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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:50 pm 
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my ex and I were together for 1 year it was almost like the greatest adventure, first girl I ever fell for and it took me 5 to 6 months before I took her serious and made it exclusive (was dating other girls at the time). I was considered the slut in school so she just wanted to have fun at first when we met and I knew how to push those buttons . The first half of the relationship was awesome we had sex everytime we saw each other. But that was when I was living in college dorms (two semesters, I'm 22 btw and she 23 HB9) . After I graduated it started going downhill because it turned into a long distance relation ship but before that we had a summer where we where living away from each other but we still managed to see each other 1-2 days a week.

Well anyways A few days before Christmas she called me on the phone when I went out and I told her that I was partying and just flirting a little with some girls (I was just trying to be truthful) she then broke up with me the next day and said she couldn't take it how I disrespect her like that. I've told her that I didn't think much of it and she's is still the one I loved and I didn't cheat just was having fun. She then wanted me back a day later. It hurt for only a day lol.

Now fast forward she saw my phone on V-day (i actually checked her's first because she briefly checked mine one time, but my thoughts were that if i was gonna commit myself completely to her then i needed to be sure)where she saw that I was teasing and semi-flirting with two girls. She was really distant during these times so i figured i could blow some steam by having fun.She then let that go and i proceeded to be really nice to here the whole month of february since it was her birthday month, AFC once in a while? and a week ago she randomly called me on a Sunday telling me that she needs a break and she doesn't know what I been doing and she feels like she needed space (I didn't reply to her text the night before which was at 9pm and the next morning I just said good morning). She said it took her time to realize but she can't trust me anymore.

Now a week later she made it absolute that we were broken up on Saturday (today is Thursday) she said she needs assurance someone who will be her husband who she can count on and make her feel like the world. Keep in mind I have never been nice to women and I have never show emotions but to her I did all I could, I would put into consideration of not hugging and saying hi to some girls and I would even let go of arguments just so we can be fine. I kind of think she may have lost interest idk. She said we have no fun and she has no trust anymore all she has is Love for me and that's not enough. (We both work multiple jobs and live an hour-2 hrs away from each other so we hadn't seen each other much) she also started withdrawing sex a month ago which I nexted her and brought light to it(but then she started saying that i complain about sex too much, maybe i AFC'ed it there but i was trying to communicate with her)which she turned on me and said we don't have fun unless we are having sex.

I want her back but Idk if its too late. I told her if anything we can be friends but she said it would take a long time to get over her anger and get over me so today I sent the text "you know, I really did everything I could do to show you how much you mean to me, and how much I love you, Habibti. But I've thought about it for the past 2-3 days and if you still don't want to be with me in any way, then I think it's best we both go on with our lives. Take care." (Habibti means "my love in arab" shes arab and im hispanic, major culture clash) I've always told her that she is the only girl I'm even nice to and she shouldn't take advantage of it but I guess it wasn't enough.

What do u guys think? I would never try to cheat on her I'm just naturally flirtatious and I'm at a lost for words whenever I try to calm her. Can i get her back? It's been about 3 hrs since I sent that text and she hasn't responded but I did make the decision that that was the last text to send. I'm going to hard next her. I Plan to reinitiate contact after a month though on a friends basis to see if I can get the good old attraction flow going but that requires me going out of my way(I plan to call her first and schedule a meet). I really want it to work again and i dont really think i did anything wrong maybe shes just fucked up and stressed from her two jobs and school. if this doesnt work i think im just moving on. Any help would be good guys.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:19 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:26 am 
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Continue your plan and talk to her. Ask her why she reacted that way, although you have done nothing wrong. If you really love her, fight for her. Give every affection she deserves, maybe in that way you can settle your problems, and you can get her back. But if she really stand on her decision, you have nothing to do, but respect her decision and move on.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:58 am 
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This was her reply"I did everything I was able to do as well... I don't have any words or feelings left for me to express. But what do you mean by going on with our lives? " . I think I might just leave it like that I'm almost sure she's going "trust" crazy and not giving me the benefit of the doubt. Should I next her or actually let it go? She is worth it but idk if its worth my effort to deal with her female craziness.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:19 am 
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i mean, what are you expecting? you want to get her back to be with you. but you do not get what women are about. women want to find a husband that is only with her and never meets other women. you told her you talked to other women and she realised you won't make a husband that doesn't look at other women. From my experience, do not be with girl long and you won't have that kind of issue. I mean, it's called love. For her love is not enough, it is also not looking at other women. I mean, woman is a family building person, and she wants a guy who is only there with her. If there is another woman, she leaves to look for guy who is only with her.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:42 am 
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i mean, what are you expecting? you want to get her back to be with you. but you do not get what women are about. women want to find a husband that is only with her and never meets other women. you told her you talked to other women and she realised you won't make a husband that doesn't look at other women. From my experience, do not be with girl long and you won't have that kind of issue. I mean, it's called love. For her love is not enough, it is also not looking at other women. I mean, woman is a family building person, and she wants a guy who is only there with her. If there is another woman, she leaves to look for guy who is only with her.
Ok but how do I go about showing that I will do that for her. Logical words don't really have an impact on her now. I don't know how to penetrate that thick emotional barrier she has surrounding her logical mind. Is there a way I can show her this and earn her trust back. I'd be willing to show her that I'd do anything for her so long as she doesn't pass my lines. She also thinks I party too much which sucks because I hardly go out anymore and that's the only way I can actually blow off steam from my career and 2nd job. Hanging out with the bois. Shouldn't she be able to compromise with me?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:30 pm 
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My girl best friend suggested that I call her today when she is available and tell her that "idc if you have nothing left to express or your feeling cold and numb towards me but I want to show you that your the world to me, and that you can trust me, I want you to feel and hear the words coming out of my mouth because I really want to prove to you that you really CAN trust me, I'll put in all my effort and cut all my BS" but at the same time it might be too soon, idk maybe ill save it for another time.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:09 am 
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I suggest not to listen what women tell you. One of the crapiest advises women give. it's not that they are not good advices, it is that they are women centered advices. I mean, men and women are not the same, men have dicks, women have vaginas. Unless if she is your sister, those usually tell you the truth. But, the thing is, she already knows what you are like, she already found out that you won't make a good husband. And it's not a bad thing, it's bad thing for her. Besides she minght be already going out with another guy, women are like that. The thing is she does not trust you no more, and you can't get trust second time. Sorry bro, it's called relationships. This is why don't fall in love. And if you do, then forget about this forum and go for marriage.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:14 am 
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thanks for the help guys, well it turns out she called me today around 9pm. She said hi but then She said that my mother called her and left a voice mail speaking about us and our situation but she felt a little weird calling her back so she called me. I responded by saying that she just likes to talk to her and she shouldn't call me and just call my mother instead. I said it has nothing to do with me. Then she asked me what I was doing and we proceeded with a regular conversation and then i asked her what she was doing because it was noisy and she said she was just out wit some guy. this just made me think immediately that she went on a wack date that just made her miss me more. i just shrugged it off and continued with a change of topic and after about 2 more minutes i told her that i had to go because i have a show to watch.

tell me if im getting ahead of myself but I think she called me because she missed me and used my mother as an excuse to talk on the phone. she could had texted me and it would had been the same and why right after a date? shit test? i dont blame her for it I think its in her nature to do this but still im not gonna put up with some BS shit test like that lol ima do me and get her interested again slowly. what ya think? should i still remain with my hard next for a month from now? is she trying to see how I will react?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:42 am 
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I think you got your shit together, and you already know what to do, however I do suggest to give her a chance if you really want her, she is very emotional and I think she needs a shoulder to lean on, however give it some time, but not to much so she has a chance to get over you..


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:08 pm 
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I think two things can possibly going on here:

1. She has an other guy in which case this whole trust drama is just an excuse for her to break up with you. In this case you have no chance, so go no contact and get a next girl.

2. You hurt her ego by talking to other girls and she is being jealous and really stubborn. You've apologized already and explained her that you want to be with her etc. This is enough and her reaction is not logical so you shouldn't be apologizing any more at all. It's normal that you talk to girls you did nothing wrong there except maybe telling her that you flirted with others. In this case tell her that you both need time (which you already did) and go no contact wait for her to chase you.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:55 pm 
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I think its the latter, she's never had a man who ran her through the emotions and sexuality that I did. She's blatantly told me that I was the "best sex she has EVER had" and that when we were together she felt AMAZING but it was when she started withdrawing sex due to stress from work and distance that my paradigm changed. I will admit the relationship became a little boring but its because we were both under alot of stress and busyness. Our daily lives consumed us! I should had maintained it fresh but i didnt have the time to even think that way. Also I guess i almost became needy for the sex and it showed. However, I think there is still something there and I am much more calm and recollected now.

Now im just going to let her realize through hard next that I am still that man that she completely surrendered herself to. She also did mention,during the relationship, that if we ever broke up she would have to start dating right away to get over me, as she did that with her ex which took her a year to completely "get over" and that guy was constantly on her case. So ill be indifferent and she will realize that I am different.

P.S I am gonna continue to tug at her interest a little over time but I am keeping the mindset of moving on. ill keep you guys updated but type away comments if you have other thoughts I am always trying to improve myself and my game.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:33 pm 
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think its the latter, she's never had a man who ran her through the emotions and sexuality that I did. She's blatantly told me that I was the "best sex she has EVER had" and that when we were together she felt AMAZING but it was when she started withdrawing sex due to stress from work and distance that my paradigm changed
Dont hold on words to seriously... Believe me, we all heard from our gf-s that they never had a man that ran their emotions and gave them such great sex... And then we get dumped as they look for next best sex and emotion runner :)

Words are cheap... It is nice to hear them, and be to be fooled by them, but actually they mean nothing.
Sex withdrawal was one huge red flag... It is rarely due to stress on work and that shit. It is due to attraction loss.

I m not saying that she found another guy, but i wouldnt discard that possibility.


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think its the latter, she's never had a man who ran her through the emotions and sexuality that I did. She's blatantly told me that I was the "best sex she has EVER had" and that when we were together she felt AMAZING but it was when she started withdrawing sex due to stress from work and distance that my paradigm changed
Dont hold on words to seriously... Believe me, we all heard from our gf-s that they never had a man that ran their emotions and gave them such great sex... And then we get dumped as they look for next best sex and emotion runner :)

Words are cheap... It is nice to hear them, and be to be fooled by them, but actually they mean nothing.
Sex withdrawal was one huge red flag... It is rarely due to stress on work and that shit. It is due to attraction loss.

I m not saying that she found another guy, but i wouldnt discard that possibility.
Understood man, the words were actually a conversation she had with a mutual friend and I knew of this before hand. Then weeks later she told me, i just didnt tell her i knew. I am also positive about it because I know its true within myself (I am a wonderful lover and woman always come back for more, its one of the strongest part of my game) rather than the words and they just served as a bonus confirmation. I definitely believe there was loss of attraction and there is the possibility of the other guy. She was a hostess at Chilis for god sakes and was bombarded with compliments and men.

However, I feel that the constant attention from men only mislead her this time because of my game going sour for a bit, but now i will turn that around in my favor. I'm going to stick to my gut on this one and I know she actually needs to experience a few post men before realizing what she had. My sis explained to me that she went through the same thing where she dumped her boyfriend but after 3 months of dating dumb boring men and no contact from her ex, she one day looked over past pictures and realized what she had, so she started crying and later contacted him (i love raw female insight). That relationship is now going three years strong after the initial dump. Sometimes you have to let go of what you have to know what you had.

There is also always the possibility of things not happening the way I planned but I am complacent with that. I just want to increase the likely hood of renewing the relationship again and part of which the reason is because she was my first love and i'd like o keep it that way. I am almost excited to find out what happens next lol as opposed to anxious or stressed.


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I m not saying that she didnt mean it when she said those stuff... But girls say what they feel at that particular moment, and their feelings can change in matter of days, and when they do, they can completely disregard previous feelings... :)

But it is completely understandable that you dont want to discard relationship that easily... Your plan is quite effective... Been there, did same thing, and it worked like a charm (took about 4 months)... But unfortunately it showed up that getting back girl is much less problem then preventing same mistakes again, no matter how much you are aware of them...

But if you feel that it is worth a shot, then it is, so i wish you best of luck :)


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