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Good that you mention that, because most schools of pickup now have this kind of questions and frame in some stage of the game.
For example, a common error of guys starting out is throwing qualification hoops without even listening to the answer like "Are you adventurous? Are you spontaneous? What have you going for you more than your looks?". They're doing this out of canned lines, and not out of genuine curiosity.
The correct way would be to throw a qualification hoop about something you're really interested to know about.
For example: If she has a fit body and you love some kind of sport you could say "You have a body of an athlete, what kind of sports are you into?". NOW LISTEN TO THE ANSWER. And now elaborate why you like it or not.
The good thing about the new model of Speed Seduction is exactly that, you come from a screening frame. You right away want to know if she's imaginative, otherwise she'll won't give you anything to work with and you'd better walk away anyway. It's like a gift you're giving her to experience these wonderful states and she'll only get that if she has something more going other the looks.
Or if you're using Swinggcat's prizing methods, you're the prize so she has to meet your standards and expectations, so you must show genuine interest in getting to know if she meets them.
Remember the structure of all these methods are guidelines, you have to show that you're a real person and treat her as a real person too.
Hey, man. Thanks for taking the time to read my post, it's good to see you understand it and see the point in it. You lately have seemed to improve my opinion on speed seduction, and thats real cool.
You make several good points in your post, and they remind me a few other observations about game I've made recently...
When being genuinely interest in people, when bringing a little joy to their life, adding a little excitement, enjoyable conversation, or sex, we are giving them something. We're doing a nice thing for them. However, I think a LOT of guys, especially with prizing, STILL manage to have a poor underlying frame to this.
They end up with the "Oh I am giving her the oppurtunity to meet me, she should be eternally grateful, and bow down and kiss my shoes to show her gratitude!!:evil:" A lot of people come from that very messed up mindset, and it's really not a good place to be coming from.
And that's where plenty of guys fall flat on their face with this shit. You should instead be giving her these opurtunities out of your own greatness, not expecting anything in return.
Not starting a conversation with her and feeling that she now somehow "owes" you something. That's really not how it works. When you start talking to girls expecting things from them, wanting to take from them, as if they owe you - you're interactions and relationships are going to suffer.
If you go over to people/girl(s), and communicate 'hey I'm really great, what are you going to do to show you deserve my time', you're going to look like a complete idiot, and people are NOT going to warm to(or like) you.
I should have perhaps started a seperate thread for that.
Hope people can learn something good from this post.
Much Love
~Finesse
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