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Nobody to Sarge with. Sarge with Me, Myself, and I ???
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:49 am    Post subject: Nobody to Sarge with. Sarge with Me, Myself, and I ??? Reply with quote

Hey everyone,
I heard some of the best PUA's sarge alone. But how about new guys ?

Well, I could go with buddies, but then I end up hanging out rather than trying approaches. I honestly haven't found any PUAs/mentors in my area. I'm thinking of going it alone, although when I'm in a large group I become braver. When I'm hanging out with a one or two buds from work, I end up getting side-tracked, then end up gawking and chickening out of even one approach. I think that I'd perform routines, witty comebacks, etc. better if I don't have the pressure of having a bunch of guys glancing over every minute to see if I number-closed or better.

I'm also thinking that if I go it alone; then when I do meet up with realPUA's, then I can make a better sarging partner.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey bro,
personaly I've had a real shit run with wingmen. I dont yet go out and sarge as such anyway but instead I use my skills everywhere I find myself.
Before learning anything about game, I found some of the sweetest girls ever in service stations, supermarkets and local gocery stores. This is the time to fire your resource state anchor and instantly seduce yourself into seducing whoever.
As far as nightclubs go, im not to keen on the drunken dogs that can phuck your night up with one kinghit.
I think perhaps that finding a good wing is a skill to master in itself..
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the top PUA's (AFC Adam Lyons) advocates going out by yourself. Make friends with a group of girls in the place for social proof. Leave the group to game other girls and returning to your friends between sets if you like. He says its better to go out with girls than go out with PUA's and do nothing but talk about game instead of having fun.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sarging by yourself can work wonders. Generally anytime im out by myself at a bar or concert its more fun because it makes you talk to other people. You don't have a group of people or friend to rely on to talk to. I think it helps with your confidence as well if you are forced to talk to other people.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys, thanks for the input. I believe you guys are absolutely right. I went out on the 31st with some buds, but I did an opinion routine on two mid-twenties HB7.5's ( great practice BTW) and luckily they were alone, so I got in easily.

To make a long story short, my game was ON. My buds (were supposed to be wingmen) sat back whole night as I opened, built attraction and comfort and eventually got both HB's numbers without the "wingmen" cutting down obstacles, handling AMOG's (which I had to do myself), etc.

However, they did add social validation (pre-selection). Hmmm.......

How much do you guys think this factored into me getting the girls' numbers ???

One guy was trying a little too hard with one of the girls, which went in my favor. Another one managed to bring in a few conversation topics, and filled time when I went to the bathroom. The other two were to themselves.

At the end of the day, I believe I could have done it without my buds around....and that's my next mission.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:44 am    Post subject: need help in undestanding the game, request a wingman Reply with quote

hey guys i'm fairly new to this and i've been to my AFC friends about it one of them seems game to it and the other one is an idiot. cock blocking is his middle name and he wonders why i've stopped hanging out with him when i go sarging. he is your typical amog who likes to put his boys down to get with the girls but eventually fucks it up because he gets wasted or he just doesnt have any game. i'm trying to get together with someone who has experience and give me direction. hopefully show me how is done and such things. i live in southern california palm springs area so if you are interested PM me.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm i never thought i would be able to go out alone but now that i think about it, it probably would make me talk to other people. Il have to give the solo sarge a try one day. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going solo is really good for you, actually. I personally started solo, and then went solo for MONTHS. My whole initial learning curve was solo. Even today I rarely have someone with me. At times I do, but I still sarge solo a lot. Not saying it's bad to have someone with you. Not saying that at all. But sarging solo is definitely GOOD for you and your growth.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm personnally terrified of going out sarging alone, but when I'm with my AFC buds I score well, I guess their kinda like a safety net.But nothings better than having a good wingman, who can help you open, give you social proof and genaraly witness your game and hear you brag!My wingmans moved to austrailia for a year and without him my games suffered big time!So I guess that learning game solo has to be better, because you can game without a safety net and the best puas learned to game alone...
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