second opener

penbird44 · Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:19 am Post subject: second opener

hi guys i got a question what do you do after an opener i mean i use most of the time this
me:hey what do you think of my hat do you like it or what cause i got a friend who thinks is weird
hb:bla bla
me:uhh... ok thanks bye
the thing is i dont know what to do after i get the opninion on something secon opener? or what?
thanks in advance
mau

ph1ntch · Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:35 pm Post subject:

First, I would say thats a bad opener... Its entirely too situational... Second, its an opener... You know the expression you never get a second chance to make a first impression? Its true with openers. The purpose of an opener is to spur the conversation and let it flow naturally... But this is only like my 3rd post so take it for what its worth.

penbird44 · Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:57 am Post subject:

ok, thanks man, so what do you recomend?, the thing is i kind of get stuck
me:hey guys i need a female opinion on something ....
hb:well bla bla bla
the thing is i dont know what to say next how to flow with routines can someone give like an example?
thanks a lot

negsta · Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:50 am Post subject:

Observational Transition
God, you guys look like good friends, have you ever done the best friends test.
I think it's obvious where you go from there.
All you have to do is notice something and laugh about it. If they explode, then they have no sense of humor ad weren't worth it anyway.

penbird44 · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:29 am Post subject:

thanks ythats great!
do you have anyother ones?
Very Happy

EvoJ · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject:

there are thousands of different things to say after an opener.

Look where you are. She is there too, talk about it. Look what she is wearing... mention how normally people don't go for that type of thing.

You open with her opinion on your hat... you say about the last opinion you got of it. Like so..

You: "Opinion, hat ... now blah" (hat opener)
HB: "Its okay I guess."
You: "Yeah, that girl over there said she was alright as well. Ya see, I am trying to break out a bit from all these punks who aren't willing to show there inner fun-guy and so I picked this one up. I wasn't quite sure if it was ... THE one... so I thought I would get peoples opinions. Like, what type of hat can you really See me in?"
HB: "Oh blah blah"
You: "Yeah I tried one of those on but they all had that wierd brim etc blah... so I tried on blah blah"

Look, the point is... You can go anywhere from pretty much any opener. Just make it interesting enough to keep her attention and build some attraction.

EvoJ

penbird44 · Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:28 am Post subject:

thanks a lot dovj!

penbird44 · Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:29 am Post subject:

lol sorry thanks lot evoj!

EvoJ · Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject:

It's all good and Your welcome. lol.

Dovj

penbird44 · Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject:

shit! ok i think im a no fix afc, i was at this party yesterday and it was full of freakin oportuinities, i am sick of feelin wrong, i just broke up with my girlfriend and she has turned into a fuckin coke-head slot i mean a fuckin big slot and im sick of dreaming with her and another guy and i havent got anything since we broke up :C,i keep getting knots on my stomach!,id dont know if anyone has been in my kind of situation but if really fucckin hurts and sucks!, i want to become a pua HELP!,
ok so the problem is i still dont know what to say! i know i most be lost!
here is the story: it was a party and everybody was wearing hats because it was a hat party so i went to the girls:
me:(body language pointing somewhere else) why the fuck is everybody wearing hats?
girl:because is an all hats party
me:(run out of things to say ) oh... ok thanks bye (the thing is i dont know how to transition from the opener to the cube or whatever other routine or a magic trick or something)
should i ask for her names right away? :S

could somebody post an example of a full pick up?, well i from the opener to the comfort building

thanks a lot!

Born2Play · Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject:

Alright I had the same problem. Me an my girl of along time broke up and it ended bad and I was hit with one-itus and I couldnt eat sleep had the same stomach problems i even tried to think of her with other guys to kill my feelings. THen I went afc and talked to her and she told me to move on it pissed me off so I went out last night first time sarge and decided to open with what do i do about an ex that wont leave me alone and wants to bone still but i dont want that etc etc. It was easy I talked to lotsa people only got one close but it was my first night and im trlling you you will get over this girl.

When you have this with a girl you have to grieve it out. First step is denial. You just wait to wake up. Then you try to bargin, which is a bad idea. I forget whats after that but then you get depressed. Like, you dont want to do anything with your life depressed. Then the good stages start to come. You feel anger and other strong emotion then resolution and thats what will really motavate you to be a PUA. Especially if in the past you had bad luck which is why i think you get one-itus becuase you like the fact that she liked you. I knew this girl wasnt right for me but I didnt want to let her go. I cant say you will even get over her, but you will feel better and I must say that even though I only closed one number last night outta maybe 5 it felt pretty awsome to talk to those random hot girls that normally wouldnt give me a second look, so that for me was enough to reinforce getting over the girl, read everything you can and practice practice...I cannot wait to go out tonight

penbird44 · Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject:

thankyou for your pòst born2play, its good to hear someon e that has been in the same situation, im just afraid that im go9ng to fell this way for a looong time and it sucks, i dont wanna go to sleep because 3 out of five days i dream with her in a night club doing coke and doing another guy(s) and it sucks, so im keeping my head on other things.

thanks again

Born2Play · Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject:

Well that never quite happened to me, but yea just get out there and know she doesnt matter anymore. Im going to assume you lost your V-card to this girl and thats why the images hurt so much but look at this way, its now her loss. Fuck her man, it sounds harsh and I hated when people said that to me becuase I still love her and all that shit but hey its now her loss and its time to show yourself that its true and those dreams will go away once you get over the fact that she took a piece of you.

zephyr · Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:07 am Post subject:

SlickRick · Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:17 am Post subject:

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