Newbie Attempt

Fiery · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:55 am Post subject: Newbie Attempt

Hi everyone,

so I went to a nightclub and went up to two girls that was dancing and said "hey what's up". one girl looked and turned away lol and the other just kept dancing. So I asked the one dancing "What's your name". She tells me, then I ask "Where are you from". Then this guy just jumps in and starts dancing between us. I didn't really care so I just walked away.

My question is, if I wanted to continue talking to this girl, what do I do with this guy? Also, I got 2 different opinions on this. In a nightclub, when girls are dancing, do you go up and talk to them first or just dance with them without saying anything?

Thanks,
Very New Newbie

beno101 · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:23 am Post subject:

To be honest mate, ive given up trying to pull birds on dancefloor, its just to much work and most the time all they want to do is dance with their friends. Better off around the bar area..

VitalEyes · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:44 pm Post subject:

You made some really big mistakes, which is cool, I was doing exactly the same thing a few months ago.

Asking 'what's up' won't work unless they're physically attracted to you. Then asking them for their name (signals that you have interest in them) and asking where they're from creates a job interview atmosphere. It portrays you as being boring, just like all the other losers who asked the same thing that night.

In my opinion, if you want to talk to a girl, avoid the dancefloor. I would only use the dancefloor as a good place to open a set if you're a confident dancer with alpha body language.

Slai · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject:

Dont ask close ended questions like that anyways, engage them instead. Open ended questions. Not "hey whats up" "whats your name" "where are you from", but "how was your day", "youre not from here, tell me about your hometown", and so forth. Engage them, make them invest in the conversation, then relate to their answer with a story of your own, reward them for their investment, escalate kino, and fire off a new open-ended question.

What im basically saying is "read How to Meet and Connect With Women" by Wayne Elise (Juggler): .

Oh, and no dancefloor pickups.

You have the odd times when youre minding your own business, having a good time, and a girl dances over to you and drags you to the dancefloor and practically rapes you, in which case just escalate kino like a bastard and put her in a cab before she can rethink what shes doing. Always fun with luck. But wont help your game much.

Moonlighter · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject:

Yer I am with beno on this one, i would stay well away from the dance floor it's an absolute trap!! The girls aren't there for conversation they are there to dance, so you can't run game.

Paetar · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject:

OK, you screwed it. You came off as any other guy would. But, if you will get attraction from girl later, when aou improve your pickup skills, dont just walk off. Stay there for a second, maybe even push away the AMOG.

Enigma87 · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject:

evryone has there own game, i enjoy dancing, its fun, therefore girls see me having fun when im dancing. its a good place to spot targets too. im also thinking that being a fun dancer shows that ur not really bothered what ppl think off you so confidence is always good. its good for kino and opening you can dance for a bit and wander off, then if you see them at the bar and you can start chatting, i see it as a way to peacock with your actions rather than what ur wearing.
as for conversationing when you dance with a girl you can make them laugh which relieves tension and is easier to engage in converstaion after this. plus you can see if some1s attracted easily when dancing through body language.
i think the dance floor is something that we shouldnt be scared of, i like to meet girls who go out an hav fun and i find alot more of these people on the dancefloor than stood at the bar or sat down. (one girl i met im now going to her dance class so she can teach me how to body pop, but in trade im teaching her to fire eat and juggle.)
also if there is alot of girls you wanted to sarge then dancing with alot of people one night is good, (cause there may not be time to go and start convo with all of them) increase ur chances, i can go out and get people coming up and saying do you remember dancing with me "x" weeks ago.. brillaint occasion for negs and can follow up by aaaw u remember me blah blah blah...
I think the dance floor is just another tool that can be used in ur game, and i would suggest goin to dance class's too, full of girls you can practice game on and a good place to pick up pivots. also if you saw them out in town its good dhv if 2,3 girls come up and start dancing with you who are good at dancing and you dont look like a fool....

as for the amog me and my wing hav found a good way to get rid of this solution if their dancing face to face then you and ur wing/freind dance face to face but between them, creating a cross + its sort of and invisible line cutting between them. we hav tried this a few times and always seemed to work, where not very built or tall but hav had older larger amog's walking all the way around us as not to cut through our dancing.... and leave, we find it hillarious and the girls is left wondering why her partner has jus left her!
Laughing

-PEACE-

Moonlighter · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject:

Good for you if you can dance Enigma!! If i could dance i would be on the dance floor all the time, in fact i doubt you need any game if you can really dance but I am guessing lancerboy isn't like John Travolta winning 1st prize in the jack rabbit flin's dance off.

Fiery · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject:

lol Moonlighter I am definitely not.

I was reading so much on this forum and watching those vidoes made it seem fun to try out these approaches. I thought I might as well give it a try. Thanks everyone for your helpful inputs. I've got lots of stuff to read and improve on.

Enigma87 · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject:

lol moonlighter,thankyou. i dont think i can dance well.
i find dancing different to every1 else makes you stand out more but jus remember to hav a huge grin on ur face, some girls like it but thats good for me cause im a tad eccentric so ppl who dont like it wouldnt like me.
but sriously lancerboy, and moonlighter dance class's, there hillarious. in fact on fun things to do i'm putting dancing/ classes right underneath sarging! it is that fun.
and hav the confidence that john travolta wants to dance like ME!
Cool

-peace-

Moonlighter · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:33 pm Post subject:

LOL Enigma i am googling dance classes right away!!!

Basyo · Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:02 am Post subject:

the dance floor is where i know how to pick up the gal is a club... all u need is to look confident...
-and to never look at a gal for more than a 1 sec...train ur self to see wat u wanna c in her in less than 1 sec...
-make sure ur head is always up...NEVER look at ur feet (that deadly)..if u dont know where to look...look up(seriously)
-RAISE UR FREAKIN STANDARDS...
-in the first couple of songs dance alone and dont make moves on anyone...cuz from my experience...HBs will come last...and they saw u PU a less attractive gal they will discard u as an option
-have ur space on the dance floor...this send off all the right vibes(for ex. if ppl r getting too close -especially attractive gals- litterally push them away gently as if ur saying i need my space ...i had a gal go crazy over me once because of that tech....i pushed her away..then she gave me the stare down test which i passed...next thing i notice she is grabbing my hand and dancing with me..she was a solid 9.
-make eye contact...(i know that contradicts the "dont look for more than 1 sec rule"...but wat i mean is if u want to look at her better look her in the eye...at least u wont look like the perv. starring at her ass.
- i know this one will sound weired...but give ur self time to feel like this place is comfortable...dance in a spot till u feel like THIS SPOT IS MINE..I OWN IT...once u feel that...the personal space thing will be natural and u will do it more naturally...(best is to move from 1 spot to another untill u find a nice spot with lots of traffic and a wide view of ppl
-wait untill ur proximity if filled which will probably take from 4-5 songs
-once u target someone...have patience and dont rush to talk..wait n c wat they do...who is talking to them...u will find opportunities like a AFC goin to introduce him self...u can then go in there and pretend he is not even there and start gaming the gals...(i once had a 8 dancing nxt to me near the bar - i was kind chilling only that day- when this AFC comes with 2 drinks in his hand and hand her one...she refuses in the begining then finally takes it to let him go and puts it on the bar ...the drink was in my reach ...so nevertheless i reach out and have a sip from her drink...she looks at me n smiles and the AFC stood there surprised by wat was happening...i got the gal cuz HE bought her a drink...lol)

thats all i can remember...n ohh...i dont know how to dance...all i do is 2 stepping and i sway gently from side to side...

Fierce · Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:25 am Post subject:

u need to stop asking close ended questions.

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