A pick-up-artist in my class is trying to seduce my girlfriend He is good-looking and to put it briefly; he knows how to play this love-game. I know he is a PUA, because I overheard him talking about "the game" and "wingmans on parties" a few days ago.

I moved in with my gf a few months ago and we have been together for 1,5 year. The "spark" and "honey-moon-period" isn´t as it was in the start, obviously, and we are only 20 years old both of us... you get the point. Our sex-life has decreased after school start too (studying economy, takes alot of time), so we can have sex 1-2 times a week without it being a problem. I get her off, she gets me off. Simple as. I think we see eachother too much as well... we live together, is in the same class and have a small social-circle due to moving to another city. In other words, I think we spend too many hours together (not healthy).

Apart from this, there is this PUA I mentioned. He has basically turned out to be a "freash breath" in her life it seems. He is new and she doesn´t know him to well (compared to me, the guy she has been with for 1,5 years). He really knows how to speak and flirt with people, and I have understood that it is my girlfriend he´s after. (Sometimes I would love to have an ugly girlfriend so no boys would try her, but that would be boring... so nevermind. Better with a beatiful one). Anyways, she has started to talk alot to him during classes and she has that "im in love" expression on her face when talking to him. I know her.

SO WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?

I guess all guys with girlfriends experience this from time to time. The famous orbiter. I have made a plan and I want you to share your opinion on it, and maybe add your recommendation too ...

- I WILL NOT SHOW SIGNS OF JEALOUSY. I have managed to "not care" so far and intend to keep doing this. I will let her speak as much as she wants with him and not tell her to stay away from the bloke. Why? Because I would rather catch her than make her hide things behind my back (like talking to him on facebook when I am in another room etc).
- I WILL FLIRT WITH OTHER GIRLS? Is this a good or bad idea? My game is there so if I want to, this would be a simple task. Opinions please.
- I WILL GIVE HER MORE ALONE-TIME! Not being with her 24/7 might be a good idea, so I am going to do something about this.

This will be my "case study." Ill try to update once in a while. Please add comments.

- Consistence

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Yeah you are doing right doesnt showing any signs of jealous, being a PUA is all about confidence, and dont overthink if she going to cheat or not, just go with the flow., sometimes when we talking about our "one-itis" alot changes(we do AFC stuffs) but keep doing what you are doing.

Yeah ofc flirt with other girls what the problem, isnt she flirting with that guy?So do the same, she proabably take you for granted, so try and take that from her, giving jealousy as we know is a powerfull feeling for a girl to feel and maybe she will evaluate her situation. Just dont rub that in her face do exaclty the same way she is doing.

Dont spend so much time with her, spending too much time with a girl becomes boring for both, so the best is having different things to do.so she can miss you. And when you hang out do things differnet that you dont normally do. Good Luck

I know this is a little out there, but have you considered "unconventional" relationship practices? Maybe you can talk to your girlfriend about open relationships or even polyamory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyamory

The whole worrying-about-cheating-and-feeling-jealous thing just isn't my cup of tea. If my girlfriend even considered the possibility of fucking other dudes, I'd want to have an open relationship with her. Too bad she's not keen on the idea of having sex with anyone other than me, though

There's a big difference between not showing signs of jealousy and not FEELING jealousy. Work out your insecurities so you'll realize that there's no reason to feel jealous. This isn't really about your girlfriend; it's about you.

It is impossible not to feel jealousy after 1,5 year.
Your reaction is normal , but the reasons for it might be amplified by your emotions.
What I'd do,when she's talking to that guy,go meet him.Yes,and kiss her in front of him.

I agree with Carlos. If my long term ex bf had followed this attitude I wouldn't have left him.

But if he had suggested me an open relationship then I would have understood that he is not into me any more so I would move on 100% to the new guy without feeling that I miss my ex.

No way, you should meet him and make your presence know but dont try and make a jealouss thing. Believe me kissing her will only make a challenge for him and doing the " Fuck of she is mine" wont work neither to him or her, believe me she will be mad if you do that and knowing also you are feeling jealousy. After that is train wreck but is my opinion

Impossible? Really?
It is impossible to travel faster than the speed of light.
It is impossible for two objects to occupy the same place at the same time
It is impossible to go backwards in time.

However,
It is PERFECTLY POSSIBLE to not feel jealousy. You have free will, and the only emotions people "make" you feel are the ones you ALLOW YOURSELF to feel.

One of my girls was talking about meeting some dude for dinner the other day, and then later she mentioned meeting up with him sunday to see a movie or something. I was like ok cool. And she was stunned enough to say "so...you really don't care?"

She was trying to make me jealous because that's what girls do, and I just didn't react. Frankly I don't consider the guy a threat, and if she does see him then she's free to do whatever the fuck she wants when we're not together and I've explained it's not exclusive and I sure as hell fuck other chicks when she's not there. It's a two way street and that's fine with me.

The more you try to control a woman and make her "yours" the more she will feel smothered and want to escape. If you let her go off and try new and different things, she'll come back to you out of her own free will because she's more emotionally attached to you, even if she's physically attracted to the new guy temporarily. Plus this should give you impetus to make sure you're the best lover she's ever had

My suggestion is to explore the possibility of an open relationship, NOT live together, and go out and start making some more friends, male and female, to enrich your social and romantic life. I made a mistake I'd like to take back in university by living with the same girl for 4 years and never really having the full range of social experiences. Don't waste your 20s doing that!

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Lets face the facts here. You got to understand you're both barely 20 yrs old you haven't really had much of chance to be on your own of course her eyes are going to wander around.

You have to think about the guys she exposed to just "you mostly (don't take offense but you're probably pretty predictable in her eyes). When this other guy pops up he's something new and exciting.

You say your in new town and have a small social circle do you guys go out to socialize? Or type the who likes to just stay in?

You need to get your girl dressed up from time to time take her out let her experience new scenery, people, places or she will get bored.

Unless she's actually going over this guys place or having secret meetings with him I dont see a reason to worry

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Meh, I let my girl know about PUA. It's so much easier. She can tell when a guy just wants to sleep with her and what not(even when it's less obvious like the PUA the OP is talking about). Cuz if she knows, and does it anyways then she's obviously not looking to be exclusive.

Wow... Quite an interesting group of opinions here...

I have to laugh at one thing though: Even your username hints at your problem "Consistence" .... Quit doing the same routine over and over again or your girl WILL get bored and start wandering...

Good Luck... Im interested to see how this one turns out...

There is always a fear of what if another PUA tries the shit that worked with my gf that did with me. But do what you have also learned in being a PUA, learn to AMOG him, learn to cockblock him. Now thats all inner game shit that he will have to deal with, and most PUA's have just a thin layer of outer game and think they can get by with that, and see if he can deal with all the AMOG tactics etc, and has a strong inner game, thats when you have a challenge against you. But what ever you do, dont confront him about the game because he may then tell your girl if he does speak to her alot, and things will just get messy between you and her after that.

Goodluck

Where there is smoke, there is fire......
So you better choose the role YOU wanna play into this.....
Wanna be the ash....the water....or the wind blowing the fire...
I hope you choose the third...
Currently seems like you see the first signs of smoke and you are ready to throw water into this. And if there is no fire yet, the only you will manage ending up is a slap on your face for a stupid reaction.

First of all you are still 20. Either this you got there last or not...for me it is a great opportunity you learn a bit more on how you play this game too. Rather than playing the firefighter ....better become you the one blowing the wind into the right direction...and you then get the control....
Otherwise..there will be plenty other PUA's..that will know when put the fire on....

Make the best out of this challenge..

The game is more of the philosophical dilemma if the chicken did the egg or the egg the chicken....
But dont think too much...You can work both directions through...
Will tell you what I mean in a while..sharing a similar experience few years ago..

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It was the time I felt I will settle down a bit....and finally got myself into a relationship.
It didnt took long till the first PUA made his approach....
And there was the first intriguing challenge...
How do I go against my own game??

There it comes then....
The dual seduction....

It is the moment you realize that the challenge is dual. You not only have to eliminate the PUA, but you also need to seduce your gf again...and show your capacity once again.

Thus...you have to play in two games the same time...
And why really to bother playing both apart?
Lets bring them close together..

What I did then...was to play more than cool, open and friendly, so not to alert anyone. The guy had only tried to make his first attempt approaching....while I openly approached him..and thrown the bet.

Talking to my gf...said the guy is cool....and should invite him out with us...

And here is the trap..


The majority of newcomer PUA's have the usual folus problem. They want to play...no matter what. So give them too many targets and there is the challenge. If they are smart enough they will keep themselves into their first choice....Thus my gf. But if you make this more intriguing for them...they will not resist at all!

Now you set the ground.
That means...not an open space, crowded that he may play covered.
A dinner table, a bar, or something like this...would be a great trap.

I brought few nice female friends....and a few average desperate men that would carelessly go for those girls.
And there is the challenge

If he will go for this....then the challenge is to let him play the game while you change the speed and the direction of the play...keeping the group focused on you. You move the game from your gf into the group.
If he is not a smart PUA he will try to play multiple targets..and reveal himself....if not he will get another target to play.
But you will also have to play the game in the group..
This will bring your value up, and alert your gf....on why everyone goes around you...If you play this in a smart way ....and move out the right moment...then he will find himself ...naked.
You have presented your capacity, while the same time you keep your eye in your gf.....getting the fire where you want it.

Then....you let him play against the average men, to get the girls....but since trapped in the table he cannot move the scene elsewhere.

Warning: If you dont play smart....presenting your value in the group...then he will be the winner. He will be the one all girls will look for....plus your gf.

The purpose is to trap him and present him as a hungry PUA.....rather than a smart covered like you should be...

Then while the play is on....YOU change the scheme taking your gf..out of there....
It is the right time to surprise a bit....
bring the spirit back...
and change speeds..
So make the plan before. Move into another place...where you have planned before...where you know there are other pretty girls...and make you the center point where now she has to try seduce you again....
You have presented your capacity in the previous group...let the PUA there alone..and now you are into another place...where YOU are the target...and SHE has to eliminate the enemies..

In her mind the other guy ...is another hungry player that lost sign...
While in YOU are her PLAYER....


Once again I will tell you that you guys are just 20...so...take this as a good challenge to play for and see how it works.

It worked for me....

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Just have to bump this one...

Read my other post "this forum changed my life"

She kissed this guy

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As every one faces this type of problem in their life.I am a professional expert PUA.
I would like to suggest you that, please give time to your relationship. Do not loose your confidence.Give your girlfriend more time. And one important thing is that do not show that guy that your are too much worry, even to your girlfriend also. Talk to her and make her feel that you do not like her to chat with that guy silently.If you have more query then please get help from my website also.

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