should we have the new acronym?
yes  14%  [ 4 ]
no  43%  [ 12 ]
no  43%  [ 12 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:08 pm 
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i have been transferring to natural game with vin dicarlo, and i have realized that we make it harder for ourselves than we really have to. I believe that we should have an acronym for all puas that are becoming naturals: Rpua

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You become a natural naturally through the PUA art. There is no transitional phase, i don't believe, between PUA and Natural, it just happens gradually and one day you realize you are a natural. I vote no.

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i have been transferring to natural game with vin dicarlo, and i have realized that we make it harder for ourselves than we really have to. I believe that we should have an acronym for all puas that are becoming naturals: Rpua
When your game becomes natural to you thats when your finally to the PUA level in your flow chart in your sig.

A natural is someone who does all the things you learn in PUA without ever being told they should do them... they just know, and always have.

Naturals are born that way... and typically would fall somewhere in the rAFC, PUA, or maybe mPUA "levels" as you put them.

Making your game more natural is a great step, personally I improve almost everything, it's much more effective then canned lines openers or routines that are strictly followed... but to me thats just means I'm a good PUA, and I no longer need my training wheels (canned stuff)


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Completely pointless.

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Bullshit term. How can there be a Rpua? You can't recover from PUA. If you do "recover" it is only to AFC. If you become a natural you are still a PUA.

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For the last couple of years, I've been actively campaigning against the glorification of the term "Pick Up Artists".

Ironic, I know, considering I made Thundercat's Top Ten list this year... BUT I NEVER ACCEPTED THAT TERM, nor do any of the guys in The Community I respect.

PICK UP ARTISTS are the CON ARTISTS of the 'Sexual Predator' arena.

Throughout history, when someone was ACCUSED of being a 'Pick Up Artist' he'd back-peddle and deny it.

"I wasn't playing games with her or trying to have sex with her without offering to make an 'honest woman' out of her...."

But society has always insisted that a woman is ONLY supposed to offer her sex to a man in exchange for his providing her with SECURITY - ideally by marrying her, and committing to support her for life.

A woman could also barter her sex for lesser rewards, but only handfull of times, without appearing 'too easy' or 'a slut'.

So a Pick Up Artist essentially CONS a woman into considering him as someone who is offering her security - but he is actually just trying to get into her pants, without a care for her feeling used and abused - leaving her to publicly decry the Pick Up Artist for being the scoundrel he was, in an effort to save-face for having been duped.

People who THINK OF THEMSELVES AS "PICK UP ARTISTS" are creepy.

Don't be creepy.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not criticizing learning "Pick Up" skills -
I believe that most men were raised to be timid of, and anti-social with, women. This is a shitty situation on all sides.

Guys NEED to learn that women are not 'The Enemy' - and that IT'S OKAY to meet them and learn about them and let them learn about you, without guilt or compunction.

What I'm concerned with are men who believe that they want to BECOME A "PICK UP ARTIST".

When being a 'PUA' becomes their goal, they stop being cool and they become creepy.

Instead of becoming socially calibrated, and comfortable enough in themselves simply to introduce themselves to women - they begin to treat the affection of women as a vehicle for proving themselves TO OTHER MEN and they stop viewing women as PEOPLE, and instead view them as TROPHIES.

Men who look at women as 'HB8.5' or "UG5" are beneath us.

They are CREEPY, because they are not trying to enjoy the company of people who attract them, looking to share themselves with the objects of their desire; they are looking to impress other men with their ability to dupe externally-appraised trophies into 'putting out'.

Please check THIS POST: '(LINK) The NATURAL alternative to 'Rating Women' if this is at all unclear!

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