Life's a blur...

Papi Lindo · Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:34 pm Post subject: Life's a blur...

One of my first few nights on the field I maintained a relatively high energy level and I was able to open a few sets. One particular example that comes to mind is when my friends and I approached a seated group of three women. For the sake of brevity I became too enthralled in my target when I got to A3 and even C1. I made the dire mistake of making the stakes of our shallow relationships too high by suggesting we go to dinner in a very fancy restaurant. Due to the fact that we had to do a time bridge – this hurt my game when I tried to get back in touch with her. One of the important things that we must never forget is that no matter what stage you are in the age old adage applies: walk before you run!

Interestingly enough the girl ended up calling me back the next day during my sleeping hours. I had discussed with the whole situation with my wing and we had both come to the agreement that in order to prompt a response I was going to need to deescalate the form of communication. Making a phone call to a complete stranger can be rather nerve racking. After some careful thought, and when you see the actual response we mustered you will think it pathetic, we decided that appealing to a girl’s logic would work best.

In essence, we merely need to reinitiate communication and the emotional approach; given the A3/C1 stage was synonymous to walking on egg shells. As such the text ended up being: “I am getting a new apartment. Queens or Manhattan?” To come full circle, during my initial interactions with the lady, she had disclosed that she had recently moved to Queens. This was one of two popular night scenes for the city. Manhattan was, evidently, the other.

A small divergence lets us come full circle. The culmination of what was said, coupled with the de-escalation, worked wonders because she called back. Interestingly enough, she called and never touched on any of the topics that I had discussed in my text or voicemail. At this point the girl had become a mere part of the game. I was excited about the unfolding of the events and how I would play this game during the next level/stage/scenario.

Jay Wa · Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject:

Papi Lindo, welcome to the forum! Clearly, you have a knack for writing (though I was a bit confused with some of the things in your story).

Papi Lindo

As a true Rookie I finally managed to crash and burn on this wave of fortuitous events. After delaying my call back beyond what we had initially agreed I began the phone call.

Immediately she picks up and I'm greeted by the standard, automated response that all people give. "Hello?"

I respond immediately with the traditional: "Hey Ashely, it's Peter, what are you up to?"

Here we reach the pivot of what was to be the ruination of anything I had accomplished. The foundation I had established began to melt and as I stood at the precipice of oblivion...I jumped and so began the ending of a great first attempt.

She informed me that she was at Wal-Mart. Like a fool I came unprepared into the conversation. I should have made decisions on the flow of the conversation and what words would be exchanged. Instead I decided to free-style and I paid dearly like a horse with blinders. I dared asked the question: "Want me to let you go?" to which she responded "No."

Why I didn't impose my frame escapes me now, however Wal-Mart is far too distracting of an atmosphere to really captivate a girl's attention when you are still trying to build rapport.

Granted, after running through the conversation with my wing I had some solid lines and some catastrophic failures. Sounded nice on paper -- and even in these forums -- but their actual application was poor. Now, I exhibit a lot of positive energy so my lack of enthusiasm was not the culprit. I do concede again, it was a lack of preparation.

After going through sinuous waves of laughter and IOD we came to a point were I felt that she was disinterested. Unfortunately, this strange of addition for the game does not extend towards the female herself. Perceiving that I had made a mistake and learned a lesson I quickly became apathetic to the conversation. No longer did I want to converse with the means to my development and I realized that I needed to cut the conversation short or I would start to drown.

The phone call ended abruptly -- followed by a text giving her the opportunity to contact me at a future time. I left the ball in her court but the future looks grim for this project. As odd as it may seem, I might have NOT cared too much...for I gave her plenty of chances to get off the phone and she denied each one. By giving up I relinquished the chance I had at salvation, because no matter how deep in the quick sand you may be there is always a rope out there if you can find it.

Jay Wa · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject:

Again, very eloquent post. Though it may hurt your game if you speak to her like that. Remember, appeal to her emotions, not to logic.

The fact that she didn't want to get off the phone with you is an IOI, but you need to lead the conversation; take control of her situation.

For example, "Oh, your at Wal-Mart. You look more like a 'Target' girl."

Continue: "So what are you going to buy me?";
"I bet I can guess what you're looking at right now."

The idea is to engage her in the activity that she is already taking part in. Convince yourself that you're at Wal-Mart with her. If you were there, how would you act? What would you be thinking?

. . .ya dig?

KingMidas · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject:

Papi Lindo · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject:

If it makes any sense I tend to write like I think and talk much like I act. You can believe me when I say that a real life conversation in no way mirrors my poor attempts at being verbose =P

JayWa, I have to agree with the above posted, your suggestions were solid. As I mentioned before it truly was a lack of preparation that inhibited my ability to control the conversation. The bottom line is to engage her emotionally...and I had plenty of opportunities.

Kudos on the tip to place yourself in her surroundings.

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