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i say neg her till she bleeds

That goes against the whole point of a neg though. To properly neg, you just want to throw them in here and there and catch her off guard (if you constantly neg, then she will lose her interest, because she knows its coming) and make her stop and think a moment about her worth. Just by making her stop and think about what you said, whether it be about her clothing, or her smile, or hair, it will put doubts in her mind and make her personal worth lower. If you are "negging her till she bleeds" obviously you are being too harsh and now you aren't negging, you are de-valuing her, with is what you want her to do, because if you do it, then you are the enemy and can't get in her pants.