King Korona
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 Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:56 am Post subject: how to sarge facebook! |
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The Facebook Sarging Method 1
This has all been field tested with amazing results.
The Facebook sarging method can be broken into 5 parts.
1. Open with Neg
2. Opinion Opener
3. Close for MSN
4. Comfort through MSN
5. Close for number and Day 1.
Open with Neg
Girls on facebook get opened with all kinds of crazy things from all kinds of guys. Your first message should be creative and catch her attention among 50 other messages. Make her think, as why would he say that?
I use the following neg:
Subject: Question?
Are you wearing a wig...........or is that your real hair?
When I start facebook gaming I send this exact message to about 10 to 20 girls and at the very least I get 60% reply, sometimes as high as 90%, and the hotter the girl the better the replies.
I always sign my messages. People tend to like things that are familiar to them. Proximity and Recognition play a huge psychological role in who we make friends with. By signing your name, you are subconsciously building comfort with this girl. And use your PUA name, Its Unique Plus she will probably ask you about your name and this will help build a good conversation and more comfort. Also you should of course have a good DHV story for your name and how you got it.
My very next message will go into an opinion opener.
**Another important note here. DO NOT REPLY when you read her messages. Wait at least a day, maybe two. Think about when you are awaiting a message from a girl, how do you feel when you finally get it? Make her look for your message, let her look at her sent folder and see that you read it and did not respond. YOU are not a facebook dork, YOU are not a facebook addict and YOU dont rely on facebook as an easy way to talk to women b/c your not a social retarded. Make her wait.
Opinion Opener
No matter how she replies to your opening neg, you want to cut that string fast and move to an engaging subject. This will immediately make her interested in you, as you become a very interesting person, and a little mysterious.
I use the Lesbian Girlfriend opener, I do it well and its by far my favorite right now.
Her: Oh its my real hair.....why does it look fake?â
You: Oh. I was just curious. Don't worry it looks nice. While I have your attention, I need a female prespective on something......Say, this guy is dating this girl, and she goes out with her friends, has a few drinks and ends of making out with a random guy at the bar.....Would you consider this cheating?
Her: Blah, Blah, Blah
You: Interesting.....okay, let me ask you this......Take the same scenario, but this time the girl is making out with another girl, and lets say she does this almost every time she goes out.....would you consider that cheating?
Her:Blah, Blah, Blahť (but pay attention to her answer, look to see how hard she hooks. The harder she hooks the faster you can close, if the hook isn't great, you will need to put in more work. I've used this and number closed successfully right here. My number close will be shown below.)
So, she hooks pretty hard. Here's an example of what a girl said, and my next move.
Her: Yes just cuz there is no male competition that doesn't mean that what she is doing is right. If this is a girl you are dating ummmm yeah you need to figure out if she is a just for fun girl for you or if you really want her.
The next question is...do you consider any of the two scenarios, that you have just given me, as cheating, Whats your take on it?
You:
well, this is a situation that my friend Chris is in. he has been dating this girl for about 6 mos and he really likes her. and then she tells him that she makes out with girls all the time. he's not really sure how he feels about it. on one hand, he thinks its hot, but on the other, he fears that he can't satisfy her and that they will never get more serious. my opinion, I think she should have been more upfront with him from the beginning. i'm big on honesty. if you establish the relationship as casual then its fine.
I like your take on things. I have to get some work done, but we should talk some more. do you have mxn. let me get your dmzil. I promise I'll only send you creepy inappropriate messages 9 times per day Wink
You
*at first this might look a little AFC, giving my opinion, but the whole point, of using this opener on facebook is to build comfort. With my profile, my opener, and this opinion stacked, I've already established myself as smart, confident, and interesting. Now I need comfort, comfort, comfort. Remain in control of the conversation, but show that inside you are a genuine guy.
*The last paragraph is a close taken from David Angelo's Sisonpyh, classic post. This is a great post, I suggest reading the whole thing. Easily 90% of the time I get an msn email from this close. And a lot of times I will go for a number close on with the same technique, but the reason I used a email close here is b/c I did it so early. I had only run the opinion opener and that's really it. But our conversation has really hooked this girl and I want to take advantage, keep the momentum rolling, so I suggest if you feel you can close early, close for a email, then you can work more comfort on IM (the cube) and easily close for the number and the day1.
If she doesn't hook very good with the opener, then I usually fluff a little, throw in a DHV about my weekend, and just keep going till I get a good response, then I close. You really want to time the close right b/c you really only get one chance on face book. You don't want to look like your trying hard. If you fail, I usually wait a month and then come back with fluff and try to hook and close again, but thats only if she is really hot And I really want her. Also, if you don't hook good, its a great place to run the Bait, Hook, Reel, Release. Ill use it on her nationality and Ill even cut down her zodiac sign and say why I cant be with her.
Heres an example of one I almost blew, and then managed to recover, solely through getting her to qualify. And it took two attempts, she really hooked hard afterwards:
I had attempted a number close and she asked for my number......
You: I'm not in the habit of giving out my number. you could be a sexual predator Tell me three things about yourself that make you worthy of my number? then, maybe you'll get it.
Her: have more than 3 things to write to you,and really small amount of time to describe myself and all my qualities,and besides,i dont have nerves to advertise myself for a phone number on facebook
so have fun on salsa dance tonight,and see you around
You: ah...you're a fiesty one. as far as my asking you to qualify yourself to me.....I had to. you see, I had the worst relationship ever with a Leo, and I wanted to see how you would respond. I found that this girl lied to me constantly in order to make me happy. she allowed me to completely dominate her. until, i finally got the truth out of her and things quickly fell apart.
I like a girl that challenges me, that stands up for herself, someone i can learn something from. so yeah, i had to test you a bit.
But you seem different. we should meet up sometime for a cup of something wonderfull. maybe we can be friends. talk to me.
You'll never call....b/c who the hell meets friends on facebook anyway, and from my experience Leo is not very adventurous....but I'll bow down and give it to you anyway, xxx-xxx-xxxx.
**I made the mistake of sounding like an asshole, when I asked her for 3 things. On facebook you have to build a shit ton of interest and as much comfort as feasibly possible. This means you might have to say some AFC things to get her to follow you. The above sounds AFC, but it gets her to qualify like mad to me, and sets me up as genuine, honest, and interesting.....the perfect guy to take a chance on and meet in person.
Her Response to the Above: well,thank you for considering me so special to give me your phone numberI am a leo,but i had the best relationship ever with a scorpio,so that leo you had out there,was just mixture of bad planet cohabitations and crossingsI dont lie,because i dont like to be lied to.i rather spill the truth to the face but i discovered that when people know they made mistake,they run away from it and hide.i like to wait for the right opportunity to make stuff clear-lies are not my field,i can get lost in them easily.
And no problem about the friendship,im inand another wrong perception based on your experiences-leos are sooooo adventurousme at least..ill be in the club Home at the guverment friday night with friends,so your welcome to join us,ok?
kisses
p.s.maybe ill call ..when you least expect
So, she goes from being pissed to qualifying like mad, sending me kisses, and asking me to meet her at a club. Needless to say, she called and this one is currently in my rotation!!!
*another note, I always use the word “friend” somewhere in a the conversation. This is another subtle way to get more comfort. And when you see her in person, you are going to build kino and make her forget all about being your friend.
Okay, so back to it, you got the email and you are running good IM game. You run the cube and she loves it. You get her to qualify to you. Run the Bait, Hook, Reel, Release (this is money on facebook and on IM, I love using it ). Tell her why the two of you wont get along. From here I run the following close, taken again from David Deangelos Sisonpyh post.
Well, let's see. what's your schedule for the next few days?
(I chose a time.) Why don't we get together tomorrow at about four. Do you know where the blah blah blah coffee shop is? Great. if we get along, then maybe we can go for a bite to eat. but you know, coffee is a safe bet. this way if you're scary in person, I can say Oh, hey. um. I just remembered that I have to go floss my cat. it's really important. and then we can call it a night. But I think at the very least we could probably be friends.
*you can try to close for the number before or after this, it really doesnt matter. Just keep the comfort up and try to feel the right time. You dont have to go from email to msn to number to day 1. Just do what feels comfortable, and it will work.
Thats basically all I do, and it really works. 7 out of 10 usually reply initially, 3-5 will hook into strong conversations, and 1-3 of those will result in day 1's and f*closes. Considering the difficulty of facebook game, I feel like this is pretty damn good, not only that, Its Consistant , I get these numbers every time. Not only that, my boys that Ive schooled on this are getting them too.
But dont ignore the little things, signing your name, underlying confidence with genuine nice guy qualities, smiles and jokes, getting her to qualify, and anticipating resistance. The more you hit on those things the more success you will have! |
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