So... I often find myself in tough situations;

A few weeks ago I went out on a date with a girl I met online, only to sit around in front of the door girl (person at front that seats you at the restaurant) who was an 8+. Of course my date was only about a 4. I chatted the 8 up a little before my date arrived, but of course I didn't want to blow myself out in case my date was actually hot. I thought about trying to pick the 8 up after eating, but I said screw it. Should I go back? I have no problems coming up with stuff to say.

Yesterday I went out with a girl I know from work, and I chatted up again another door girl (7) a little before my friend got there. I got us a table and sat down. While eating, the 7 passed several times. We had eye sex every damn time she passed my table. Unfortunately, I ordered one glass of wine and since I never drink, I ended up a little tipsy. On top of that I was tired, so my mojo was just in the dumps. On the way out I just said "Have a good night" to the door girl. My mental state was so poor I wasn't able to come up with anything else ... I have an easy in with her if I go back; "I enjoyed our staring contest yesterday and was wondering if we could continue elsewhere..."

There are many logistical issues in these door girls (like customers, they have to work, etc) it makes it hard to demonstrate enough value, because you have to invest at least a good 5 minutes and the chances of interruption are high.

If I were a better PUA, I would obviously not let these opportunities pass. But in both scenarios I'm doing something else (eating/date) and my mojo was low and I tell myself forget it. Does anyone have recommendations or frequently do second pass approaches? I know PUA science says approach sooner .... but my experience tells me second passes can be done.

Easy, yes, go back.

One thing to keep in mind; go back with another reason than just to get the girl... because if you say:
"I enjoyed our staring contest yesterday and was wondering if we could continue elsewhere..."
and she responds with:
"What staring contest?"

You don't want to have over-invested by showing up JUST to talk to her... it shows her you have nothing else going on. Up to you though, if you feel the connection was strong enough for her to remember you, go direct.

Next time take a little bit of effort to establish some communication on a personal level, it helps a lot since most girls in the service industry are used to running on autopilot... if you do something to break her out of that zone she will remember you, guaranteed.

Cheers.

Very very good pointers..

Easy to solve with "I was in the neighborhood, and thought I'd stop by..." (anchoring!!!)

Should I try to pull her outside to talk in private or should I try in front of her co workers? I was thinking if I could get her outside it'd be best! Seems like it might be a big hoop to get her through initially

I believe you should do exactly what you want and if you think it will work it should. It sure is better than nothing. The point here is your trying to let her know your interested and see if shes interested back. So cut the crap and get streight to it, who knows, she might want you too. Good luck. Girls appriciate being desired by a man and have him go out of his way for what he wants. Even if you fail, she will respect you for it

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