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kiwi-indian
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 Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: Ok so you've disqualifed yourself ... now what? |
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I am having problems with disqualifications.
You approach, open, insert a time constraint and then within 30 seconds you disqualify yourself like Style says you should. You stack some routines, build some rapport and now it's time to exit the frame. You go for the number close and the girl then says, "but you said you're gay/married/involved" or whatever.
For this first stumbling block you can still pretend that you only want her number to keep the conversation going and you have no romantic interest. It might just work and you may number close. But then what?
Two days later you're faced with a situation of having to call this girl again. How do you start setting things up that leads to a date and then to a more romantic involvement given your original disqualification? |
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Apple
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Well first off, I don't believe you should say you have a girlfriend or married except as a joke and it should be cocky funny.
I personally do not go the gay route.
Disqualifiers should be in the form of negs. Your disqulifying yourself by making fun of her in a way where she does not believe you are hitting on her. A Popular example is " you and I, we would never get along. We are to similar your stubborn and so am I... blah blah." By disqualifying yourself your accomplishing two things.
1. Disarming any obstacles by showing everyone your not a threat
2. Getting the target intrigued by the fact that she thinks your not hitting on her which will make her wonder why.
Hope this helps
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96Firebird
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Werd, disqualifying yourself by lying is not the way to go. If you've already done this and want to change things, I'd say its not worth it. Learn from it and move on. |
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kiwi-indian
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| Apple wrote: | Well first off, I don't believe you should say you have a girlfriend or married except as a joke and it should be cocky funny.
I personally do not go the gay route.
Disqualifiers should be in the form of negs. Your disqulifying yourself by making fun of her in a way where she does not believe you are hitting on her. A Popular example is " you and I, we would never get along. We are to similar your stubborn and so am I... blah blah." By disqualifying yourself your accomplishing two things.
1. Disarming any obstacles by showing everyone your not a threat
2. Getting the target intrigued by the fact that she thinks your not hitting on her which will make her wonder why.
Hope this helps
Apple |
How can you say you're "too similar" given you've only known her for like 30 seconds (you should use a disqualifier in the first 30 seconds according to Style). |
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kiwi-indian
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| 96Firebird wrote: | | Werd, disqualifying yourself by lying is not the way to go. If you've already done this and want to change things, I'd say its not worth it. Learn from it and move on. |
No, I have not done that. That's what Style says you should do. I just don't know of a good way of doing it and then setting up a date. Cos it doesn't make sense. |
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96Firebird
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| Doesn't make sense to me either. I've never read any PUA books, so I didn't know thats what Style suggested. Maybe someone who is familiar with Style's technique can chime in, because I have no idea why you would do that. |
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kiwi-indian
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| 96Firebird wrote: | | Doesn't make sense to me either. I've never read any PUA books, so I didn't know thats what Style suggested. Maybe someone who is familiar with Style's technique can chime in, because I have no idea why you would do that. |
I hope so too. That being gay, already got a gf etc, is all style's material. |
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Apple
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| kiwi-indian wrote: | | Apple wrote: | Well first off, I don't believe you should say you have a girlfriend or married except as a joke and it should be cocky funny.
I personally do not go the gay route.
Disqualifiers should be in the form of negs. Your disqulifying yourself by making fun of her in a way where she does not believe you are hitting on her. A Popular example is " you and I, we would never get along. We are to similar your stubborn and so am I... blah blah." By disqualifying yourself your accomplishing two things.
1. Disarming any obstacles by showing everyone your not a threat
2. Getting the target intrigued by the fact that she thinks your not hitting on her which will make her wonder why.
Hope this helps
Apple |
How can you say you're "too similar" given you've only known her for like 30 seconds (you should use a disqualifier in the first 30 seconds according to Style). |
That was just an example of a disqualifier. Any sort of neg would work. |
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| 96Firebird wrote: | | Doesn't make sense to me either. I've never read any PUA books, so I didn't know thats what Style suggested. Maybe someone who is familiar with Style's technique can chime in, because I have no idea why you would do that. |
I've only read Style's book "The Game" but basically he makes him seem uninterested, or uneligible. He does this so hes not threatening to anyone, but then he pretends to slowly let his attraction to her grow over time. This makes it seem more organic, so the girl believes that she charmed you into liking her. Like he used the line "If I wasn't gay, youd be so mine" so he seems like a fun, nice guy, but wont hit on her because hes gay. |
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kiwi-indian
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| StrawberryFields wrote: | | 96Firebird wrote: | | Doesn't make sense to me either. I've never read any PUA books, so I didn't know thats what Style suggested. Maybe someone who is familiar with Style's technique can chime in, because I have no idea why you would do that. |
I've only read Style's book "The Game" but basically he makes him seem uninterested, or uneligible. He does this so hes not threatening to anyone, but then he pretends to slowly let his attraction to her grow over time. This makes it seem more organic, so the girl believes that she charmed you into liking her. Like he used the line "If I wasn't gay, youd be so mine" so he seems like a fun, nice guy, but wont hit on her because hes gay. |
Ok, I get it now. |
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| you could also try throwing in a statement of interest before parting with her to set up the phone call |
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tk750
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So in a way, this disqualifier is a form of sarcasm?
Correct me if I'm wrong. |
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Mr. Attraction
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No the disqualifier is like a back handed compliment. Your basically telling her your not here to pick her up your here to socialize and hang out.
But as the set grows on and you have won her friends over then u show some IOIs because now the attraction is there..
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Killians
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| StrawberryFields wrote: | | 96Firebird wrote: | | Doesn't make sense to me either. I've never read any PUA books, so I didn't know thats what Style suggested. Maybe someone who is familiar with Style's technique can chime in, because I have no idea why you would do that. |
I've only read Style's book "The Game" but basically he makes him seem uninterested, or uneligible. He does this so hes not threatening to anyone, but then he pretends to slowly let his attraction to her grow over time. This makes it seem more organic, so the girl believes that she charmed you into liking her. Like he used the line "If I wasn't gay, youd be so mine" so he seems like a fun, nice guy, but wont hit on her because hes gay. |
It makes sense...to an extent. You can still seem uninterested and slowly attract the girl without saying that you are taken or gay. I mean using those lines is just plain dumb. Unless you are already a smooth talker you are gonna dig yourself a hole.
Using disqualifiers and body language (such as not facing directly towards her instead more of a sideways stance) can give off the same impression. |
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| I'd have to say using the "if i was gay routine" from Style is really really complicated. I'd have to say that you didn't say the disqualifier much. I'd suggest finding a different disqualifier that suits you. |
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