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2nice2btrue
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:30 am    Post subject: seducing a good friend Reply with quote

Hi
I'm a newnie and I wanted to know...if it is possible to seduce a HB which you've known for a longer time because it'S a good friend of yours.. or if it is possible, that this HB for example doesn't think your are just a nice guy ... that you are more than that??

sry for my bad english and sry if this question is stupid...but it bothers me since ..hmm... ages ^^

thx 2n2bt
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. read about one-itis. search for it on the forum.

2. get other girls and make this one realize you are attractive and cool.

cheers.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whatif I show her the cold shoulder...and when we're 2gether in a club...I just ignore her and talk and do kino with others HB's and then go to the next one ... the whole thing infront of her.... so she can see that there is more about me...that could workperhaps.... ?!
okay now I'm going to have a look at the one-itis post

thx
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be very hard with her because you have already established yourself as a friend with no sexual interest. Almost 100% of the time when you try to make a move, you will get the LJBF speach. I'd tell you to keep her as a friend and only as a friend. She can introduce you to some of her hot friends and you can seduce them.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop reading this and go fuck twelve beautiful women. If she's still worth seducing, you may continue reading.

Seducing a friend is risky for two reasons. The first is that your are irrevocably fucking up the relationship you've established. The second is that she is likely to resist more than if you'd met her earlier today. Friend game is a hard game to play, and you should be prepared for rejection regardless of how well you perform.

That said, there are ways out of the "friend zone." Slow your game down a bit, and take your time with it, but remember that you ARE gaming her. Utilize the relate-reward cycle. When she does something you find sexy, let her know that you find it sexy. When she says something you can relate to on an emotional level, relate to it, respond, and register her response. Reward her response with light escalation. Kino, for example, can be used as a reward to slowly escalate over a matter of days or weeks. Start with light touching on the arm or knee. Knee is better, but can be tough to pull off smoothly. When you hug, hold on a moment longer than you normally would. When you're watching TV or movies on the couch, touch her leg with yours, then pull back suddenly. Put your arm around her when you're sitting together or walking. Keep moving it up a bit.

And then for god's sake, phase shift and hold it. Pick your time carefully, because you are either going to have this girl in bed, or you'll never talk to her again, and you have to be comfortable with both options. Your kino has to be tight. You have to have secured IOIs (tough when she's already given you so many earlier in the relationship; they're more subtle now). You have to have made SOIs. Then phase shift. Smell her hair or run your fingers through it. Touch her neck, face, hands, legs. Build some sexual tension and go for the close.

And if it backfires, don't say we didn't warn you.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: I get it Reply with quote

Mate, don't worry I'm in exactly the same position as you, don't ewven ask me for the solution.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aite.

No one in this community is going to encourage you to game your one-itis. It's just not something a PUA does. But if you MUST do it there are always ways to pull it off.

This is one way to do it:
Depending on where you normally meet up with the girl, you will have to adjust your game (ie. School, at work etc.) Let me tell you one thing though -- be prepared to use a LOT of effort in changing the mind of your target and be prepared to change yourself drastically. You will need to keep your future interactions with her next to zero with a "I am not interested in you" attitude. This means cutting her off for several weeks and getting more social interaction with OTHER people (males AND females). Whenever she is in your vicinity, it will be DHV, DHV, DHV. Always be surrounded by people. It will quickly become evident that you have changed and that there is some quality about you that your target is missing out on.

THe key points are to change yourself drastically and to cut her off completely for some time. If you have any AFC habits around her -- stop them immediately. Pretend she's not even there.

Then -- begin to game them subtly at first. Be her friend slowly. At this point you guys should have been seperated long enough for it to feel like you guys are practically strangers.

If you've been successful in changing yourself and social groups, along with getting good at game, the otucome should sway in your favor.

Again, I don't recommend doing this since it is a huge effort for ONE girl. But, hey, if you just NEED to do it, shoot for it.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saros wrote:
Aite.

No one in this community is going to encourage you to game your one-itis. It's just not something a PUA does. But if you MUST do it there are always ways to pull it off.

This is one way to do it:
Depending on where you normally meet up with the girl, you will have to adjust your game (ie. School, at work etc.) Let me tell you one thing though -- be prepared to use a LOT of effort in changing the mind of your target and be prepared to change yourself drastically. You will need to keep your future interactions with her next to zero with a "I am not interested in you" attitude. This means cutting her off for several weeks and getting more social interaction with OTHER people (males AND females). Whenever she is in your vicinity, it will be DHV, DHV, DHV. Always be surrounded by people. It will quickly become evident that you have changed and that there is some quality about you that your target is missing out on.

THe key points are to change yourself drastically and to cut her off completely for some time. If you have any AFC habits around her -- stop them immediately. Pretend she's not even there.

Then -- begin to game them subtly at first. Be her friend slowly. At this point you guys should have been seperated long enough for it to feel like you guys are practically strangers.

If you've been successful in changing yourself and social groups, along with getting good at game, the otucome should sway in your favor.

Again, I don't recommend doing this since it is a huge effort for ONE girl. But, hey, if you just NEED to do it, shoot for it.



One bad thing about this is that you might start liking more and more the girl , and if things doesnt work out well it will be bad.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xfman is correct. That's why one-itis is not encouraged; there are just too many unfavorable things that can happen. If you game a new girl, it's like starting from a clean slate.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saros wrote:
If you game a new girl, it's like starting from a clean slate.



Correct , She doesnt know about your AFC past Laughing
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