Howdy, I'm really new to all this, So I'm not going to go much into detail. But tomorrow I'll be turning 26 and still haven't scored. I've had a couple of girlfriends but no relationships that have lasted for more then a couple of months. So I'm going to change all that. I've read Models by Mark Manson and I'm currently reading the Natural by Richard La Ruina. These books have really opened my eyes to how this all works.

A little more about myself: I've moved up to a manager with my job in less then four years. I make good money, somewhat in shape (been working on it for a year and I just have a little bit more to loose), I don't have any problems literally with anything else in life except women... and it drives me up the wall!
I also didn't notice it until I read these books that I was needy as hell and I gave the girls I was talking to, or dating, all the power.

So last night I went out to a club, I usually never go out, I told myself tonight was just to kinda get used to the club scene. I gave myself a mini goal of at least getting one number and to be prepared to be rejected a lot. So talked to about 5 women (two of them were smoking hot) and didn't get any numbers. And my "wingman" is just as bad with women as I am.

Where are some other places that ya'll would try to pick up women other than clubs? Or do I need to avoid these places that have music blasting? There were a lot of hot single chicks there, they had a dance floor, but it was literally impossible to talk to anyone. I thought they would have a break in the music but nope. I was there for over 3 hours.

I guess this starts my journey to becoming better with women and finally score. Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated!

Hi and welcome in this amazing forum