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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 2:33 am 
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Hello guys.

First of all, SORRY for all the text, but hopefully it is a good story :)
I want to bring you up to speed so you have some context.

Dont sugarcoat it. A side of me is already saying "Bail on this HB, she is a waste of time". And another side has ONITIS, overanalyze and wants to keep trying.

She NEVER initiates contact, but ALWAYS replies to my texts and within 2-3 min.

Anyway... STORY TIME, and I want your thoughts BADLY.
Suggestions / feedback on what I could have done differently and what I should do next, if anything.

The backstory:

I met a girl and we hit it off. She showed some big IOI's and a week later she spent the night at my place.
Anyway.. Nothing special..

After that, I was too needy and came on too strong. Over the next 4 weeks i tried to setup 2 new meets, but first she had other plans, the next she flaked.

I completely ignored her and two weeks later she "accidentally" runs into me at a café (she knew I would be there). She fiddle's with my hair to get my attention and say hello. She came alone, sits with someone she barely knows. Later, when she is about to leave, she comes up and hugs me, we say goodbye and I say "maby I see you friday?" (at a bar we both know). She says maby.

She shows up the next friday, hugs me and says "I promised I'd be here.." We sit and talk, drink with some mutual friends. She has too many shots and gets pretty drunk. I dont really talk to her the rest of the evening, except when I see her leaving. When I ask her where she is off to, she says "downtown to meet my guy..." - When I ask her if she really has a guy, she seems to take it back by saying "... just some asshole" or something similar.

Last meet:

I chose to take that as a failed shit-test, and ignore it.
Some days later, i start building rapport via texts and it is going pretty well. She tells me she was glad to see me again and when I ask if she is free the weekend next week, she says no, but she is free THIS weekend. I arrange a meet there, but tell her that I have to go "early".

On the day of the meet, she texts me, asking me when I will be at the bar. I answer and ask her the same. She replies "same time as you then", and also tells me she has been out bathing with a friend at the middle of the night, the day before. Later, around the time of the meet, she texts me that she is on her way, but "... it is going pretty slow."

She gets there, Im with some friends, she sits next to me. We talk and play some mild drinking-games with the others. She kept laughing, flicking my nose and slapping me gently each time I tease her. I just took that as some IOI, and I ended up giving her a neck-massage somehow. She told me I was good at it and I playfully replied "yea, I know".

As we talk, I ask about the story she told me about her bathing with a friend last night. Long story short, she was with a male friend out skinny-dipping and they spent the night together. She told me how he was a bit "pathetic" with his hangover this morning. I doubt anything happened between them.

She's a smoker and when she was leaving to have a smoke, I asked if I could have one(she knows I dont smoke), and she says "No, you shouldnt smoke.". I said "Alright mom", she just laughed (later that day she called me dad).

After about an hour she sits down at the bar and talk with some friends. Leaving her purse at the table. Later, when I go to get another drink, I sit down beside her and we talk some more, but she seems distant and bored of me. Anyway, it was time for me to go soon anyway. I dont really remember how we said goodbye, but that doesnt matter.

I come back:
I got home to let some friends in who where staying the weekend. After about 3 hours I text her:

Me: [Sooo.. Are you sober enough to be around?]
Her: [Haha sure sure :)]
Me: [Still at the bar, or have you moved on?]
Her: [We're still at the bar]
Me: [Should we continue the party if I drop by?]
Her: [Maby :)]
Me: [I'll take that as a yes :)]

Great text-game. I should have stopped at the first text, shit.
I probably shouldnt have come back at all. Anyway...

I get to the bar again, and the evening progresses with her still begin pretty distant / tired / bored.
I stayed there for about 2 hours before going home to my guests again.

These are the major points which happened during that time:

I met another girl, who I rejected the week before. I didnt want to talk to her, so she slapped me and poured a drink in my hair.
She (my HB) got angry at her and told her that wasnt okay. I just laughed and told her it was fine.

I see her kissing a girl, who afterwards writes something on her breasts.
She dances with a guy she knows and later gets a massage from him when they are out having a smoke.
While talking to her she at one point says "... I dont understand why you came back here."

At one point, someone I know(but not that well) talks to her and I hear this:
Him: [... (my name) got some gode points.]
Her: [... what did I just say?]

Dont know what it was about, but I can imagine her, telling him, that she isnt interested in me.

Not to confuse you, lets say the current weekend is #1, the next is #2 and the next is #3.
Alright, so as I said ealier, she told me she was busy weekend #2, so we meet this weekend, but I had to go "early".

Alright, so now, as I was about to leave again, she seems to be alot more friendly and open again. As I hug her goodbye, she jumps onto me, legs around my waist. I hold her for a few seconds, before putting her down again.

As I know she is busy weekend #2, i ask about #3, as there is a big May-party in town. She isnt ready as she has exams two days after that, but then says "but I might be ready next weekend" (weekend #2). As I wait for my ride, we go talk at the bar and playfully dance a bit. As I leave, she says "I'm also going to leave soon."

THE END!

This is fucking with my head.
Did she want a reaction from me when she tells me about her skinny-dipping, spending the night with someone else and later dancing and getting massages from another guy?
Should I make it clearer that I am interested?
Is she afraid to show interest herself?
Is she just a tease, seeking attention from whoever she can?
Is this a friendzone and I just cant see it?

But most importantly should I initiate contact later this week, build some more rapport/comfort and setup a meet for weekend #2?
Or should I move on, or maby hope that she will contact me(im 90% sure she wont, unless she runs into me in person.)

TL;DR: Apparently I have mild schizophrenia and cannot decide what to do :D


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:13 pm 
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That totally could have been written with half as many words.

My opinion: she's trying to elicit jealousy from you by constantly dropping shit about another guy. Who knows if there really even is one? Seems like a juvenile thing to do and she's inadvertently making herself look slutty as well.

There's zero other reason to be telling you about another guy. She's testing you to see if you're into her by how you react.

You want to date this girl or just hook up again? Hooking up seems like it wouldn't require a lot of effort. She's either into you, or she's totally slutty. Either way you just need to escalate. All her kino towards you should be viewed as a big fucking green light.

As for your sanity - yeah man, she's sort of trying to mind fuck you. Blow it off. Act like you don't care. Be the alpha.


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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 1:54 am 
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Dude, your are definitley friend zoned and definitley have one-itis. I just went through this. I only read the first paragraph and i assumed you had it. went on to read the rest of the post and it confirmed it. this is the type of girl that needs someone to validate her and constantly seeks attention from guys to make her feel special, even guys not interested in her. this type of girl only fucks alpha guys or guys that she is into. I say you have some chance of doing it. but move on and dont waste time. i wasted 2 years of my life not going after girls because of oneitits


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