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OneManWonder
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:59 am    Post subject: how do you deal with a women wanting you to act like an afc Reply with quote

One of my "girlfriends" doesnt respond well to negs, my i don't need you attitude, and my never giving an inch attitude I'm trying to portray.

Pretty much In order to bed this women I'm going to have to be romantic. I'm going to have to compliment her a lot and tell her sweet things.

David Deangelo tells you to be congruent. I have been really trying to portray that I am a hardass and I don't care while Im out.

So the question. Is it normal for you guys to shift personalities, act like a "Chameleon" *(ike killerjmd said). Is it okay for me to be a wussy boy to this girl?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi charge , the thing here is that most people that read the MM forget what NEG's are all about and another thing let me make this clear:

1. NEG's are used to remove bitch shields and are used to LHV (low her value) and to DHV. You don't need to use NEG's in every interaction, once you finished the attraction phase you don't need to use NEGs (You can sue them in Comfort but these NEG's are different than the the Attraction NEG's.) its time to create a connection there is no need to create more attraction.

2. NEG's are made by two parts an up and a down.

XFMAN : I like your boots (Up), my grandma have a pair like those.(Down)

XFMAN: Your nails are fake, (down) , but they still look nice (up)

If you don't include an up , then the NEG become a line of an arrogant person
If you don't include a down then it is a complement.

So you have to use the up & down correct to have good results , and sometimes by using only a down you make the girl act more bitchy.

3. When you have finish Attraction there is no need to play hard to get (This is a trick one , sometimes you have to , but it all depends on how the girl behave.) There is no need to be hard to get because you too have accepted you both are attracted to each other , she shows attraction in A2 and you show attraction in A3. In Comfort its time to get to know each other, escalate kino and build trust, You can use some NEG's but with the purpose of create rapport and a connection not to lower her.

4. Another common question: Can I be romantic ?

OF course you can, and you will not look like an AFC, this is one of the biggest misconceptions in the community , many PUAs think they can't show love or be romantic , because they are going to loose the attraction of the girl, because they are acting as an AFC.

YOU CAN BE ROMANTIC, but you have to know when and of course don't be TOO CHEESE. You can be romantic and a sweet guy BUT always having the control. IF you still act like the Alpha Male and you don't look needy then you can be romantic once in a while.

**NOTE : Form my experience , you can be a romantic guy but when you all ready have a relationship , You can be romantic in Seduction , during arousal.

But I really recommend all of you to start with little things to see how girl respond to some romantic details and then evaluate the situation and take action
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My opinion on the whole romantic thing is to pick out a day. Find out everything she likes. For example her favorite restaurant, chocolate, movie, blah, blah, blah. Then stack all that into one glorious, romantic evening for her. You can't fail. I'll tell you what not to do, don't change from the guy she's dating to a sweet, loving, ass kissing AFC cause she'll run for the hills. What do most AFC's have other than their own hands and some lotion? So why would you want to transform yourself back into one? You can be nice to her, just make sure its on your own terms. And never stop with the ball-busting...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bro, play the role. I do it all the time, different women like different things. No women fits the model for 'pickup' perfectly, if she wants to be the boss or wants to flattered, flatter her ass then fucking splatter her ass. Plain and simple.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give her whatever she wants; she'll give you whatever you want and then some. The negs are for getting the attraction or retaining your upperhand.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Methuselah wrote:
flatter her ass then fucking splatter her ass. Plain and simple.


Woowwwww i love this
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just realised today that shes given me about five things. Just small gifts but really thoughtfull. I guess its alright if i give her one thing for her five
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