Ok so I met this HB8 in a bar we hit it off and I successfully took her to several different bars we ate together ended up spending about 6 hours together laughed the whole time a fair bit of kino, managed to K & N close. Before she got her brother to come and "rescue" her from me.

I played a pretty good text game, playfull negging, push pull etc.

She has been calling me a player and all that jazz, so I juggled a bit of AFC in there and I think I found the perfect balance for her since I have a solid text game she has assigned me higher value/frame. Although I have a bit of oneitis for her since she was really fun to hang out with that night not sure I can help it unless it turns out she is a bitch.

She seems pretty into me and we are meeting again this Saturday.

She seems quite shy and I'm wondering how to open the day2.5 (alot of text work has been put in) since we already made out would opening with a quick kiss on the lips&hug work on a girl thats shy? I still want to be confident because I know she likes it but don't want to put her in shock and could easily greet her more AFC and progress from there.

So whats the risk/reward from anyone who knows more about shy girls? How should I approach our next contact at the start (will lack of alcohol make her uncomfortable with a forward approach)?

TL;DR

Any advice please?

Getting close to when we are meeting again and I'm just worried I might make her uncomfortable if I greet her too strongly?

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In exactly the same situation as you in terms of, met a girl, got her number, made out with her etc. Have now got a day 2 set up and having the same thoughts.

I personally think that opening with a kiss on the lips is too much; I'm thinking of going for a kiss on both cheeks (I'm in UK so can possibly get away with that continental sorta shit - not sure if that's completely out of the question if in the USA) - I am very new to this so don't really know but that's what I personally feel comfortable doing.

Good Luck

Sounds good but not sure I could pull it off!

Yea I took out that section due to it making my post so long think it deterred people from bothering to read/reply.

Thanks though, I don't have too much experience with a girl that was this shy, don't want to blow it by coming on too strong at first.

LBot,

With a girl shy like this you really want her to feel comfortable in each part of the process you are taking her through before moving on to the next step. Any wrong turn can sour the mood for the rest of the date, even though she won't tell you that you did anything wrong, cause she's too shy to talk about it.

I say open with a warn hug and a peck on the cheek. Definitely keep eye contact going with girls like this. If you allow your mind to wander off or look at other women she may easily get worried you don't like her. Girls like this need a healthy amount of reassurance regarding "WHY" you like them.

You'll get it asked to you a lot by some women and if you know to go ahead and tell them it helps things a lot. I would have a list of a few things in my mind ready to go about why you like her so much or why you enjoy spending time with her. Again, this is that mental hand holding where you are making her feel comfortable.

Otherwise, she is going to be worried you are going to go to fast OR this is all a big game and you don't really like her. She'll pull out every excuse in the book as to why you two shouldn't be together because she's shy and insecure. Remember words are great in telling her but your actions are going to be key here. Holding her hand in public, keeping good eye contact, great listen skills, are all going to really come into play with a girl like this.

Best of luck bro!

Jon

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Thanks Jon!

As soon as I was reading that post it was like you knew her! Crazy stuff...

Thanks alot your advice is really helpfull and I can go in with a plan that won't make her too uncomfortable, she has already warned me that she will watch my eyes especially when I meet her sister.
I've already set up a plan taking her to a place that has steep stairs leading up to a great bar/fun restuarant chance to apply kino right away by guiding her up the stairs with a gentle hand on the small of her back from basically right after the hug/peck.

The good news is there is already plenty of reasons why I like her not just looks wise so I can be genuine when I give her validation, seem's like rules have to be ignored for girls like this.

Thanks for the awesome advice I feel much more comfortable that I won't blow this after your post.

LBot

Listen up! JSmooth's advice is spot on!

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I know technically a field report but it's more relevant to this topic as I was in exactly the same situation as LBot and used the advice people posted here.
Decided on my D2 yesterday to just open with a hug like JSmooth recommended.

(I've always been bad at kino so was focusing on that mainly yesterday)
We went to a bar and on the way did some gentle kino, arm taps etc.
The in the bar just slowly escalated, when joking round - touches on the leg, playful pushes.
Going to the bar I'd lead her with a hand on her lower back and then back sitting down by then I could put my arm around.
Then got a taxi back to mine.

First time I've practised anything i've learnt since starting last week so I'm still probably pretty bad at it but was happy with the result

If you get time LBot, please pop down a report here so people can see how, from your question and people's advice, you managed to progress.

Well it was successful, it was a really slow start had trouble going in for the hug when I met her as she came and walked along side me. Hard to describe how it happened but anyway we went to the store got some drinks had those in a park before going to the restuarant. On the way to the restuarant had the first chances to apply kino.

Dinner was pretty crappy and unappetising the cocktails were all good. Since she is new to the city and had lost her bearings managed to make a bet out of some things like where a park she had once been was and thats how I got the first kiss of the night. Thanks to JSmooths advice I kept solid eye contact with her and avoided letting them drift off onto other woman I noticed around.

From after dinner onwards also following Jons advice I kept an arm on her shoulder or small of her back as we moved through public.

It had been a while since I was last spending alot of time in town and tried to take her to a few places I thought she would like. 4 of the places had changed or shut down... Could not even find a decent pool place that served alcohol spent alot of time wandering around. Possibly one of the worst dates I have taken someone on due to this, as I broke away from my original plan for what we were doing.
Apparently I was also complaining alot.

Ended up going to an irish pub and drinking in a booth there for the remainder of the night. Time to leave She was dropping hints that I was coming back to her place so that is what I did.

Once there she was saying I had invited myself back I played along with that to get rid of any ASD/LMR.

Ended in success.

Things I did wrong: Too much negging I got her into a pretty self concious state almost to the point of me looking like an asshole. Complaining about the lack of decent bars around etc. she called me out on complaining several times.
Drinking too much, not sure how charming I can be when I'm that pissed.

Things I did right: Took her to several parks, always looking for a good oppourtunity to have a quick kiss. Made her feel safe. Did not let the slightly awkward start take me off my game and managed to quickly escalate to where I wanted things to be. Did what had to be done to make her feel like it was me that took myself back to her place rather than trying to neg her on it which was totally tempting.

Negging girls like this is a death sentence for your game. Its cool to tease from time to time but you have to be super careful with negging. With girls this shy it almost always goes bad as you found out. You have to really be careful with that strong of game with girls like this.

Sounds like you did pretty well. I'd definitely caution you about beating yourself up in front of your date about things not going well. Remember, keep a positive mental attitude at all times. This is super attractive by the way. No matter what happens you keeep a smile on your face and roll with it.

If you get pissed over little things like a placed being closed, and things of that nature the girl is thinking "What is he going to be like in a relationship when they are bigger problems?" These are thing women think about. Keep that positive attitude as best you can regardless of what happens. Learning to control you emotions and attitude is a big thing about pickup. Its okay to show emotions at times or be frustrated but keep smiling.

I'm glad to hear that the kino, eye contact, and the bouncing locations worked out so well for you. You did a lot of things right on your date, and you've learned from the mistakes you did make so all in all a good date and report.

Jon

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She is asking for a 2 day holiday in bed, sounds great but worried that is a whole lot of bonding time in such a short period. I'm not capable of I'd say more than 3-4 times in a day should I just sleep/pretend I'm asleep the rest of the time?

Or just cut it short?

don't be a fag. just go fuck her. what are you waiting for? clearly she wants you.
you did everything ok and you got the girl and now you want to neg even more? wtf is wrong with you?

Yea I will. But for the whole weekend? I'm not negging anymore either, was crushing her even though they were just playfull.