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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Opinion Opener Reply with quote

I was thinking to myself the other day about openers and one came to me on the spot. I've field tested it and it works great. This is the general layout of how it goes down but of course you can change it and use it how you want to. Improvise, go crazy.

Generally you should approach a female set, not mixed, a two set is good because your wing (if you're sarging with one) can keep the pivot occupied while you deal with the target.

YOU: Hey girls, Listen I need some help, I can only stay for a short time (time constraint makes them feel more relaxed because they are relieved to know you may leave soon) I need your opinion on something, do you think that in order to do something right you you must do something wrong?
HB: What do you mean?
YOU: Ok here is an example, I lied to my friend so he wouldn't get hurt. You see he asked me if his girlfriend had been cheating on him on I knew she had but I said no. You see he is going through some tough times at the moment with family and he didn't need that extra trouble.
HB:Bla bla bla
YOU: Carry on with the opener.

What this does is it's an opinion opener which creates conversation, you can elaborate on the story and you DHV a little if you use my example because you show the HB you're generus towards your friend.

What do you think? Try it out and let me know.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's aight
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, its pretty good, but you have to make sure you something good to follow it with, cos if your game relies on routines then your stuffed.

nice though, i like it.
cheers, H
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow i think this is a very good opener. Its the only premade opener that i actually feel comfortable saying. I'm gonna go out and try it a couple times and ill post back up how it goes. Thanks i think it'll work really well.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im a total newb but i was just watching the david d deep inner game disks and a guy was talking about your personal boundary. he said by keeping a solid personal boundary you strengthen other people's boundaries too. When girls test you they are just feeling for your boundaries "which is why saying no is so good". "a girl wants a man with his personal boundary and thats why its possible for a girl to say she was dissapointed because he gave her everything she wanted" so by using your "emotional energy" on something or in this case someone you cant "control" you are "suffering". So yielding to your friend like that might mean holes in your boundary which is the opposite of what your trying to do in pick up.

I havent really done a single set except maybe used an opener (the times i remember were 1 sets but i think i might have done a 2 or maybe 3 set) a few times for practice so im really a newb im just applying what i learned to your routine.
it might be great talk for all i know.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being as experienced as I am, I found that using similar tecniques worked very well. Using this as a standard for this type of opener would work very well and could even be quite easy.
Thanks for keeping your mind open to new openers, its always great to have new ideas that work.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The opener is solid. Good detail, and not too lengthy.

I got a good reaction the other night when I ran a "stalker opener" I came up with recently:

"Hey guys, I have to join my friends but before I do, one quick question I need to ask. What's the best way to deal with a stalker?"

From here, you can either apply this opener to one of your friends or to yourself. I tried it twice the other night and it animated the whole set.
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