarded twats carried on with their technical bullshit.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:59 pm 
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Can we all just stop hating each other? I read some of those threads at puahate (the website). I can't believe someone is so messed up that they actually waste time writing about how much they hate someone. It's such an unproductive and backwards thing to do.

Hey - I'm just doing me. People can hate me but at the end of the day that's their problem to deal with. Everyone should be free to do what they want and leave other people the hell alone.

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They actually have a forum to get mad at other forums.

They are a bunch of faggots.

End of Story.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:41 pm 
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There are a few insecure men on here who for some reason feel threatened by PUAHate and decide to hate them back, but I think most of us are reasonable enough to simply ignore them and legitimately not be bothered by them at all. I really don't see what the big deal is. Insecure people hate on each other all the time, and that's what makes the internet go 'round.

I do realize that much of the content posted on PUAHate is not worth paying attention to, to say the least, but they do express some sobering concerns of how some of the marketing within the PUA industry has gotten out of hand. They have their place, I suppose.

For example, I remember reading a thread on there about how the marketing on many PUA's sales pages appeals far too much to patients of Asperger's Syndrome; pickup is not a suitable alternative to professional treatment since a lot of pickup material involves theoretically analyzing many social/sexual concepts. Mystery Method, for example, will exacerbate AS symptoms instead of actually helping the dude get laid.

All in all, though, that site is mostly just a troll trap. And, as anyone familiar with the internet can tell you, "don't feed the trolls." As soon as you give them your attention, they win. ;)

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Write as much as you'd like but, I highly doubt you will change others opinions.

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Jizza wrote:
They actually have a forum to get mad at other forums.

They are a bunch of faggots.

End of Story.


Good post.

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I saw that forum before I even came on this one and all I thought was "ffs, get a life"


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Well the idea of creating an entire forum dedicated to bashing the various aspects of the pickup community is a bit much.

But from what I've seen the forum seems to be composed of a lot of people who resent the unrealistic promises given out by the various schools of pickup, which to some degree has led to such a sentiment given that many of the "gurus" lead some to believe that no matter what you look like, with the right openers, routines, stories, dhv's you can get great looking women consistently and that's simply false.

So that site is simply a natural backlash against that hype.

I think a more realistic sales pitch by gurus would help, but that doesn't sell as well so we're left with the current situation.


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Tx930 wrote:
Well the idea of creating an entire forum dedicated to bashing the various aspects of the pickup community is a bit much.

But from what I've seen the forum seems to be composed of a lot of people who resent the unrealistic promises given out by the various schools of pickup, which to some degree has led to such a sentiment given that many of the "gurus" lead some to believe that no matter what you look like, with the right openers, routines, stories, dhv's you can get great looking women consistently and that's simply false.

So that site is simply a natural backlash against that hype.

I think a more realistic sales pitch by gurus would help, but that doesn't sell as well so we're left with the current situation.


Wow, a surprisingly level-headed comment in an otherwise ridiculous thread.

The site is primarily intended to reveal the scamming nature of the PUA business in general. It happens to attract trolls too, but a lot of people on there are legitimate. It's worth taking a look at your favourite PUA "gurus." You'd be surprised how many of them aren't legitimate at all.


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Because of this post i went there, is the funniest shit ever, funniest forum i have ever seen(reminds me of the chat when some of the good funny trolls here used to post), very entertaining i almost pee in my pants laughing, they may not get laid, but they have excellent sense of humor, and self amusement, they should use it for pick up... by the way, they do have some good articles(i posted a couple on the lounge) and real naturals that post there, is not that bad... Also i saw ross jeffies and aaron sleazy, and hank moody posting and getting into fights with the trolls.. Entertainment value priceless... The pity, loser, pointing finger marathon is sad to see, some dudes blaming their misery on pua, instead of looking at themselves in the mirror...Also the getting into some puas personal lives not cool at all, that is hitting under the belt. As much as they complain on how pua over exaggerate results, they over exaggerate the bad... The thing is some people just want instant results they do not want to put in the hard work that is required to make attracting/getting girls a super difficult process if you do not put the work, rewarding(the point were it becomes so easy that you can not believed how much work you put to get there)

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They seem very close minded.


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PurpleSmash wrote:
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it attract trolls.


I know who you are. stfu.

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skills360 wrote:
real naturals that post there


Your grammar reminds me of someone.

lol, at believing that the virgins in the puahate website are naturals. Maybe naturally INCELS?

and oh BTW, several pick up artist are lurking in puahate to save the misguided virgins.

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Thread locked because this discussion is starting to sound just as negative and troll-like as the shit on PUAHate.

Cheer up, Tiffany. Love a little.

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