I'm going to rehash my Intro here so that you guys know the premise:

" Hi. I'm an 18 year old Rugby player new to the whole pick up artist thing. Allow me to explain why I'm here (sorry but this requires me to write quite a bit of context).

I have been playing rugby for about 5 years and have taught myself how to program (I know eleven different programming languages and am classified as a genius by my peers). Ironically I belive in commitment, but no one else my age does. As much as I'd like to find that perfect woman and be with her the rest of my life, that is not likely. I have a girlfriend, but I just don't see myself with her a few years down the line. Considering that I'm off to college, I only want to do long distance if I know there's a future. She doesn't want kids in the future, I do. There is also a large gap in intelligence and although I like her, she may not be the one (if she says that she is sure that she doesn't want kids I'm breaking up with her).

A bit more background (sorry):

My parents had a bitter divorce leading me to believe in commitment and that "I love you" should be said before sex (yeah, Idealistic right?) but that's not how the world works. If the world was an Ideal place then I should follow these "Ideal" rules, but the world isn't like that.

Back to the point:

College is a time where I should be able to explore myself sexually (I know this sounds cheezy but you all know what I mean). I want to step up my game. I want one night stands to become a regular thing (like any guy here). I want to score with 9's and 10's. I want to have a threesome.

Now to follow the recommended guidelines for the intro forum:
I'm going off to Colorado. I'm 18 and want got into the game when I started flirting with chicks when I was at orientation. I even could of had a threesome with two attractive chicks (I'd give then a 7 and an 8 ), but because of my girlfriend I said no (I'm not going to start cheating). I realized the formula for luring chicks into a threesome was if there are two friends (cuz it ain't gonna work for a noob like me if there are more) was to chat up the less attractive one and get wait for the more attractive one to get all antsy (she's thinking 'what's going on? I thought I was more attractive'). Then talk up the hot one until its the same deal with the less attractive one, then switch back. I didn't know this then, but I was probably talking too much (which lowered my "value") but they didn't seem to mind. By using my knowledge about computer science and physics [those were there respective majors, lucky I know (they were probably just those ditzy girls that went all like "I want to be a science person" and would drop out and major in art or something later) because those are two of my strong fortes] so I was very knowledgeable about those subjects was able to show off my intelligence. THEY invited me back to their dorms but I said no (thinks were going well with my girl then, all I can think now is "fuck, why did I turn that down" but it seemed right at the time and once again, I'm no cheater).

I started studying pickup recently. I started reading TAO of Badass and also watched the first DVD of PUA Stealth Attraction. The issue is that they're focused around bars and clubs. I now know that it would be much easier for me in college to work on my day game. That and I don't drink (not only is it illegal but I simply don't plan on drinking, why do anything to diminish my intelligence).

My hobbies and Passions include Rugby, Programming (yes I program for fun), Soldering Circuits (yes, once again nerdy, I know), Reading, and learning anything (yep, the internet has more than just cats and porn people. you can actually learn things).

My goals are to simply score... a lot. Hopefully someone here can help me. That moment I described with the two girls was probably my best game ever (you know how you sometimes just have those days where everything is right?). For the most part I'm pretty shy around women. Any help would be appreciated. I'm going to start a journal."

So this is the Journal. It's 2 weeks before college. From what it seems, I have quite a bit of reading to do. I have acquired all of the recommended reading material (except the new ebook by Chief) so I have a lot to tear through. (the reading material can be found here: newbie-faq-introduction-to-pua-vt44144.html ). I'll be journaling everything I'll be doing here and will also want feedback from the more experienced members. I would call myself an AFC by the way. I'm assuming I wont be a true PUA for a while.

I don't mind putting myself in uncomfortable situations. It's the only way to truly get over AA (I don't have a severe case like I used to a few years ago because for some weird reason I went from being the weird programmer guy to the starter on the rugby team that made it to the semi's), but if I ever do chicken out a bit I expect you guys to keep me in check. This journal should be about success, not about avoiding failure.

I'm looking for a Master PUA to mentor me by the way, who's advice will kind of guide me above everyone else. Someone who I can call and hopefully who lives nearby me so he can show me how to truly play the game.

The one thing I'm kinda worrying about asking advice on this site is that I'm sure there are a few people who have read all of the books and stuff but aren't good with women but go masquerading around as PUA's. I don't mind you guys posting some stuff here, but I ain't trying to be a book smart guy on women. Just like with computer programming, I want to be good at applying it XD!

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Rugby 7

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My Workout (Read this): http://bit.ly/1zIQncY

Record: 131
Record: 124

I'm gonna update you guys on the last few days. 3 days ago my girlfriend and I got into a fight (well, more like I insulted her intelligence and she didn't text me for the next few days) because I insulted her intelligence. The day after I pointed out all of the logical flaws in her argument along with an amusing post about my dog (she likes dogs). She doesn't respond, neither do I. During that day, I got bored so I went on yelp to find some good cheap food places (you know, those finds where the restaurant doesn't look good but the food is amazing and cheap) so I found a fish taco place and went over there. The cashier was kinda cute so I flirted with her a bit [I'm guessing my girlfriend and I are gonna break up pretty soon, I want kids and she doesn't (remember when I started dating her I believed in commitment, then the reality about chicks hit me)]. She responded positively but was busy with the restaurant stuff (and the other employees were not happy that I was making her miss out on her duties) so I kinda got a confidence boost.

As a side note, I am a day game person. It's just easier for me. I'll explain why I prefer day game later.

Next day I don't get anything from my girlfriend (she's trying to play mind games and failing, I have a unique ability to simply shut off my emotions).

This morning I get a text from her saying "When are you coming back?" (we live an hour apart). I said 'I don't know.' Neither of us has texted each other back.

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My Workout (Read this): http://bit.ly/1zIQncY

Record: 131
Record: 124

I talked to my girlfriend today. She was the one who broke the silent SPAM she's been giving me. I said I was sorry (I was being a douche that day). She really wanted me to visit her (I've been busy recently). When I told her I couldn't she asked me to SPAM. I told her bluntly that if she didn't want kids, that we should break things off. She said she didn't know. When I talked to her at times she even seemed to like the idea of kids, but in the end she said she didn't know. We hashed things out for a while.

She mentioned a Hypothetical situation how it wouldn't be completely in her best interest because if I found someone who was "perfect" I could break it off. We both (you and me that is, not her. My girls a bit naive) know that this arrangement is only in her best interest. But this gave me the idea to do something that I normally would never do. An open relationship. I said either you break it off with me or we have an open relationship. She chose option #2. So did I. She insisted that there would be rules but I think we both know how this works and how the rules tend to fade.

I really care for her. I just felt like a douche when I asked. In August Wilson's play Fences, Troy justifies the affair that he had by saying that as long he could justify it in his mind, it was right by him. This just seems wrong. I'm justifying cheating. At the end of the book, his brother Gabriel (with a brain injury, so he now thinks he's the angle Gabriel) blows the trumpet to open "Heaven's Gates". It doesn't sound. Although I am an athiest, am I no longer a good person? Am I evil? Will this be a slippery slope like The Gofather or The Portrait of Dorian Grey?

I only know that I've got to do this. It may be wrong, but I have to do this, for myself.

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My PUA Journey (2014): http://bit.ly/1yYjtSV
MY PUA Journey (2015): the-342-journal-vol-2-rugby7-vt187356.html
My Workout (Read this): http://bit.ly/1zIQncY

Record: 131
Record: 124

So I got a text back from my girlfriend saying that she really wants to stay with me, but she doesn't feel comfortable with an open relationship. I texted her saying something along the lines of "That's fine, I completely understand. I think we should break things off then." She said she'd text me in the morning.

Knowing her, she'll probably agree to the Open Relationship again. I'll just play it cool. I give it 70/30.

Not backing down guys. Got one foot in Hell.

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My Workout (Read this): http://bit.ly/1zIQncY

Record: 131
Record: 124

End things with her and stop being a prick. She deserves better than you. You're just scared that you wont get any other girls, so you're playing her. If you're as much of a "genius" as you make out, you'll realise that you're just trying to manipulate her into dealing with your "cheeting" because you know she deserves a lot better, and you're scared that she'll ditch you for a real man. Sorry to hit you with the truth.

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I grew out of the dumb shit I used to say on here. Most of my posts don't represent who I am today at all.

Trying to start a flame war? It's not gonna work. She was the one who agreed. I really don't care what she chooses. I'm leaving it up to her.

Perhaps you don't understand this, but we DO care for each other. The only reason why I'm doing this is because we don't have the same future in mind. She said that might change. I made it clear that I'm going to do this either way to you (the reader).

Please try to keep in mind where I'm trouble coming from. Even though she agreed, My parents went through a nasty divorce. That's why I feel that way. I'm not worried that she is going to ditch me. I'm really not. I am not the jealous type.

Next time (If you decide to follow along Daniels), feel free to post your opinion. Just don't blow up for no apparent reason. I don't think any of us on this forum can say we have the moral high ground. So thank you for your input but please try not to start a conflict for the sake of doing so.

And "cheeting" is spelled cheating...

And "realise" is spelled realize...

Note to the readers: It's Okay to be blunt, but trolling on the forum or trying to provoke a response is not cool.

EDIT: I reread what I wrote yesterday. I see how it comes out that way (that I'm manipulative) because that's how I felt, but after sleeping on it I shouldn't feel that way. She agreed to it. I talked to someone who is close to me and they said I shouldn't feel horrible because My girlfriend initially agreed. Anyway, in the following post (the one with the text where she isn't comfortable with it) there's a chance she'll break up with me. I'm leaving it up to her. I made my intentions pretty clear if she doesn't know what she wants to do.

We're close. She isn't some random girl. Please try to understand that.

Next time Daniels, rather than talking about her dealing about my "cheeting" (which now with a fresh mind I don't see it like that), you can simply write that in your opinion, what I am doing constitutes as cheating and stop trying to bash people you don't know well. I appreciate the input. I do not appreciate the condescending manner in which it was wrote (nor the grammar, lol).

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My Workout (Read this): http://bit.ly/1zIQncY

Record: 131
Record: 124

Well done for the edit, though.

Troll? I'm not being a troll, you're just treating her like shit because of your scarcity mindset. If you care for her that much, stop flirting with other girls while you're in a relationship with her. If you don't like opinions, don't ask for them? You care for her so much that you want to mess with her head by keeping her as a fuck buddy while you're focusing on other girls? If you care for her, get rid of her - like you said, you don't see a future with her, so just let her be happy with a guy who actually deserves her? I've got nothing against having multiple girls at 1 time, but you're just stringing this girl along out of the fear that you won't find anybody else. I an tell by how often you feel the need to bring up your "intelligence" that you enjoy boosting your ego a little too much. You're being really unfair to this girl, and if she had a brain she'd laugh in your face and get rid of you. You're trying to force her into thinking "I'll just do it, its better than losing him. Maybe he'll realise I'm the girl for him" or some bullshit. I'm not even wasting any more time replying on this thread now. This is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. If you're as good as you're making out, man up and get rid.

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I grew out of the dumb shit I used to say on here. Most of my posts don't represent who I am today at all.

Yeah, easy to edit quotes, right?

If that's the impression you got at me (that I'm spineless), then I am afraid that you are mistaken. I appreciate your input. First of all, that stuff in the intro that I wrote about my self is true. I taught my self how to program 4 years ago. 2 years ago, I was hired by a defense contractor as a programmer. Senior year in High School, I programmed an AI. When I define myself, intelligence is the first thing that comes to mind.

I'll take your advice into consideration. Other people have told me other things. I appreciate your advice, but nobody appreciates being insulted. Hopefully you understand where I'm coming from.

So genuinely, thank you for your input. Just don't go out trying to bash me for no apparent reason. Once again, I'm not afraid of breaking up with her. That's probably how it's going to end up today if that makes you feel any better.

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My Workout (Read this): http://bit.ly/1zIQncY

Record: 131
Record: 124

So far on this site, I have met mainly good people willing to help me out. Guys, it's fine to be blunt or call me out. That's fine. Just please don't going around being rude and acting you are above everyone else for no apparent reason.

I appreciate constructive criticism. I do not appreciate blatant insults where the intention is simply to lower someone's morale.

Thank you to those of you that have helped me.

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My Workout (Read this): http://bit.ly/1zIQncY

Record: 131
Record: 124

So we ended up breaking things off. I said something along the lines of "I hope we're still on good terms." She simply said goodbye.

I'm not all that upset. Is that wierd?

Things normally turn out for the best in my experience.


Well, considering I was willing to sacrifice I hope that some of you guys will be able to help me. There was this cute girl from Virginia who seemed interested in me during orientation (who is in my honors program). I may try something with her.

And back to breaking up, it feels weird. I thought it would feel bad but it's kinda a relief.

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My Workout (Read this): http://bit.ly/1zIQncY

Record: 131
Record: 124

So I hit up one of my friends who always is bugging me about how he wants to game with me (He is, however, and AFC, maybe an RAFC at best) about how I broke up. I said that we should work on our day and night game a bit. I know that I'm an AFC and should probably read up on gaming a bit more, but fuck that. I need to get some field experience. After all, this journal is in field experience, right?

The plan is (Ideally) that We are going to go to the mall around 4 to work on our day game. After that, we're probably gonna go to a bar to work on night game.

Although this guy is an AFC, he ain't gonna chicken out. I don't have AA during the day but for whatever reason it gets a bit worse around night. Any advice?

We're doing this tomorrow BTW. I'm psyched. Not nervous, just psyched.

To all of those who PM'd me about breaking up with my girlfriend and about tips for day and night game, thanks. I really appreciate it.

P.S. I'm not going to use any canned B.S. I probably should, but I just wanna work on improvising. From what everyone says, even a newbie has a better chance by just improvising then using that canned stuff.

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MY PUA Journey (2015): the-342-journal-vol-2-rugby7-vt187356.html
My Workout (Read this): http://bit.ly/1zIQncY

Record: 131
Record: 124

That reply has made it obvious that you're nothing but a troll. You're happy to admit that you're treating a girl like shit, but you're scared to admit that you fucked up on your spelling? Notice that the message that I quoted it from, has now been edited. Peace...

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I grew out of the dumb shit I used to say on here. Most of my posts don't represent who I am today at all.

I treated her well. Ugh, I really wish you'd stop trying to anger me Daniels. Based off of your previous 2 posts do you think I'm going to flame now?

You know what? you said you'd no longer post here because this was "bullshit". I broke up with her, Okay? I don't see why you are doing this.

Please stop trolling. If you don't like me for whatever reason, then please stop posting here.

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My Workout (Read this): http://bit.ly/1zIQncY

Record: 131
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You should edit that one too.

I've got nothing against you personally, but I can't seem to stop myself coming back. You keep giving something that prevents me from just letting it go. Well done for calling it off. She needed that.

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I grew out of the dumb shit I used to say on here. Most of my posts don't represent who I am today at all.

I'm not sure whether you meant that as an insult or a complement so I'll just say thanks...

And yes I am going to fix it.

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My PUA Journey (2014): http://bit.ly/1yYjtSV
MY PUA Journey (2015): the-342-journal-vol-2-rugby7-vt187356.html
My Workout (Read this): http://bit.ly/1zIQncY

Record: 131
Record: 124