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Pyrophoric
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 Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject: Text messaging |
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I was texting this HB 9.5 last night, and I threw in a few negs, little playful comments etc, but then she said "i dont get you" and i threw another playful neg at her about it, and she responded with "your a sneaky snake" and I was like well you seem to like it.
She never responded, what does that mean and what should I do? |
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duck
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IMO - txt is not the place for a neg. Neg's need to come off as smarmy. Emotion is almost impossible to convey in a txt.
Remember she can not hear tone of voice, body language or see you grinning when she reads the txt neg - there is not connection to you joking only a neg comment. Women respond to visual things much differently than men. they tend to be more auditory and tactile - thats why NLP and Kino are effective. Women are more intuitive than men and they get that from voice, touch, smell and to a lesser extent visual. Men not so much - we like the visual more than anything and can do just fine with that alone (porno mag) women need the whole package - (porno movie) |
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Mech
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| duck wrote: | IMO - txt is not the place for a neg. Neg's need to come off as smarmy. Emotion is almost impossible to convey in a txt.
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QFT. Same reason not to use negs on instant messengers -- sarcasm/cockyness does not come through easily in written language. One thing you can get away with is a little teasing -- unfortunately I don't know how to convey that I'm joking without resorting to smiley faces so I have just stopped. |
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Crush
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I personally try to avoid texting, with the exception of when I'm getting out logistics in a plan |
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Sovnarkom
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Ok Sms is not a PUA´s Way to communicate, fuck Mates Try to read The old material u could really learn many things about everything ur missing at Try Reading This:
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SouthernCross
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Pyrophoric YES you can be cocky funny in text messages, IM, and email. I do it a lot. Advatage of Texting and emailing is it gives you more time to think of something clever to say. I'm looking at the last part of your message to the girl "she responded with "your a sneaky snake" and I was like well you seem to like it"
I'm thinking you were the one who started the texting conversation with the girl in the first place (Correct?)
This girl could have had other things going on at the time and this last line----well you seem to like it----She was annoyed at that point
If she started the convo with you 1st saying that last line would have been fine.
Cocky and funny in texts work more effectively if the girl is interested to begin with. You'll know she's interested if she starts being cocky funny back. if something you type looks like a potential insult put a LOL at the end of it. Get the business over with and get the girl on the phone ASAP and arrange a meeting. Don't be texting back and forth for hours it shows you're not man enough to call and it can get boring if you dont know what you're doing |
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Wildcat78
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Buddy, I learned the hard way earlier this week that most PUA material that doesn't have a strict verbal base does not translate well through text. However I was suggested an article from The Official Pickup 101 Blog that really helped me out, heres the link.
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Read this, its golden in my opinion. |
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Suther
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| Sovnarkom wrote: | | Ok Sms is not a PUA´s Way to communicate, fuck |
Well maybe not on that side of the Atlantic ocean, but on this side, it's everybody's way to communicate... And has been for like 10 years.
That being said, I never make my first contact with txt. I always voice-call the first time. Calling is more "intimite"/personal, and the chick doesn't have so much time to think of an excuse to refuse your dating proposals. Also, you don't have to wonder whether she has received/read the txt yet or not...
But after the ice has been broken, txt messages are a convenient way to communicate. The downside is, it can be time-consuming. Sometimes txting can be like chatting/instant messaging, except a lot slower. |
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Mech
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| Suther wrote: | | Sovnarkom wrote: | | Ok Sms is not a PUA´s Way to communicate, fuck |
Well maybe not on that side of the Atlantic ocean, but on this side, it's everybody's way to communicate... And has been for like 10 years. |
... And therefore something a PUA would want to stay away from. Be the exception to the trend.
| Quote: | | But after the ice has been broken, txt messages are a convenient way to communicate. The downside is, it can be time-consuming. Sometimes txting can be like chatting/instant messaging, except a lot slower. |
Another downside is you can get into trouble if you have several women interested in you at the same time, all of whom want to have a conversation via txt.
I try to stick to some very direct teasing with txt messages, nothing more.
For example, one of my favorites:
"My friends and I just took a vote, you lost 4-2"
It doesn't make sense to a guy, but I'm telling you it's chick crack. It's a neg, a DHV and a very subtle IOI all in one.
You are demonstrating that
1) You are social, having a good time and surrounded by people who like you (social proof) - The DHV
2) You mentioned her in conversation and asked your friends' opinion about something relating to her - The subtle IOI
3) The fact that she lost "the vote" is ANOTHER DHV and an IOD
You can go wherever you want with that, a simple explanation you can use when she asks what the vote was on could be:
"I asked if they thought you were *trouble*, we think you are."
Two very important things you can notice about the two messages I have typed above are that they are both very short, and there is virtually no chance of coming off as rude/inconsiderate (note: these are totally seperate characteristics from being cocky/funny).
Negs like:
"Your hair looked nice last night, is it real?"
"I like the color of your teeth"
"You look really nice tonight, it must be the light"
etc.. etc..
are not a good idea when you remove body language from the equation.
Again, like I said before I try to stay away from using text messages as anything more than a means of extremely brief playful banter. You have to be the one to keep it under control because some girls are happy to send 50 messages a day and it sucks to be on the recieving end of that. |
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Suther
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| Mech wrote: | | Suther wrote: | | Sovnarkom wrote: | | Ok Sms is not a PUA´s Way to communicate, fuck |
Well maybe not on that side of the Atlantic ocean, but on this side, it's everybody's way to communicate... And has been for like 10 years. |
... And therefore something a PUA would want to stay away from. Be the exception to the trend. |
If I thought txting hurt my game, then of course I would stay away from it. But that's not the case. Txting is convenient. But like I said earlier, I avoid it at the beginning.
Also, it is just impossible to totally stay away from SMS. There is no excuse for not using SMS. You can minimize using it, but you can't just totally not use it at all, at least not in this country of mine. Everybody sends you SMS'es, whether you like it or not.
| Quote: | | Another downside is you can get into trouble if you have several women interested in you at the same time, all of whom want to have a conversation via txt. |
That's not a problem at all.. You can easily have multiple "conversations" going on.
Of course in my opinion prolonged "chatting" via SMS is not fun and I try to avoid it. Even with one person it can be time-consuming. But a few messages are ok.
What's really good in txting is that it's easier for you AND your target to be a little more flirtateus (..?) and daring than with voice-calls.. In fact many times it gets too far into "SMS-sex", which I think is not necessarily a good thing if it gets totally out of hand. If the girl is not very experienced, she might now be more scared to be with you in real life...  |
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I have observed what we call "a natural" who texts message his women alot...
Its a good neg to say this: (if a HB texts you)
When she texts you, call her on the phone...
Then say "you text good but why dont you just call, isnt it easier?" |
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Suther
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Obviously the communication culture is different in different countries and regions, so it's pretty pointless for me to argue about this matter with Americans...
Txting culture in the States is still in its "infancy" (relatively speaking), so obviously it's easier to manage without it there than here in Europe. |
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Mech
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| Suther wrote: | | Quote: | | Another downside is you can get into trouble if you have several women interested in you at the same time, all of whom want to have a conversation via txt. |
That's not a problem at all.. You can easily have multiple "conversations" going on.
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What I mean is, I don't feel like spending an hour of my day punching keys on my cellphone. It's an inefficient, impersonal method of conversing. I'm not saying that it should not be used at all, but there are some serious problems involved with communicating via written word. For example, how the hell do you calibrate? Maybe this is a flaw in my game, but I'm so used to getting my best information/feedback from body language and tonality (as we all know what women say and what they mean are often two different things) that I feel crippled communicating without it.
Maybe it's something I'll have to get used to, but until then I'll always push for phone calls/voicemails over text messaging. |
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Suther
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There are downsides and upsides in both communication methods.
It's not either/or -situation... SMS-messages are suitable in some circuimstances and voice-calls in other. |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: |
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in my experience wich happened today DONT NEG ONLINE or TEXT MSG
i screwed up like this ive aranged a date and placed a very wrong neg on msn just after we have set up the date
i mostly go out with womans a lot prettier but you have a good personallity so ill go with it
this was clearly out of bounds she got raged told me to fuck off never call her again and blocked my msn (OOPS)
but hey its all about TRIAL AND ERROR right? no tears |
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