I think the problem with most communities if you are still in high school is that the material is geared for more mature women, high school pick up in many cases is completely different from many of the techniques juniours and seniours read about. Because of this, different techniques must be used for the same outcome, and because younger girls (in high school etc) havent fully developed their bitch shields and shit tests to such a great extent, purely due to the fact that they have not been hit on as much, then many routines and methords currently in use may not comply. When at school, if you are a closest nerd who trys to reform themselves to become a PUA, many people see the person which you used to be and not what you have become meaning you will not get as much success. Also, when at school going to social environments with new and different people is harder purely due to the fact that you have to be a certain age i.e 18 or 21 for clubbing etc.

For this reason i present all teenagers who are in high school or other bodies of learning who use this site to have another think about the material they are reading and if it will really comply with their social need with the ladies. Therefore, i also propose the high school users of this site to come up with their own material and there own techniques for sarging which are better suited for girls of their age group rather than the material currently being read wihch is meant for a different age bracket, let this post be a starter for something new and different in pickup!

Witz out...

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props to u witz.

this is a very important thing. like im in HS so i know what works an what doesnt. if anything the only things that are really practical for a high-schooler to take from this community as it stands is inner game stuff. like there are some things that will be ok for us to use, (5 questions games, newbie challenge, etc.), but most DHV type things may not work. from experience, girls in high-school tend to know when a guy isnt themselves. so yeah, like witz said, if a usual nerd or shy guy suddenly becomes the extroverted Alpha, there will usually be some uneasy feelings.

with that said, ive read a good bit of material on this site, and much of it ive filtered down so that it can be applied in my own social environment. i dont want to get all into this because well i only do what works for me. unlike some club environments, the high-school scene REALLY differs depending on where you are. one school might have a school full of HB 8-10's with guys that are pure Naturals, or the school can be full of conservative HB 7-8's and guys who are good guys but relationships arent a big importance.

What i can say is that based on stuff ive seen, there are 3 things to PUA in high school that are different than regular PU.

1) One-itis isnt really a bad thing. yeah there is a limit to how "one" you're focused on, but really. theres a fine balance here, getting too deep into one-itis and you're going to get hurt a lot, and not having some at least some "one-itis" mentality, then it just makes it a lot harder to learn from what works and what doesnt. the notoriety that some guys get for being all over the place with girls isnt something that is easy to live with. Like its not my style to be seen like that as i used to be horrible with women, and i dont want to be seen as a player right away. so unless you're in a group/clique that praises stuff like that, than theres nothing stopping you.

2)Social value, and networking is essential. high-school students tend to be more mean to those who arent seen as "popular" so for the time being its best to build a social network based on your personality. if your into sports meet with a lot of other athletes in the school, you're in the band? find the people who appreaciate the music. with that it means its alot easier to make new friends. Mutual friends are your ticket to meeting people and preventing a huge social downfall.

3) keep it fun. high-school girls tend to not be looking for something totally serious or intensely physical( although i have seen a few of each) keeping PU as fun and just fooling around in school, helps hide the fact that you are trying to be smooth and calculated. yeah yeah i know some people argue how its supposed to be but some guys in high-school are so desperate to get a girl that they just read up on stuff and try to apply it (i know i was like that at first) when you have fun while making these relationships in high-school, they tend to open up even better opportunites leter in life.

This is my thoughts on everything. dissagree or agree, say what you like. this is how i precieve high-school game, and if you think that my preception is totally "wrong" then thats what you think:P tell me what your view is and ill wholeheartdly respect your view as well. This is whats working for me so screw you if you want to insult my way of thinking.

Thats the beauty of PU. its totally different, what works for some, may not work for others. so thanks again witz for bringing this up

I agree with you ponche, many of the things which people who are in HS read wont neccesarily work for them and i have been thinking that material should be developed based around techniques already out there SPAM which is suited more for HS.

The kinda of stuff im thinking off is less set routines and more ways of how people handle social situations in HS to their advantage for PU, thats why im planning on devoting less time to set routines and DHVs etc, and more to change my outlook and my interaction to my advantage

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I am sorry, this is bullshit.
DHV's not working in high school? WTF! lets take the quarter back of the football team, that is a DHV.
Social status is PUA idea, guess what, its key to HS game.
C&F, teasing etc etc all work.
K-closes work.
seriously, what brought you to say it doesn't work?
Madals

Yes but the HS users of this site will, im pretty sure in most cases, not be the quater back of the football team otherwise they will probably have no need for this site. In a place such as HS where DHV is alot harder than just telling a few stories to a girl which you have never met before, other techniques need to be used rather set routine, if you have always been a loser at HS then try and become a PUA, most people will see you as you used to be, not what you have become, completely eliminating the need of DHV as it simply will not work. However i do agree with you that cocky funny and teasing does work.

Witz out...

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Yes, they will for a while UNTIL you start showing your higher value with it. There is no quick fix in HS or in the "adult world" man, you cant just one day leave HS as "the loser" and walk in the next as "alpha PUA". YOU have to change peoples perceptions of you and there is NO technique that will work instantly.
90% of the things here WILL work at HS. I think you'll find the reason you think DHV's wont work is because your thinking of made up DHV's.
If you actually look at things that actually happened and look for the DHV spikes in them they will work. The thing is, you also have to ACT like it as well.



If its not just DHV's your saying dont work give me some other examples of the techniques that don't work.[/quote]

If PUA was a video game, HS would be the easy setting... as you said yourself the girls dont have developed bitch shields yet.

Also in highschool everything is elastic... one day a guy can be a 'loser' the next he can be popular simply because he threw a cool party, kicked someones ass, went on a date with a popular girl, a girl said he was good in bed, hell even because he got a new hair cut.

Once you get older doing any of these things once will have virtually no impact... you have to display a pattern of behaviour.

If you really dont believe then throw a party with all HS girls have some system to let people know who is over 18 and invite an experienced PUA like myself and watch it work at turbo speeds.

Ok so I am a HS senior who has been on the PUA scene for around a month and so far I thought I was doing well. I usually go to college hotspots and try to pick up older women. I hate sarging at school because a majority of the girls seem shallow and they aren't ready for my new found "skill".

However, tonight when my friend and I went out sarging we were completely knocked off our high horse. My friend used the two part kiss opener and I tried to wing him. The girls instantly told us they knew what we were doing and started to critique us. She told us we seemed to rehearsed and it wasn't believable.

So for this whole month have I been practicing the wrong things? I thought everything was going perfectly until tonight. How do I continue/practice. I feel like I am more of an AFC than ever.