problems with - go out and DO IT

lnacid · Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:40 pm Post subject: problems with - go out and DO IT

hello,

i read a lot about Pick-Up made some little experiences but now is time to go out and DO IT!!!

Normally i went out with my friends, but i think when i have to work on my Game its better to let them at home...

But where i will start.. Weekend? at clubs? Just when every AFC went out to bore the girls?

Have you tips where i could start...

tell me about your first steps

M · Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:57 am Post subject:

Hi Inacid,

I agree, man. Time in the battlefield is key.

When I started out, I started out in clubs, but man, I got chewed up and spit out and booed off stage. Then something interesting happened. I started finding out that my game at house parties, weddings, birthdays, and similar venues got 10x stronger because of the time I spent in clubs.

This weekend, I have 3 days with 3 separate HB's. I met them all at places like house parties, weddings, birthdays, etc., But I never shy away from sarging in the clubs although I probably crash and burn out more than anybody in that venue. It's a great place to calibrate your skills and thicken your skin, but I don't have as much success in clubs as I'd like to.

Respectfully,

M

yopon · Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:09 am Post subject: clubs

M,

glad to hear that- I'm with you. I started off mainly in clubs only- then I realized when the realationship of guys to girls was out of favor, not to mention the hot girls being approached every other minute and blowing guys off.
I just make it a point now to use to it help my game outside of the clubs- I just make sure the things I say will be completely different from everyone else- at least she will remember me this way- I read a book on comedy, and one of the ways to create laughter and build rapport is to surpise your audience.
Once she has laughed a few times I either get the number or try to get her to another location, but only spend a few minutes talking, tops.
It definately doesn't work all the time, but since caring less about how well I do at some clubs it makes it much easier in any other setting to approach

Yopon

Slai · Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:05 am Post subject:

I guess I started doing cold approaches just... anywhere. In line at the store, busstops/busses, on the street, in clubs, anywhere. Not just hot girls, but people in general, just to get into the right state of mind.

Now, if im in the right mood (which i admittedly aint 100% of the time), ill open like 20 sets one night at a club. On my bad days, its like 2.. And I always end up hating myself for all the missed opportunities and for having such a bad state of mind.

The only way to get better is to actually start doing it. Gather up some routines (if you like that), go out, TEST THEM OUT (and pay attention to what works and not, where you fail and why), then later on rethink, find improvements, then test THOSE out, and so forth. You cant improve without fieldwork, so you just have to get out and do it.

Im slightly drunk at the moment, so my apologies if this is totally useless.

Mister War · Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject:

This has been a problem for me as well. My buddies are all potheads or in relationships --I don't know ANYONE who is single right now-- and getting them to come out is a chore. I can maybe convince them to come out once a week but they aren't interested in talking to girls --they want to hang out which is cool but not good for sarging.

So I'm faced with having to sarge alone in nightclubs which seems a little frightening since I'd be going in with no social proof at all and no one to hang with.

So far, I've been working on my day-time game with limited results. My other problem is that hot girls are hard to come by in the winter. You see maybe only a couple worth going for all day.

Bah.

lnacid · Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject:

I'm right there with you.
I have a little problem.. have a stressfull job, so i have a problem with
daygame... and the night ther are only clubs..

You must know.. south tyrol is a little country in the mountains.. so we have only a few big clubs... i have the fear when i go out to crash&burn that after some weeks anyone know me.. Confused

what think you about.. no risk no fun?

Impact · Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:09 am Post subject:

A small advice for everyone here:

I started with day game, and i still do day game. The trick is to make your whole daily life revolve around pickup, so than it becomes natural.

For instance, your in a store and you want to get a genuine opinion difference between 2 brands of food! you ask a girl so on. Once you've done enough approaches than your confidence will gradually build. Listen up guys, we all have this fear! me included, this ridicules approach fear and the fear of being alone in a strange place. The only way to actually overcome this bullshit is open your first set. Than you will be fine for the rest of the night.

The trick with nightclubs is if you are solo sargent you may have to find a safe zone. That means going up to the nicest ugliest pair of people there, making your opener and than as your coasting around the club you can always come back to that safe zone and have a good time. What most people try to do is, approach a 2 set, and sometimes because they are scared and in a new environment with no one to watch their back, they freak out and their energy level sucks, so they approach nervous and the chicks boo them out, and their whole nite will suck.

PS: get the f out of your home and approach HB you maggots!

Just some thoughts

-impact

Element · Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:33 am Post subject:

lnacid · Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:57 am Post subject:

thanks impact for the very helpfull tipps, and i know that the only problem am i Laughing

i trow away my fear and do it.. for my own benefit!!!

Safe zone.. yes when you gou out with friends, them are your safe zone..
but your right when you can boild a safe zone you have a comfort evening, yust like when you went out with friends Cool

greaaattt idea

theslackpack · Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject:

Im glad you guys touched upon the subject of club game. Ive been meaning to write a critique for quite some time.

you see, clubs are what i call the frustration zone. guys want to hit on girl and girls want to be hit on but its awkward because a pick up precedent has been set.

You'll find that the music is too loud and the environment is hostile and when you see people copping off you feel isolated, that everyone is having fun and that, you are, well not.

The truth be told its usually the case, more times than not, that these people copping off or people that have already come in with someone they know that they have pre chosen to come with or just met - in a pub or bar. unlike us - they are not playing the stranger game.

these are people that you see around you such as the one girl and the group of guys. usually her dicking one of them around and them not really getting anywhere. it looks like they have got it pretty sussed but in actual fact they are friends - no more. There is the couple that are copping off that are in actual fact girlfriend/boyfriend and the group of girls teasing the guys on the dance floor that are being hit on by all sorts of strange guys but are leaving the premises alone. because they never really stray from their comfort zone. one that has been limited all along because of the precedent set.

I put it to you to practice in pubs and bars and not waste your time in clubs unless you have a target to go with that you have already chosen to go with or you have just met up with from a pub or bar and are instan tly dating. Stick to places that have a friendly local atmosphere, low music and a small precedent of pick up.

i think you will see from these posts that people are suffering similarly and that its the game that is at fault and not ourselves. okay sometimes there will be times when you cop off with an absolute stranger in a club but this is as rare as the sightr of a dodo. and its probably going to happen to your friend and not you.

places like shopping malls, libraries and book stores, mcdonalds and subway, bus stops and train stations are great for daytime game.
stick to these and you will not go wrong, your superior game will be noticed. pubs and bars are welcome but with a deft warning.

go out there and sarge happy people.

p.s gyms are the ones to watch out for too. they have a precedent set like clubs and only the hardened criminal will survive. im going to post something on gym game later when i get the time to.

Custom · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:21 am Post subject:

Very good info/ question from everyone...

Impact and TheSlackPack laid it out pretty good...

I stick with grocery stores, gyms, book stores, malls, and cafes...

I dunno I like classy birds...Hahaha...

But that opener about asking a bird about food does work...

One time a girl gave me an invite for dinner, but I had lost the number...

She was so cute too HB8 at best...

Good shit fellas I actually copied and pasted this whole section on note pad to re-read this in the morning...

lnacid · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:45 am Post subject:

thanks for your helpfull posts Wink

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