So I've gone on two dates with this girl. She's about an HB8. Both dates I have waited with the bill sitting there to see if she will go for her wallet or even offer SOMEthing. She didn't even touch her wallet either time. I have the edge in everything, she's definitely more interested in me. I think the next time I will take her for a walk in the park and a f*** on her couch. If she wasn't interested I wouldn't bother calling or seeing her again.

So my question is does anybody have any advice on how I could have convinced her to touch her wallet on either of the dates?

"Do you think Im a free meal?"

Hmm, never thought of something like that. Let's expand. How about "you realize if I pay for this you are obligated to come home with me" or "So you're getting the next dinner then?" How do we get some humor in there so she learns her lesson without making her feel stupid?

Dalton wrote: Thats AFC if you ask me, "Nice prizes here! dont you think?" maybe.
I never take girls out to dinner (aint got the cash nywayz ;p). Walk in the park seems better, how about a picnic - bring some grilled chicken and tell her to get wine or w/e.

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I like what Charge said

"Do you think I'm a free meal?"

HAHA, not only it conveys humor, it also hints she's the one hitting on you (powerful), you've had other girls pay for you before (even if you haven't) and more than anything that YOU are in control

I usually have girls trying to pay for me, (In Starbucks or fast food restaurant, I never take them to expensive place, NEVER) or telling me I'll pay next time, or where do you wanna go, etc (also, since they towed my car way, they come pick me up to my house, take me and drop me back at my house, in other words, they live up to me)

What's the secret?

The meals, roses, chocolates, gifts, whatever it may be has to be done with the attitude of "This is just a gesture, a cute detail; not a way to get your love or open your legs, my personality can do that"

If you can accomplish that, you're in for a big change

If you read from any gurus, check all of the "Beliefs" part, they are important

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thanks, good recos. I have a whole new way of thinking to change, it's about time I did it. I'll let you know how it goes.

LoL. I never thought of this. I don't expect her to pay, so i never checked her reaction, but interesting. Ill have to notice the next time i go out with someone.

What's your goal?

1. To get her in bed.
2. To have her pay for a meal.

If you've done #2 several times without accomplishing #1, you're doing something wrong.

Having said that, having her meals paid for might be her "personal" culture. Also . . . what's her financial situation compared to yours?

I don't recommend embarrassing her with corny lines. Play the game the way you know how. If you want a relationship with this girl, stop taking her out to dinners and invite her over for a pizza and a movie and get this thing going.

Do simple stuff instead.

Instead of big dinners and shit, invite her home, tell her to bring wine, and put some cheese (some brie or other good cheese) maybe some caviar (it's not expensive, you get cheap variants that are just as good as the expensive kind for anyone who's not a connoisseur) some crackers and some fresh fruit like grapes, or peach, maybe some nuts, like cashew or walnuts...

Served elegantly, this is shit-loads better than the whole restaurant game.


Make her bring the wine... tell her to bring something nice.
(that way she'll be bringing the most expensive part of the whole spread, and she'll still feel you've done terrific.)

It's really easy, and it also gives her the impression of that you're really high-value.

I take girls out to upmarket places and buy expensive food/drink. Works fine for me.

But I'm a syrabite at heart so it's congruent.

don't be a guy. the world is full of guys.

be a man.

if you ask her out, you pay. if she asks you out, she pays.

very simple. and if you don't like paying a lot, do something inexpensive.

NOTHING closes up the pussy faster than a man who won't pay for a date he set up. seriously. you can try whatever you want, but you're only gonna make getting to sexy time way harder.

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In my opinion this isnt relevent 100% of the time, especially at HS age etc.
For example, a day2 i oftern do is
1)meet for coffee
2)walk round the shops
3)watch a movie
4)walk to the beach

Now, I normally say something like "look, I am going to pay for the coffee and movie tickets, you can get the popcorn at the movie" This way it works out about 50/50 and also because you pay for the first thing if she is the type to like a gentleman its satisfied but also gets rid of the "i just paying to win you over" impression AFC's give when the insist they pay for everything.

Obviously thats not to be done every date, but after day 3-4 you tend to pay for things evenly anyways in my experience.

Madals

If you have to do #2 in order to accomplish #1, you're doing something wrong. If her financial situation isn't as good as yours, sure you can treat her... but not before you have sex with her. You don't want her thinking you're paying for her meals or whatever to butter her up and make her like you more. That's what most men do... they take girls out and spend money on getting to know them when it's not necessary - it doesn't cost shit to get to know someone. The bottom line is, you want her to want sex with you because of who you are, not what you provide her with. If she gets bitchy because you won't pay for something, she is manipulative and not worth your time.

Dude if you take a girl out you pay....and if she takes you out she should pay. When you tell a girl you are taking her out then pay....if you dont you look like a cheap shit not an alpha lol If she asks you out then you should think that she is paying.

I would just tell her its her time to take you out....If she says no then say ok talk to you later....