Hey guys,
I have no intention re-opening the debate whether pua-techniques should be used to steal girlfriends. I myself am slightly opposed to this fact, seeing I wouldn't want to have it done to me. Nonetheless I find myself in the position of the asshole stealing another guy's girl.. without even knowing.
To sum it up: I am a college student in a Belgian student city and last week we had some noise-complaints by the next door neighbours, so we went to see them to see what was the problem (nothing much in fact). But anyway being a nice neighbour and seeing one of the girl's next door was a HB9 I gave my number to text me if there were any other problems concerning the sound level. She complained about something quite fast, I made fun of her, used some C&F just to keep her on our good side (read: not calling the police
) and we started texting and flirting some more. So I told her I wanted to see her, she was a little hesitant at first but finally came over and we spent a few hours talking on my bed. Afterwards she left being already an hour late for an appointment.
That same night she left the city to go to her hometown and study for the exams (which are being held right now). Still texting, skyping, flirting, ... Things were looking more than good, IOI's all over the place. Yesterday evening she came back and invited me over. I went just for a short while seeing we both had exams in the morning. Sexual tension was in the air so we chatted a bit and then I went in for the K-close which was bound to happen... I THOUGHT. Sh
e turned away saying she didn't mention something. Something being the fact that she had a BF for over 2 years.
I was surprised to say the least but stayed calm and ignored it. This wasn't really a tactique, I just didn't know what to say. She talked about it, I cut her off and kissed her anyway. From there on we made out (even if she was a bit reluctant every time we began over again). And she was openly applying guilt that she "couldn't do this to him", "that he was to sweet", "what if he found out", ... but anyways we continued to make out for a bit. When it was getting to late she told me to go home, which I did seeing we both had to get up to take a final glance at our books.
Today after the exam I went over there again, talked a bit about the exams and went in for the kiss again when she immediately set she couldn't do it (whilst continuing to hold my hand etc). I didn't force and I was refreshed my mind with the Straw Man Routine
straw-man-technique-vt43374.html. I told her that her guy was probably a good guy who really treated her like a princess, he was really sweet (too sweet, she already mentioned) and would be always there waiting for her, knew all about her and trusted her completely (which he doesn't, she already mentioned), he was a certain choice and she should go for that to have a happy family in about 2 years (she's 20, so that isn't going to happen soon).
Afterwards I referred that I couldn't give her that certainty seeing I'll be living abroad for 6 months from september. And that anyways I'm too impulsive compared too him. I could only give her adventure (said something about a beach), a rock 'n roll lifestyle for a few months and really great sex (C&F). But that I didn't know whether that would be her kind of thing.
It started working, she started to talk back saying he was quite jealous and stuff. But at the same time she started saying: "maybe your right, I do want to have certainty and he's really a great guy. I don't want to hurt him"...
We started talking about other things but she came back on him multiple times remembering positive things. We we're still touching each other the whole time (mostly me with reaction from her side). I told her to take off her to so I could massage better her back, which she did. We talked but I was feeling like I was losing the hand so I started telling that I didn't believe she wanted certainty, that her heart was telling her to go on an adventure, ... She didn't agree, nor really refuse that fact. We started making out again and I tried to take off her clothes but she wouldn't let me. Then quite suddenly she told me it was time to go and she told that she wasn't even certain if sleeping with me was what she really wanted.
I hate the fact trying to take a guy's girl! But this girl really interests me a lot, she's feisty and intelligent. I can't go in a committed relationship because I'll be living abroad from september till february and I don't believe in relationships at distance (I've tried). This girl really got me good but I'm afraid she'll soon be texting to say she'll be going for the boyfriend.
Any opinions on how I've done? What to do with the aftermath of a Straw Man (when results aren't showing as you hope)? And maybe a position on what to do next?
CHAT