Here is my story

I met this HB latina in a salsa night.We exchanged number and texted back and forth in the week.I told her how good palm and facial features reader i am.She immidietly hooked up and ready to go for a date and then i took her to lounge for a date.It was smooth i get into kiss close and then drop her in home and then for 4 days we cant hook up because she was very busy and promised me to show up on monday next week.Then just half hour back she told her mom is comming by 2am in morning so we can just hang around till that time and she is fine even to come home with me but will back at 2 am

I bring her to top of the tower and make some drink and then bring her to apartment but cant advance her more as she stopped me even to touch her boobs and looks like i fucked up there

and then i ask her before i drop her whats your plan for tomorrow?which looks like a big afc and she said busy will go to gym where she was telling she would be free whole week.

Then the bad sequence happen.After 2nd day

I texted this after 1 day

Me:Do you know how hard someone hearts for you?Its like teardrop born in your eyes living on your cheeks and will die in your lips(copied somewhere)

she:replied he sitster birthday is there she will see 2 days after

Me:then just casual conversation how my day is and she replied how she wants to stay in bed dont want to go work

Me:Then i texted her i found something interesting and will show you later in the day

she:replied what you found?

Me:Get so nervous whether she would see me that night so called her twice but went to voice mesage

Then i Texted
Me:Ok get ready once you back from school will show you

She:Sorry some unexpected come up cant see me today

Next day i texted again
Me:You really missed the candy party last night and it was fun
She replied back
She:Parties not important to me doesn't really matter

Then no reply for 2 days

Finally send a frustration text after get drunk
Me:Have you decided not to see me or nor to talk to me? Or i will drop you from my cute angels list

She got mad just shot back
She:Drop me from your list

Then i didnt replied anything for a day i just drop last message
Me:Felt so bad you didnt understand the text in between the lines.I feel you never understood me well yet how i felt and how much i adore you not a single day is gone without thinking of you.you have touched me so deep that i cant bear it anymore.Yes you are right i should stop now and move now

Now its a more than 2 weeks i didnt send any text or called after that neither she responded back after my last text. she is so hot that i cant resist to loose her.

I know i made several mistake in between the dates and conversation but really appreciate if any one can throw up any idea to make up. though logically its not good from me to contact her after last text.

Please

Thanks
Sam

I don't think there's any way to repair this after badgering her and then giving her an ultimatum(in which she said to drop her). At least not over the phone or by text.

If you know she usually goes somewhere, you could always try to get there ahead of time and have a pawn on your arm. And honestly, I'm not too sure you aren't past the ability to even make her jealous(but it's at least possible under this scenario).

You have some strong inner game issues to work on. That doesn't mean you stop seeing girls and go meditate on a mountain or something. That means you get back into the same situation again, but with a new girl, and this time, pay attention to how you're feeling and how you're coming across.

Even right now, it's difficult for you to see what you should have done differently and how far gone she is, otherwise you wouldn't be asking about how to get her back.

What happened was you did a few little "not so bad" things at the start, that could have been avoided if you knew better, and her interest waned a little, and whether you sensed this or just kept getting more anxious regardless of how she was feeling, you reacted by getting even more worried and acting on those fears which sent more unattractive signals to her.

Then you seemed to compensate by going really heavy with the "teardrop" stuff, it was too much, too soon, you only just met this girl. She's thinking "Wow, why is he trying so hard, how could he possibly feel that way, we only just met..." people have sex together one night and still don't feel that way. You only feel that way after spending a long time together. Even by the end, when you told her you think about her every day, was still way too much.

And of course the part where she said "parties not important to me" is a lie. Everyone likes parties. She's just trying to avoid you at this point. And she didn't get mad when she said "drop me", she was just very much trying to avoid you at that point.

This is why you need to work on your inner game. Millions of years of evolution have honed the mating process so finely that women look for the things that can't be faked. If there is a time period where you don't get a response, and you get anxious, and you act without tempering that anxiety, it's going to come through in the decisions you make and the way you act, and she will sense it, and be turned off. It's a sign of anxiety, a weakness, a lack of confidence in one's self, and women are looking for confidence, and protection, or at the very least, emotional stability. Once that happens, you can't really go back. Unless at some random point in the future you bump into each other and she thinks you've changed. But that's a very much "what will be, will be" situation - you can never count on that happening, and you have to move on.

Trust me, this one is over. And you know it, logically, you said so yourself. But you're filled with desire to get her back. But at this point it's not so much about her, than it is about you trying to deal with the fact that you fucked up so much that you lost someone LIKE her. This is a one-itis kind of situation and it's like a disease. You have to re-direct the energy and learn from this situation.

The important thing is this is a necessary learning experience. If you're not good at something, you fuck it up, and you learn from it, and you get a bit better. Until eventually, you are good at it.

It may or may not be that the point where her mum came was her getting a bit suspicious, or genuinely needed to go at 2am, but the point is it shouldn't have mattered. If you were cool with whatever happened, that would have won big points with her.

The point where you went to touch her boobs, you said "looks like I fucked up", I'm willing to bet you were visibly hurt or unsettled when she rejected your advance to touch her boobs. That would have lost heaps of points. If you know that, as a male, its your job to explore the connection between you both, because she will never make a move, then you know that being rejected is a necessary part of the process. And she instinctively knows this too. Maybe not conciously - she may be offended at the very moment you try and she pushes you away, but when you respond like it's no big deal and keep the situation moving and focus on something fun, that will win big points, and she will re-rationalise that situation in her head and tell herself "Well I was probably just teasing him too much, it was probably my fault" because she has a new-found confidence in you, since you just displayed confidence in that situation.

Because funnily enough, same situation, same rejection, and you act "hurt" or "awkward", she will then feel awkward, and then tell herself "I wish he hadn't have tried that..." do you see what happens? Your version of reality will set the frame for what's going on.

You just have to be strong and confident about yourself.

And if you know you're feeling scared or unsure, the key is to spot yourself getting into that mindset, and taking forced courses of actions that you KNOW make you "appear" to be in control, you get good at being a good actor, and then when you come out the other side, you find out... wow... there was no reason to be scared at all. In fact, I misread the whole thing, and she was actually feeling embarrassed for herself / or feels sorry about what happened / or didn't actually care. And if I had acted on my fear, THEN things would have gone bad.

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this is great stuff! dude, you just grew by three heads. most of your stuff is right on from what i've read. really cool, thanks for sharing your insight.

it's really so logical if you look at it from that perspective. they evolved to search for hidden weaknesses and faults that would undermine their own survival and the survival of their offspring. genius!

absolutely hot stuff here!!!

Ok here is thing what happened when i touch her boobs on first date she denied but shows up or wants to see me next time

When i touch her again on my 2nd date thought will give in on 2nd date .its my bad luck her mom called her again to pick her up from airport that time i dont have time to recover at all.

To me my mistake was i shouldn't have see her on that day i should have wait for some other day which makes me more desperate and don't have much time to play with and also i should have take her to lounge get her drunk then should have bring her home.which seems to be fucked up pretty bad.

Regarding text message i was not sure what to text because i didnt feel same attraction she had after 1st date thats why i send those emotional message to recover.I dont think that worked pretty much but worked somehow to get me 3rd date.on 3rd date i should have play cool when she flake.I don't know i just guess.After that all my text to her and than the dropping from list didn't gone down well and backfired really bad.

The last closing text i send because i thought there is no chance to recover at that point so send a emotional message how feel about the relationship and then add a point i should stop now and move on.Now i know that woman think about emotionally .If there is something by luck we bump each other i have decided not to speak and still follow the no contact rule for 60 days.

I know when i get nervous i should have ask for ideas in forum before i texted back .

Let me ask you this how would you have carried it if you are in my place and what should you text back?

Thanks
Sam

Thanks man. If you do like what I have to say, then if you like you can follow my blog (link is in my signature). I want to build a different kind of community, because I think traditional pickup has it backwards entirely, most of the time. One thing I'm looking at doing is making myself available for advice on the fly, for a fee (eg. sms or facebook message). But the advice here and the blog is free of course.
Ok, I know you think you’ve read my last post, but you haven’t really understood it,. I strongly suggeset you first, get into a mindset where you’re not fretting about getting this girl back anymore. It’s clouding your thinking and you’re rushing through the world looking for an answer, and not seeing the forest for the trees. Accept you fucked this one up, deal with the pain, and focus on something new - play a video game or read a book or a web comic, whatever you enjoy, to take your mind off it. Think about starting a new side-project, or work on something you’ve wanted to do for a while. Basically you have to do something where you’re in a much calmer state of mind before you re-read my post again, carefully, make sure you extract all the meaning you can out of the words.

Because if you were reading properly, you would have seen the part where I described quite thoroughly, that being turned down is not a bad thing, it is actually an essential part of the courtship process, it’s your job as a male. It gives you a chance to react in a way that shows you’re confident in yourself. You really have to go back and re-read that part. Same deal as above - her having to leave early is not a bad thing. Wrong, wrong wrong... seeing her on that day was fine, earlier is always better. When you wait, the spark of the attraction starts to die. If she wants to meet earlier, it means she’s keen and you should strike while the iron is hot. You may only get a few hours with her, but those few hours will show her that she really wants more.

And if you think you have to get her drunk and take her home to get any success... no. That is the path that is only an option to mentally deficient sickos. Even the most desperate woman in the world would not want to be taken advantage of in this way, what makes you think she’d be impressed that you would take that angle? No, it didn’t work. She was either agreeing to a date to be polite and let you down kindly, or you had actually built up enough attraction beforehand that, somehow, those wussy messages didn’t completely destroy your chances.

You correctly detected that the attraction wasn’t as high from her, but as I said in the last post, texting those kinds of messages was a bad move, too much too soon. You have to re-read my post, and this time, don’t feel attacked for it and needing to defend the reason you did it - I already know the reason you did it. I’m telling you why it was a bad thing so that you don’t do it again. All of that is correct. I’ve done that exact same thing in the past. All it does is nail the door shut! Maybe you feel like it “has to be done” but actually you’re just confirming to her that you are what she thinks you are, and when you bump into each other again, it’s unlikely she will even acknowledge you exist. Trust me on this one, I know for a fact and had it proven enough times.

What will have a much better chance of working in the long run, is, whenever you get bad signals from her, is to simply back off completely, and go dark. In traditional pickup terms - a freeze out. Without closure, she will wonder what really happened, and she will very likely contact you first. And I have had that fact proven enough times to know it works. But naturally there’s a possibility you won’t hear from her again. And that’s just the way it is. Contacting her to try and “work out what went wrong” is ONLY going to go downhill. Anything you do will be bad, and even worse, can look bad for your social circle if they discover how you’re behaving. Just go dark, and don’t give any reason for anyone to think you’re doing anything wrong. They will try to find out from you themselves.

In your case, freezing out at this point would at least have avoided nailing the door shut and increased the chance of her checking you out again if you bump into her again randomly. That's all. But that is still something. It's never too late to do the right thing. If you read my previous post, and this one, thoroughly enough, you would know. Basically, it’s the key points, such as, early on, when she rejects you, to move on and continue the fun like nothing bad happened. That will win you super points. And you’ll find this really hard to accept, and/or put into practice, and do you know why? Because it’s really hard to fake that! And that’s why women have evolved to look for those reactions to see what’s really going on underneath. Re-read that part in my previous post, where I also covered “being a good actor”.

And as for what to text, well nothing she texted you was particularly out of the ordinary, it was only your wild and wacky out-of-the-blue texts that messed things up. You only needed to, first, attempt to call, not text, because talking allows you to show so much more in your voice than hiding behind texting, and will win way more points. If it rings out, then text "Hey, just tried to catch you - " and then the suggestion of when to meet up.

For more information, see my blog post about exactly what to text after the first meetup; http://pickupfixup.wordpress.com/2012/0 ... rst-meetup And feel free to follow my blog for more updates, I'm updating it almost daily now.

And once you have re-read my previous post, let me know if you still have questions. I appreciate it may not be written perfectly. So if you have any questions, please ask, and I think I’ll write a blog post about it with a lot more detail, since that kind of thing is good for everyone to know. (Link is in my signature)

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Ok Here is the update in morning i send an email to her
subject:How i felt in those days

Body:
youtube link
moving on is hard but cant help myself

Now got a reply from her
:Good morning! Nice song. I hope everything is well in your life. Have a great day

Now i need a smart ass reply to get back to the moment again

Please reply if you have experienced with this kind of situation before

dude, we feel you, we really do, but it looks like she's just being freindly, and maybe a bit sorry for making you feel bad. this post does not signal any real interest to me. conker hit the nail on the head, MOVE ON! if anyone else has another opinion....

You still don't get it don't you? Sorry if I'm harsh. This one is over. The fact she replied doesn't mean she's interested at all. Just move on already. You kissed, so that means you can game if you aren't so obsessive about the girl. Consequently you will find another hot girl. And another one... and so on. That's the game. This is how it is. Why are you so obsessed with her? As for your age I don't know, but you don't seem to be at an age to get married and stuff.

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Believe me dude i already fucked a girl in these two weeks after my last text to her.

But she is strong and big challenge and the way she stopped me to advance her was a rude shock to me.I want to penetrate and then move on.

another issue is she is from costarica and she is learning english also the same time.

I have completely 0 emotion level with her.I just like her silicon boobs and big booty nothing else

If you guys are real player please throw the ideas that's where we will be different from average dudes

Trust me dude the line
"Have a great day " she used to send me in morning most of the time when we were on dates

I am not sure whether she doesnt know what to text because she is learning English now or something else

Great. Now my ex will think I'm still in love with her because when I speak with her I occasionally tell her the exact same words I used to when we were together. Didn't know that's a sure sign. Thanks dude. /sarcasm over/

"Have a great day" means...well surprise: Have a great fucking day. Women can sometimes be really hard to figure, but sometimes they really do say exactly what they mean.

Also...why all this fuss when you just want to fuck her? Also...why would you stupidly go on about emotional rants and how you feel when you just want to fuck her? Why lie? Is this that you think makes us different? Hell no fucking way.

I'm not a player. I just like women. And I like them for what they are, not exclusively for they have a pussy. And they sense, and like this. I'm always as honest with everyone as I can possibly be. Because I don't care about my "chances" or "fucking this particular girl for her silicon boobies". I care about living my life happily and that is a 100% independent from "big booties". No... I'm not asexual. I do pick up girls when I want to fuck, but I'm honest with them.

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Everyone is right, and you are lying to yourself and you're lying to us when you say you "just want to fuck her". That doesn't even change anything even if it were true - she's lost interest in you.

If you think pickup arts is about saying some magical thing that will get any girl into your bed no matter what, then you are very mistaken.

You're not interested in reading the advice I gave you, so there really isn't any point continuing.

You're obsessed, and you're obsessed because you can't deal with the pain that you lost a girl as hot as her. It's not her that's so important to you, you don't even know her, you just know how hot she is. And there are so many other hot girls out there.

If you were true to your words and just a player, you'd just move on and find another, equally hot girl.

Right now, you are displaying text-book "one-itis".

You're asking for advice, this is it. It's all here in this thread. You're just not reading any of it because it's not what you want to hear. Well, to bad. Everything here is the truth.

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i think one thing that hasn't been brought up is you kind of have a backward idea of recovery. pickup isn't about lying to a girl. i know in the movies, no matter how angry the girl is, if the guy stands out in the rain and begs for forgiveness and gives a beautiful speech about love, she'll run into his arms and be with him forever.

that. doesn't. work. it just doesn't. the best thing you can do when a girl shows waning interest is to beat her at her own game. send HER short, snippy texts. BE busy.

so what you've been saying is, you really just want to fuck her. so what good does sending emotional texts do? just NEVER EVER do it unless you honestly mean it. which you shouldn't, because we're all on the journey to become great at picking up women, not just one.

and like the above guys said, know when to quit. this one's done. it doesn't matter that she's being civil, she just doesn't want to feel like she's a bitch. move on. don't TELL her you're moving on... the only thing that could possibly resolve this is leaving her alone.

there was a chapter in Paragon Project: The Crash Course (which you should check out, it's free) that goes into exactly what this is. the reason why you'll be able to get a hookup one day and NOTHING the next, is because your actions aren't congruent to what she saw in you on the night you hooked up. in all honesty, it sounds like you played your cards right on the first night, and sometime in the middle of Day 2, when she gave you a tiny bit of resistance, you transformed into a sissyman. THAT you can't recover from. because the message you've sent was that the person who she thought was funny, light, and interesting, is now serious and clingy. no more texts, no more emails.

meet another gorgeous woman and restart!

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