Sup guys I did the Ross Jeffries opener on a girl that ive known for a bit and did this because she straight up labelled me a "just friends" after everything we've been through.

Basically i opened up with the snack quiz and ended it with the paris hilton story. This got her really HOT and she started to text me the second i told i had to leave (false time constraint). What amazed me was the fact that she text me 2 minutes after i leave.

Ever since that night, i've been getting good morning text messages from her every day. For 9 days straight to be exact.. so i decide to meet up with her in the mall and she brings a girl whom i happen to know as well. The day shes been shit testing me and acting like a brat and really trying to gain so much attention. Like holy shit im a laid back guy. Now im really confused... is she shit testing me because she likes me or she just wants my attention to later throw me under the bus... most of the time i fought back with clever remarks...but shes really persistant..

whenever i talk back to her in a funny way she hits me LOL so is that an Indicator of Interest. I tried to experiment and just talk to the other girl and she always buds in and tries to take control of the conversation. We spent alot of time talking about her problems and issues shes facing during the day and what-not. Yeah i know im getting descriptive. I need help guys i wanna CONQUER this girl to prove to myself that I CAN get her....so please no ONE-gina comments..

one thing that stood out to me was that she told me that my shirt looks nice and like 20 minutes later i took off my leather jacket cause it was hot and she looks at her friend and says LOL did you notice why he took off the jacket?? implying that I am chasing her....

Seriously guys i dont know what to do to this chick.... she has alot of guys chasing her...i get this feeling she does like me. but what do you guys think!!

What are you asking here?

It sounds like she likes you, but you haven't really tried anything at all. Make a move, then report back.

sorry my question is what should i do now..what move should i make.. could you give me suggestions? like isolation and other tactics. your experianced....what should i do?

have sex with her.
there is so many topic's about how to isolate, kino, seduce, and so on.
Just keep in mind you are the prize and she want to have sex with you so bad.

dude im living in campus and she happens to visit the resisdence very frequently..she has lots of guy friends so should i use mystery tactics to isolate her away from attention then strike her when i win her friends over.

holy shit the ross jeffries snack quiz and paris hilton joke worked THAT well??!! Damn.

A question: did you just tell the paris hilton story or did you tell the whole three part joke? Also, did she find it funny? I've read all 3 of those jokes and only find them slightly amusing. I understand they serve a purpose aside from humour but I imagine that could be awkward if you tell them expecting her to laugh and get silence lol.


Anyways. If you want to escalate with her, attempt to isolate her on her next visit. Make sure you have a lot of kino right off the bat and eventually get her into your room, she's obviously attracted and with enough kino you can easily get a make-out at the very least.


Good luck!

Dude I opened up with snack quiz to the vacation thingy and check this out. i told her to imagine a place where she could do what ever wants that would not get back to the people knows. she replied with silence then i gave her a suggestion, " you know when i LET those THOUGHTS run through YOUR MIND...i can tell your an adventurous person. She agreed with me and i asked what she was thinking about and she said "i cant tell you because i dont want you to judge me". LOL i told the paris hilton joke after leting her talk and i sware to god she told me to stop telling her the story when i mentioned fucking....then i said Okay i wont tell you the story...then there was an awkward pause and she says "okay so are you gonna tell me the story" that told me IT WAS ON....


My problem is that...when shes with people she wants to be the center of attention...even if it means to throw me under the bus when ever the opportunity arises...what should i do....should i reply with same energy and be just as play full...i dont want to be reactive....

Damn your good with the NLP stuff lol!!! I gotta try that Paris Hilton thing!

I would reciprocate the same energy she's giving off. She sounds kind of hyperactive and wanting to be centre of attention, just keep negging her, especially when she's with other people. And when you've isolated her she probably won't be giving you such a hard time, and with enough kino+escalation, your in.

edit: yeah definitely don't be reactive, in a sense that - you don't want to come across as if your trying to 'get her back' you know what i mean? Just neg her in a playful way which shows you have a playful personality and can joke around.

interested in this joke snack routine-can anyone give me a link?

cameroon85 - download speed seduction 3.0 and listen to CDs 1 and 2 and thats basically what i did to the girl at the subway.

Acid604 - Yeah i understand NLP but i feel like shes kinda annoyed by me so i gotta try this stuff on her when we are alone...can you give me suggestions on how to improve the kino escalation..and basically closing...thats what i need help with!! Thanks alot man you really understand Mystery's method i could help you with the RJ patterns!!

Ok… I am extremely new to this community, but it seems to me that she might be trying to tool you.

With that being said, if you are still interested in trying to CONQUER, then you have to play hard ball!
One of the major rules is that you have to be willing to lose her in order to get her. If your game is as tight as you say it is, then you should be able to pull off the next move, MAKE HER JELOUS. Bring in a pivot that knows the situation and is going to be on your side. This is going to melt her brain at first and play on her ego. You’re now going to be the challenge that she has to CONQUER. (Flipping the scipt)
At some point it should be known to your pivot that she needs to find a reason leave you and the target alone. Then it’s up to you. She will never be as hard up to get your affection as she will be in this moment. Go hard. Escalate kino, then stop before things get out of control. This is where the whole 2 steps forward 1 step back comes into play. Each cycle of stepping should see an increase in kino. Before the day is over, she’ll be all over you.


I’ve been studing a lot of Style’s old tapes and reports, this is an exact situation that he recommended for a rAFC in your position.

Let us know how it goes.

Wow...yeah the funny thing is i was reading the game today and i came across the "willingness to risk losing her" argument when Mystery implied he was never gonna see that serbian chick again...

anyways so i totally agree with what your saying but i dont know the proper steps..how do i flip the script....i was planning on doing the cube and then ignoring her for a bit...then see if shes worth my time...but for now i havent made a decision..where is styles videos can find the right scenerio that best decribes this situation. btw this girl is 2 years older than me and really is full of herself lol so i gotta put her back in her place...

how do i make her jelous and whats a pivot..

A pivot is another female, preferably a really good looking one, that knows what you are trying to do. Basically a female wing.
Tactic for making her jealous:
Invite your target somewhere. Then show up to the “Date” with your pivot. This is going to be an ego shot to her because she thinks your all about her. This is effectively flipping the script, your somewhat tooling her now. Now she has to compete for your attention and this situation is on your terms. In the past you have been competing for hers with her friends and she’s been “Throwing you under the bus”. In the simple push pull tactic, give her some IOI’s, then IOD’s. All along your doing the same to the pivot. If the target is interested in you she will start to compete for you. If the target is acting good, reward her good behavior with attention. If she starts acting bad, punish her by focusing on the pivot. As the “date” goes along, if things are going well, your pivot should excuse herself and allow you to isolate the target.

Don’t over react to the success, continue to play solid game. This is where you give her some compliance tests and complete some kino escalation.

Hey man id like to talk to you over Yahoo messenger to get a little more insight on this and id like to see if I can help you out man so ive sent you a contact request and a instant message.

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Can someone brief me what is the paris hilton story and what are the other openers from rj?

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