Okay, so my brother has a girlfriend which he's had for a year now. Now she happens to have a sister which is now single and I happened to meet her while out drinking, she got hit on a lot of boys so she said I had to act like I was her boyfriend, well she left with her friends, but I got her snapchat. Just sent some stupid pictures etc for laugh. Few weeks passed, but then we all went on a trip together, plus a few friends.

We went out drinking afterwards and we had a great time, talked a lot, and I kind of felt interested in this sister, I went a little bit flirty maybe, but I knew it was wrong so instead of bringing her to my room to afterparty which was the plan, some stuff changed and I just followed her back to the hotel she lived on so we didn't end up doing something stupid. Just kept cool about it and walked back to my hotel. Well after that weekend, no textes or chat, just stupid pictures on snapchat.

Then the next weekend, I went out drinking again. Of course I met her and we greeted, I was minding my own business and she hers. I went to the club next door for a while, and then I came back. Met her again and we started talking, went for a few shots. Then she started acting really weird, she got hit on by a lot of guys which was cool with me, i'm not that jealous guy, then she comes with me and tell me to grab her arm next time and pull me away from them, and that we're a couple from now, I just smile, not giving a shit and find it kind of cute that she says that. Well she end up telling everyone she talks to that we're a couple, and we end up kissing because someone asked us to do it, at the time it was just for fun. Can't really remember how it all happened, but yeah so we went outside so I could grab a cigarette, she leaned on my shoulder and she talked about what she wanted and stuff, then she ask me if I wanted to be her boyfriend, of course I didn't take it serious so I just said yeah, then she ask the guy standing next to her if he wants to be his boyfriend, then whisper some shit to him and he's like "Noo I'm sorry but I can't. I'm so sorry, but you want him, sorry but you want him" Made me laugh my ass off, cause it was so obvious..

Yeah, we went inside to get her jacket and get some food and I happened to hold her neck and we were suddenly making out, think it was me who kissed her. "The hell am I doing" i was thinking. Anyway she then decided that it would be a wise idea to grab a few more shots + beer, she write her pin on her card, then she ask me to do it, weird I thought. she takes the shot, then go for her jacket, I grab the beer and go with her. and boom there she fell, completely drunk. I drank the beer full speed, helped her up. She get's thrown out, I have to stick with her, she then even get so bad she can't even walk, so I just end up outside on a bench taking care of her and try to get in touch with her sister, which completely ignores the fact that she needed her. Police comes because my stupid cousin contacted them, but I talked my way out of it, and we got her standing on 2 feets again and walked a bit were cars were allowed to drive, then we just threw her on the shoulder and suddenly a friend of mine drives by and I get her home. I follow her to the toilet, and we both laugh when I had to hold her walking in the stairs and it looked so retarded. I then get down, and I put her to bed, I didn't get hold of any to watch over her in case she would puke herself to death, so I was afraid I just had to leave her, but then she ask me to stay with her so, yeah okay then. So I told the guys who were with me that they could just drive. We didn't get much said, i just stroke her face, she looks at me smiling and I start laughing, she asks why I am laughing. I was just thinking "what a fucked up night, and what am I doing here, this will be akward tomorrow" and shit like that

Well I didn't get to say why, cause after that it all goes like fucking *BAM* and guess what her father comes in, tell me to get the fuck out, ask me what the fuck we had done to his daughter. I explained in a really calm way what happened, and he calmed down. And I just walked out, luckily my friends was still there so I got myself home.

Next morning she calls me, asking what happened, she didn't remember shit after the last shot she said. What was the last shot for her? I just told her what happened without telling every detail, I thought of it as a one time shit that just happend and didn't want to make shit akward for us in the future.

We use to watch movies together with my brother and his girlfriend and a few other friends, and go to the cinemas as well just acting like friends, well we're not friends either since we don't talk much, but you get what I mean. So we watched a movie a few days after, last time before I had to go to work for a couple of weeks and she came and she sat next to me, I felt fucking akward, I didn't know if she remembered anything at all or if she did, but probably not.

Well so I went to work, and guess what.. Her sister finds out what really happened last time we were out drinking and we have a huge fight making me go insane, she's so full of shit I don't even know how my brother can stand her. First of all it was the fact that she was pointing out it was all my fault, which it wasn't, I don't read minds. And the fact that I took good care of her sister and get shit from her trying to tell me that I only wanted to get laid, like that was my true reason for helping her, in my eyes that is rape which means she's calling me a rapist. Made me so pissed, even though it could have happened if it wasn't her drinking to much, not going to deny it.. But afterall it wasn't just a random girl I could just leave, I was with her so I felt responsible for taking care of her and she is indeed my brother's girlfriend's sister. apart from that she just said "Your brother and I are a couple" and that me and her sister are not allowed to see each other etc. So yeah I said I understand and we came to an agreement, most likely she've told her sister the same.

So now I'm home, we rarely send snaps to each other, we went out drinking. She went with another guy(mr. nice guy) I know that was at the same party, I got pissed at my brother telling me that I had to pay because i had the most money, i threw all my cash in his face and ran off from them and inside the club. so she asked next day were I went, I told I went to the club, she said she thought it was closed and she said she went to a shitty party with mr nice guy.

Next day same shit happens. My brother and his girlfriend had a fight, and everyone split so they ruined the rest of the night. So mr. nice guy was with us, and he follows her while she's crying and being a total asslicker. I meet her in the stairs next door club with him, just look at her, touch her arm and ask if she's allright, which she was obviously not then I just leave cause she was with him, didn't want to be in the way you know, I know how annoying it would be if I was in his shoes. So my brother's girlfriend ask me to get her sister to call her, I just messaged her and ask her to contact her sister, she said she didn't want to and asked if I was angry with her, and I explained I wasn't, and then we talked about my brother and her sister how f*****d up they are, and she agree... then I ask where she is and she said "at f*****g "nice guy" place laying on a f*****g couch, when I could have gone to an afterparty" I asked her if she wanted me to get a cab to get her home instead, but she didn't reply or see the message so probably fell asleep, don't know don't care. She reply next day with two ":/ :/" smilies to me. Then I talk to my brother's girlfriend at the same time and she ask if I was angry with her sister. So I asked her sister if she's allright today, and why she thinks i'm angry with her, did I look angry? So I just explained maybe I wasn't in a good mood because of how my brother and her sister fucked up the night out, and just wanted to get home which I did, and I didn't want to be in the way of her while she was being with mr. nice guy, how I don't want her sister to say something more to me cause she sent signs to me and acting two faced whole night out.

Well well this weekend, we out of the blue while I was out shopping christmas presents n stuff decided; f**k it let's drink tonight are you with me?? So me, my brother and his girlfriend, + 2 more guys. Well her sister didn't want to come at first cause she was playing this new game she got, but maybe she was coming later. So then she called me to talk with her sister and she was suddenly going out with us, i then messaged her if the game was getting to hard since she decided to come with us, no she had sat for 10 hours playing and was bored. So she came there, and we all drank, I acted like i'm allways, not showing interest. I get a friend to drive us, and she comes with me and my cousin. We go to the club, buy drinks, too much and cheap. We talk about her deciding to come out with us, what she's gaming, and she had almost finished the game and she said I could borrow her game, but I was afraid I couldn't cause my playstation is broken, so she offered me to borrow hers, she had 2 in her house but I had to delete GTA because it was only 12gb version haha..

It was a short night out for her, I went to the bathroom and when I got out, she and her sister talked and she was crying, I don't know what it was. Then she sat down with us crying a bit more, don't remember if I sat next to her. then she get's thrown out, her sister ask me to take care of her, but crying and shit she pushes me away, so I don't know if it had something to do with me not sure if i heard something, don't remember just have the feeling, i asked her sister what it was, and i didn't get to know so yeah. Anyway, I didn't let that stop me so I took her with me and talked a little harsh to her so she got her shit a little bit together, her sister gave me her card to pay for the cab and I brought her home to her house, she puked in the cab, not much but it came a little out so was expensive for her sister, I got some of it on me.. We walked around the house to find that all the doors were closed and almost iceskating, but the father came out so I just gave her to him, and told her that we could talk tomorrow, I had learned by last time i thought, plus I had to get back to her sister cause I had her card. I went out to town again and partied my ass off. A couple of hours later she back home, phones me and she asked me in a sad but serious and desperate way to get my ass to her, and I thought a little as i was walking with the others including her sister, but I just ran off and were hiding myself until they were gone, and I told her that I would come to her.

Got myself a cab, and she phoned me like 5 times in 15 minutes to ask when I was there, got in to her and she was all over me, into her bedroom it went. I threw my jacket off and the shit in my pockets out, and I told her i had to go to take a piss, got back and we were wild until I told her I couldn't fuck her, that we would regret this in the morning, mess shit up and if her sister finds out, but she said I didn't have to give a shit about her sister and I said yeah i do give a shit about it, I actually do, but also it was because I didn't want her to think the next day that i'm that type of guy that's all in for sex. Fuck I wanted her so badly but yeah, we ended up just making out and her falling asleep in my arms, she told me she had told her father that I was going to eat dinner with them the next day hah.. woke up next day.. We're not saying much to start of with, she got me water, I asked to use her phone to get someone to pick me up before her sister shows up haha, and that guy I called screams so she hears it "yeah did you fuck her" was a little embarrassing but I just, "shut up, no, good bye" we talked a little like nothing had happened and I got my way out safely. well almost, her dog was chasing me and barking

Now here's the case which all this have been leading up to, we went out that same day again, we met at the club. Things started off well, and I was with her being really stupid with my santa hat and letting her film me while i was acting like a retard for entertainment. Then later she suddenly says she needs to spend some time alone. I think it's just that she wants us to keep apart from each other which I can understand, I tried a little later again to talk to her and it went good, but then it went bad again, and mr nice guy showed up in between.. I just talked to her and asked if she wanted to take a cab with me cause i was going the same way, well really I just wanted to talk with her about what this is. She said she had something to explain to mr nice guy she just said she was sorry and gave me a kiss on the cheek and I said yeah it's cool and i went to my friend like it was nothing, which had a ton of stoners at his house, so it was a sober dealer there who I know and he drove me home and I bought a little from him didn't want to stay there with a bunch of losers. Next day I write to her and tell her that I felt like a jerk for not leaving her alone and shit, that I should've stayed on the club next door like her sister wants me to (her sister talks alot of shit behind my back lately)

She then responded "I don't know what it is, I feel like everythings going back and forward, and it may sound a bit retarded, I'm not that kind of person that just waits for things to happen, I feel like a shit kid pulling myself away before everything goes to hell, maybe that's what i've done with you" I then tell her that I agree, that she's all way back and forward, i don't know where I stand. She says one thing but do another, and it makes me so confused that I can't do anything else than feel like a complete retard for coming with her as i promised her sister to stay away from her.

then she says "Yeah, it's just that it's so hard when my sister says various things, and everythings turns in to a mess. And I have no idea what to do, it's not like I actually want to stay away from you, but no mather what I do it's "wrong" if you get me? Apart from that I want to say i'm so sorry for the way I've behaved, I feel like a total idiot."

It made me think for some hours while i was busy with not having time to respond, and maybe it would have been better to never have said something afterwards, I don't know but i probably fucked up everything and made things akward. I'll just wait and see what happens. I will meet her again, that's a sure thing so..

Well so what i said was

"I've just been thinking and i don't know what the fuck to say, don't know how you'll take it.

I get what you mean with that it's wrong whatever you do. My problem is that I shake things up between you and your sister(her sister told me it's not that good between them, but it's getting better) I don't give a shit if she thinks i'm a dick, but i'm stuck with her as long as she's with my brother, maybe it will end up that we can't stay in the same room without making everyone in a bad mood, it's not only about me. well it could be something that will pass, i have no idea, i don't know her. My brother probably dont give a fuck so it's a lot easier for me in this case than it is for you to not give a fuck about your sister. Of course I want everyone to be happy, but it doesn't feel right that I shall kneel for her or anyone else for doing what I want myself or feel to do, that's the way it is, if she's got a problem with it I think she should sort that out for herself. She doesn't respect me either, we're both taking a piss on each other behind each others back allready. You don't have to say you're sorry, just do what you want to do i'm not your boss or anything like that, just don't want to sit her and not knowing what's going on that's all.

So she never replied, I'm sitting here for 2 days now, thinking what I should do. Last time i was interested in a girl was like 2 years ago and my ex jumped in between and my "good and close friend" backstabbed me and it made me so emotinal it ruined my ongoing thing, i lost interest of her just making me depressed, it's a long story.. I've tried with other girls after but it didn't feel like this, was more just for fun not my type. I really like when I'm around this girl, she's special, makes me happy, good humour, treats me well, think we got a lot in common, at least music, possibly movies, she like games as well obviously. It's just so fucking sad with all this shit holding me back because it's "wrong"

So I don't know what anything of what she said means, did she mean what she said or was it just an excuse to not go further cause she's not interested? is she afraid cause she's been hurt, last guy cheated on her? Was it just her being drunk? some say drunk words are sober thoughts. yeah so I have lots of thoughts

I've talked to my best bud, he says I should go for what I want and not give a shit about her sister, but I should also reconsider my future with her as she doesn't go to school for the moment, maybe she won't finish either, well maybe that's a thing but does it matter? I like her so far and would get to know her better. I myself have a really good job that I know people envy me for, which will be even better after some years, I'm a nice guy, but also a little part of bad, like being mystical don't tell people everything about me, but i'm down to earth, not the best looking man but I don't look like shit either, tall.
I'm 20 now and I'm really ready to settle down, lived a crazy life since age of 13 with short breaks of calming down, seen so much and done so much, but i'm so bored of being alone, much of what i do has turned boring, i'm bored of my friends, they are getting older as well, and I got maybe the girl in front of me.
Yesterday i just laid in bed stoned all day just to keep my mind on something else, now i'm out of it.
I think a girl would be good for me, make me stop drinking every weekend and do other more healthy things.

Meh..so

Do I still have a chance if I ever had, what do you guys think about whole this? Shall I just wait and see or should I just let her go and wait till next time there's a girl that I may like and nothings in the way?
I haven't grown any strong feelings for her so it's not a problem to leave her alone, but still i'm interested and need some advice.

Thanks

Alright man, first of all, your post is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long. I stopped reading at halfway, and I usually knock down two big ass books per month. You don't need to detail every minute of your night.

Second, I don't get why it is wrong to hit on your brother's girlfriend's sister.

Third, why do you get into so much trouble for a situation that seems insanely complicated, for a girl for whom you said you haven't grown strong feelings for ? If you really don't like her that much, how come you are considering your future together (she doesn't go to school, so what ?) whereas you haven't even started dating ?

And finally, did you apply any of the principles that are taught and discussed on these forums ? It sounds more like oneitis than sarging to me.