Lads,

Meeting with the two best PUAs I know last night, and one other PUA - I was feeling just a tad nervous; the bar was set so high. We hadn't seen each others' styles in a while and expectations were high (not always the best idea!). But as soon as we started opening sets on the street, all went down smooth.

And so after an enjoyable night, I wanted to share with you some street game tips. I've opened more sets on the street than any other venue. Just passers by, anywhere, any time. There is a whole load of tips for strategy and game. But I want to just wack down some of the more 'interesting' or 'exotic' tips..........enjoy...

1. Earphones. Often you'll see a girl walking with earphones in her ears. Contrary to what you might naturally think, these girls are great to approach! Why? The music has put them in an altered state of mind, which usually reduces bitch shield. Furthermore, the state change is enough to make them focus their full attention to you. Just the very act of taking out their ear phones builds massive compliance!

2. Invest a lot of energy in stopping the set, even if it appears like DLV. You simply cannot close a set that is not in the right state, on the move, or that does not have their full attention on you. Oftentimes you'll get a girl or a set walking very fast. You need to dramatically halt them verbally and non-verbally. Or a big laughing high energy set; come in high energy and get full attention on you. Stop the set before you start talking.

3. Pace before you lead. Too many people make the mistake of opening with an opener. In these situations, it is better to open by pacing their reality because it makes them feel more comfortable and builds rapport. For example, I met a girl last night that walked out of a bar and shouted "Fucking SHIT!" To herself. As she brushed by me I said, "Hey, stop, hold on a second, sorry to interrupt...wow you seem kinda angry...etc". When I said that she seemed angry, she actually smiled, almost chuckled a bit - and that was when I knew I could lock in. Leading on from this, remember not to come in 'high energy' to every set. Match their state instead.

4. Transition through fractionation. I often open by asking directions to somewhere. Then I will interrupt myself and open a new thread, usually something direct or complimentary about them. Then I will interrupt myself again and revert to asking for directions. And then back to the compliment. Etc etc. Using this structure you can have a conversation, glean information and build rapport. It also increases her propensity to accept your direct comments/compliments.

5. To continue after the opener, find a REAL reason for her to stay. This means you have to connect to her; why should she stay and talk to you? She needs a real reason to do this. To begin with, yeah, she will stay for your opener, maybe you are a bit fun. After that, she needs a real reason; either you: a) find a commonality, b) go direct and express interest, or at least allow her to expect an outcome from your interaction. Those are the two reasons. Many guys fall because they don't express interest at some level. Don't be afraid to IOI.

6. Use maximum information. OPEN YOUR EYES and notice what she is wearing, any stains on her clothing - what could that suggest about her - which direction she came from and where she is walking. Use this information to talk to her, either in normal conversation, a cold read, a compliment or question.

7. Where possible, make eye contact before opening. 'Naturals' do this very well. It also lowers bitch shield because you are playing the ritual; they feel that there is a reason you are approaching and that they have already invested a little in the interaction.

I'll leave it there for now. Enjoy

x

I think this is the best part of advice given. Because I do this.

And because I open a large majority of people by looking at them with a familiar smile. They often 'open' me.




A little bit of extra advice on conversations that I think would help to serve this post well is...

Conversations that are stuck in the present, go nowhere.

You should move them onto past or future, else once your point has been made or objective been reached (like opinion/situational/compliment opener), it will soon fizzle out unless you push the conversation into past of future.



Good post, bro.



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Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
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SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

Theese 2 things I believe will help me greatly

nice post, good tips

good post dude

I think this post applies to day game across the spectrum.

Nice post, always good to hear some natural points!

Another thing I can add is to always have a smile or a face that you rule the world. They always find it intriguing and a lot of times I get the second look.
Man, can you elaborate on that? you mean like having a plane conversation stuff about things they have done in the past or want do to in the future, or something else?

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Firstly, I'd like to say, good point about the smiling, do this, and catch+hold eye contact with people, and they will likely 'open' you in some way.


And yes, I'll gladly elaborate...

There are many ways to keep conversations moving... one way is taking up offers, more likely known as 'conversation threads'. The other is moving it into the past or future.

So example... compliment opener...

"OMG, I know this might sound a bit random, but I really love that dress on you!"

Now, staying stuck in the present would be continuing to talk about how nice the dress is, or talking about the dress, or making statements about it. The conversation will soon die out.

To ask about where she got it from, would be moving it into the past. Therefore having more to talk about and presenting more 'offers'.

To ask her what she's dressed for or where she's going would be moving it to the future.



Bit of a shitty example, but I hope it gets the point across...


Let me know if that answered your question or even if you got further questions.


Love

~Finesse

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Jav: "bashing chodes 24/7 ftw"
Slywalker: "Neg the bagel"
Slywalker: "I had a 1yr old GF when I was 19"
SS_Trunks:I asked her for an extra pen, confidently....

I meant to put 2 quotes in i dunno what happend though :\
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cheers guys

I feel that showing more direct interest in the begining helps. Only because in a bar or club people go there (typically) to meet people and drink and hav fun. Opening on the street is being set in an enviorment that is busy and active, and tyipically they might not think you are interested until u express it more. Great post thought mate!


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Great post man. Will definitely put your techniques to work!

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Yeah, I get what you are saying man. It's like multi-threading that you get more leads to continue the conversation with moving to the past and future.

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Thanks all, and for the input. Bear in mind when I posted this thread, it is not really for 'general' tips, even if they are good tips. I mean more the types of techniques that are really powerful but perhaps not that well known. I have one or two more:

8. As soon as you open and have their attention, move back a couple of steps. They will then bridge the gap and move towards you, so that they can hear you. This has massive implications in terms of the frame. Before you even say anything significant, she is walking towards you!

9. Turn her around from the direction she was walking in, if she was walking. So you open, then you can move to the side slightly so she has to twist her body. This breaks her from her previous rhythm so she is more inclined to listen to you.

10. When it's raining, it's a great time to sarge!! If you take an umbrella, you can offer 'lifts' to girls who need to get from A to B and are waiting at A. Or if they're getting wet you can help them out etc. Alternatively, if you are soaking wet, and another girl is soaking wet, it's easy game! Just make a joke out of it!

11. Carry some peacock-item around with you. A football or flowers are two great ideas. After your open they may well question you about it. If nothing else it adds dimensions to your perceived personality.

12. I don't know how doable this is for everyone but one thing I often do is move the girl from the position she is standing to somewhere else. Literally, I'll touch her shoulders and say "don't stand there, just don't stand there." Then she'll move (to where you motion her to go) and ask why. It's up to you what you say. Sometimes I just don't answer or tell her I'll tell her later, or I say there's a bad energy there in a jokey way. The point is, by doing this not only do you move her position to a more favourable one, you lock her in, AND you set the frame subconsciously so powerfully because you just commanded her to move! Teacher-learner frame, almost.

13. As with all sarging, have an outcome in mind. Start from the end. The reason why I am saying this for street game is that you should know your area really well - and if you don't - find out from opening sets. If you know your area well, it gives you options of where to insta-date and you are a step ahead of the game. You may be able to see where she was about to go for instance, or you may know what type of girl hands out on this street. I always know potential f-close locations like back alleys and grassy knolls etc.

Think it's all great so far, though I dispute 8.

I like Jugglers thumb rule for opening conversations. Generally speaking at the start you should always assume that you have to connect the dots first.

I call it the jamming phase, Being apporached can be a bit of an out of the bue big deal to some people, so it's important to buy them some time even if it's just the first 20 seconds or so for them to get emotionaly comfortable and on board with you.

It may pay to invest a little in the beginning and do what you can to maintain contact initially without giving any time for her to think "oh shit, he's hot, I'm not in the right state, I gotta go".

Kind of AA for girls getting apporached.

That's an interesting and true point. On paper, I agree with what you said.

In practice, I have found that this no. 8 method seems to work really well - even if it appears to defy the logic above.

I actually first learnt this technique in a really impromptu manner over a year ago - I was street sarging at around 10pm with a wing of mine, and he opened this girl though just naturally or accidentally took a few steps back. The girl actually came towards him, and I could clearly see that this increased her investment and therefore receptiveness and attraction to him (mostly subconscious, probably). I was absolutely gobsmacked at what a genius idea it was at the time, and having tested it out on numerous occasions afterwards, it works really well - when it does work. Of course there are occasions when the girl won't follow you that little bit. But you have to judge it/calibrate it like all things.

I personally would say that the things you said above, Fin, are absolutely correct, though do not necessarily refute this technique. For instance, you could balance out the fact that you are making her come to you by being verbally or otherwise non-verbally investing.

Still, the direct opposite of this technique is to keep walking towards her - something I would not advocate, even if it is following Juggler's rule of thumb (I love his stuff).

Even so, it's important that we fully are thinking in the same way with regards to what the technique actually is. Since there is interest, I'll briefly clarify it -

you don't just take a few steps back after opening her. You open, wait for her to turn to you or come in a bit, THEN move back a LITTLE. I might have been a bit misleading when I said 'a few steps'. You only want/need for her to physically come towards you a little. It's important to do it in this order as you are putting her on a subconscious, non-verbal command train; first she gives you her attention, THEN she moves towards you. Not the other way.

The other thing that made me particularly agree with what you said, is, the day before yesterday I was in town during the day and this girl (quite good looking) from about 10 meters away came jogging directly up to me (bear in mind this is in a busy crowd, so people are watching) in a hurried manner clearly wanting my attention.

As I said, I would have probably banged this girl if I approached her, but given that she approached me in such an abrupt manner, it didn't make me feel that comfortable and I actually felt like I got ASD! Anyway, turns out she was some charity-promoting woman.

One final dimension - because I think you can handle this, Fin. I actually view all pickup in terms of the flow of energy. Now, Juggler's rule here, as you say, means you should 'connect the dots' first.

I ask you, what are you trying to achieve here? Well, you are trying to achieve the connection of dots. Now, what if she connected the dots for you? This still achieves the same end goal, the same outcome as Juggler's rule. So by getting her to invest by moving towards you, i.e. connecting the dots, you are actually working in harmony with Juggler's rule. Only the frame is more favourable to you.

In summary: I agree with you - I think both what you said and this technique can work in conjunction with each other. This is probably a more advanced technique, and relatively minor in the grand scheme of things, though hey, we want to increase our percentages, right? .

Hello ,

This is really good stuff.

What exactly is your method of fractionation? Could you give me an example of what you say during this? I would like this to be broken down into fragments for me to understand how you are able to control the conversation and direct it.
I usually open women by asking for directions but I find it very hard to progress the conversation into something fun.

When you say observe and use all information at hand about the girl, could you give a list of possible cues to look out for and how I would reference it?

So far I have:

Height
Age
Voice (accent)
Accessories (distinctive)
Dress style
Predominant colour (of clothes)
shoes
Direction (environment)
Phone she has (IPHONE)

How should I go about finding commonalities? Do I just outright ask her who her favourite band is for example?

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