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Shaun
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: I cant get past the boyfriend defense Reply with quote

I dont know what it is but here in the UK it seems like all girls have a boyfriend. Im sick and tired of sarging, getting attraction, IOI's and building comfort and rapport only for me to try and close and them telling me no sorry i have a boyfriend. It really frustrates me cos i dont know if i did something wrong or if they really have a strong seriouse relationship. Even when i try to do BF destroyers like, good he can cook us breakfast in the morning and then changing the subject as soon as it gets to any type of close Boom the boyfriend defence comes up. What am i doing wrong? Have i just been extremely unlucky? And what else can i do to get past this defence and get a close.

All help appreciated.
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Archangel White Rose
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favorites are:

HB: I have a boyfriend
White Rose: Great! Then he can make us dinner or something.

or White Rose: Hey, hey! You don't need to tell me ALL your problems.

Also good White Rose: I feel sorry for him already.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:43 pm    Post subject: Re: I cant get past the boyfriend defense Reply with quote

Shaun wrote:
I dont know what it is but here in the UK it seems like all girls have a boyfriend. Im sick and tired of sarging, getting attraction, IOI's and building comfort and rapport only for me to try and close and them telling me no sorry i have a boyfriend. It really frustrates me cos i dont know if i did something wrong or if they really have a strong seriouse relationship. Even when i try to do BF destroyers like, good he can cook us breakfast in the morning and then changing the subject as soon as it gets to any type of close Boom the boyfriend defence comes up. What am i doing wrong? Have i just been extremely unlucky? And what else can i do to get past this defence and get a close.

All help appreciated.


My guess is that you aren't building enough value (DHV) or attraction to supplant her current option. (her boyfriend) You have to make your value higher than his without directly doing it if you know what I mean. Use this through stories of how you travel, all the fun you have, the friends you hang out with. Trust me, she'll think.....hrrmmm.....let me compare what I could have with what i currently have.

Unfortunately, it happens everyday. Girlfriends cheat on their boyfriends. Wives leave their husband for another man....etc. This is why, they found a person with higher value than their current mate.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

White_Rose wrote:
My favorites are:

HB: I have a boyfriend
White Rose: Great! Then he can make us dinner or something.

or White Rose: Hey, hey! You don't need to tell me ALL your problems.

Also good White Rose: I feel sorry for him already.


Amazing way to recover.

Game. End. Done.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't typically use boyfriend destroyers. I don't see the sense in destroying a happy home. If a girl tells me she has a boyfriend I respond with "That's great, how long have you guys been together?" At which point she'll respond with something like "We've been together for about 6 months, but sometimes I'm not sure how I feel about him". If you're really intrested in her realtionship she's going to tell you if she's happy or not at which point you decide whether or not to make your move.
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