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A little bit about me:
I'm 21 years old average-to-good looking guy, living in Brussels, Belgium.

A few days ago I realised that it was time for me to change.

3-4 years ago I used to be a natural, I got into a relationship of 2,5 years (hb8), and started gaming (computer games) intensily. Needless to say that after this relationship I was left at an all time low of my 'game'.

After being single for an entire year I realised this had to change. At the beginning of last week I started doing research on PUA and the game. I partially read Love Systems Routines Manual Vol.2, and mostly learned, and still learn, by delving into forums like this one and puaforums. Next on the list: Magic Bullets, but this is a damn big one! (other suggestions?)

In this thread I will keep you guys up to date of my sarging experiences and thoughts. I hope you'll be able to help me on my journey.


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1/03/2013

Friday, me and my wingman (Jacked) decided to go out in Leuven, which is a really small city (3km diameter) packed with students and universities, I call it a 'student city'. It is a normality in Leuven that most of the students go out on a thursday (so that they can go home to their parents for the weekend after their classes are finished on friday). We decided to go anyways, bad idea, why? There wasn't A SINGLE hb9 or hb10 (which i really needed to practice my nervouseness on, this was one of my goals for the night)

I saw an hb8, who was making her self up in the middle of the pub (you know with a little mirror and stuff, seriously, wtf?). Before I approached her I made small eye contact, I mean, I'm sure she saw me standing before I went up to her, and told her 'isn't it a bit late to do that now?'. She looked at me like 'what are you saying' and dropped eyecontact. I realise that this wasn't really the best thing to do but somehow the fact that she was an hb8 got to me and made me fail my game.

This^ I realise that my game is, or at least seems alot more solid when talking to a 5 or 6, then when speaking to a hb8-9-10. I guess this will be one of my improvement points.

Now here comes the weird part of the night, i somehow managed to speak to 4 girls (ranging from 5.5 to 7.5, i call anything below a 7 'practice') that all had boyfriends in the end, i will only mentiong the most important ones.

One girl gave me eyecontact all the way and was kind of staring at me (i'd give her a 5.5). By the time i went to her a guy was dancing with her. I considered I'd go talk to her and opened with something like 'staring is impolite you know that ? :d) weirdly she said she wasn't... :s. I followed up with a cold read and told her 'you're really into rock music, right?' (she really had the looks) and I was correct, she started smiling immediately. I noticed she had something special in her hair and told her like 'wow, whats this' she told me very enthousiasticly that she went to this special hairstylist event last week where she got it. Either way I saw the dude was looking at me like 'dafuq are u doing man', so i asked him, so your also into rock right? (kinda befriended him to prevent a cockblock, which totally worked). After a while of chatting she told me 'we are in a relationship' so I say 'no prob I'm just being friendly' (did i react correct?). Either way, I really think that if i wanted to i could have gotten her number and stolen her from her boyfriend, but it was just not worth it, so I decided to leave them and finish with a 'well, have a good night then'.

We went to another bar, where I saw this hb7.5 who was in a group of 4 girls, and they were being approached by another group of guys. I noticed that this hb7.5 really didn't like being approached by this certain guy, he was being really loud to her and touching her on the back, kinda trying to kiss her, I guess drunk. We went a little closer and were both thinking of approaching one of the girls, when suddenly one of the guys of the approaching group, talks to my wing and says 'hey man, we are winging here, go somewhere else', since they were 6 guys, we had no choice but to leave.

A few hours later we enter a bar, and I see the same girls standing there (only 2 this time), I open up to one of them (kinda too loud to talk to both) saying 'were those guys a bit too much for you? :)', apparantly I opened to the wrong one as she wasnt approached in that bar by anyone and she tells me 'I think u mean my girlfriend here'. So I talk to the one who I saw being 'harrassed', and again open with 'those guys were a bit too much for you, right?, I mean WHEN YOU'RE SCREAMING LIKE THIS, and hanging over as close to you as this' while hanging a bit closer to her. She was like 'haha, yeah was that something'. I say 'I mean come on that's not how you treat a girl..' This is when she grabbed me and reenacted the behaviour the guy did on her, but this time on me, she put her hands on my back and came right next to my face (next to, not in front, just to speak in my ear, it was kinda loud over there) and said something like 'yea, he was acting like this, really close and was kinda trying to kiss me.

These are parts in my game where I lack, I just don't know how to respond correctly to this??!

I laughed and listened to her, while she tells me about how awful that guy was, I didn't really know what to talk about, so tried a cold read and said 'so you guys study together?' I realise the other girl somehow doesn't like me and is always drawing away attention from us (should have probably tried to enage her in the conversation, but that's hard when it's a loud place, tips?). It's hard to get her on my side, when she kinda didn't like me from the beginning, no idea why :s
Anyways she tells me yeah im studying here bla bla.. The conversation somehow gets off and the girls look around, I also look, and, see a woman dancing really ridiculous, and say 'come on, this how you dance here' and also start dancing ridiculous.
The girls dont really react, they just kinda dance a bit more energetic. I notice I have nothing left to say, I tell the girl that i have to leave cause i'm going to another bar where other friends are. I tell her it'd be nice to see u again, can I get your number?'. This is when she tells me, 'oh,.. i have a boyfriend'. This one i'm not sure if she actually has a boyfriend.. probably my game lacked.

Another goal I had for this first 'game night', was to successfully pull off a neg. I see a 6.5 (again prac), with a special woolen white sweater, and while walking past I tell her 'Woah that's a really nice sweater' before I finish my sentence I see her reacting and smiling 'hhih, thanks :d' and I finish my sentence 'a girlfriend of mine also has it'. This is where I realise I really don't know how to pull off a neg, seriously, what would u be like when someone walks to u saying u have a nice sweater but a friend of you also has it, that last part comes across as irrelevant and just being a bit annoying, not?

Goals for next time:
  • *In particular I have problems on how to react to girls, especially when they make a move on me, tips or a good article, anyone?
    *Learn to neg
    *Filling conversations, to not yet even think about escalating.
    *How to introduce a wing, after engaging alone.
    *How to come off as natural, while actually 'playing' a girl.
Any tips to improve my game, things that were good or didn't work?
Tips for resources, specific to my shortcomings?
Anything, just shoot! :)


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09/03/2013 Saturday night; I went out to this local party in a big-ass tent.
Achievements: 4 number closes

All of my approaches tonight were based on cold reads. I saw several girls with something that looked like a business suit top (Pic here) so I’d always open them with something like ‘you look like a business woman to me’ -> I Need to work on making cold openers more attractive. The ones I gave were too neutral I think, eventho I mostly got good responses to them, these said the mood to neutral If I don’t give a hint of interest with them. Right? Tips?

I focused on asking about their interests to try to 'unlock' their speaking potential (-> trying to go for the 20% / 80%)
I tried this by asking them something like ‘so do you like travelling?’ ->yes ‘if you could wake up anywhere tomorrow, where would it be ?’
An example:
She: ‘London’
Me: ‘Yeah you’d fit in there with that fashion like business clothing, you could be one of those London fashion designers.’
Then they’d laugh.. and that’s where I would have to be coming up with other things to speak about..
I’m really interested in getting them to talk, and open to me, this seems really hard for me at the moment (eventhough I was already talking about their interests)!

There was this one girl on which I escalated too fast:
When I noticed her ‘forking’ her hands into mine, I saw this as a big IOI’, so I push and pull, take my hands off, and then a few minutes later take her hands again, after a while I go stand in front of her, look her in the eyes and say ‘I really wonder what thai (referring to the food, but in this case a woman) tastes like’ but I saw that she was somehow looking away with her eyes, breaking eyecontact and thus I didn’t went in for the kiss.

Things that worked:
Ex’s same name
Me: "So what's your name ?"
Her: “Alexandra”
Me: "That's the same name as my ex' , awkwarrdd :d"
Her: haha :d
Her: I always thought my name was kinda unique, I know nobody that has this name!
But how do I go from here??

Complicated girl
I saw a girl with a rolling stones t-shirt, and we were at this dance/tech/hardstyle party, so my opener was 'so you like the rolling stones eh'
she: yeah! *points to her t-shirt
Me: so what are you doing here? (because the music style was so different) :d
She: yeah I listen to lots of music
Me: oh I get it, you're complicated
She: yeah :dd
->>> Any tips on where to go from here?, without ‘jumping to really different topics, because that makes it obvious for both parties that you’re out of things to say’

Sticking points:
Still running out of things to say (less worse than my first FR tho)
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Unlocking her to let her speak more!!
I also noticed that sometimes it’s hard to properly approach, like, you actually need to have your timing right so that she sees you walking towards you
Escalating too fast, perhaps make the attraction and comfort phases longer.
Attractive openers


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Sounds like a real nice story brother. I enjoyed reading it. Enjoy your life so far!


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Hi guys,

Firebirdz here to give you a short update of things!
I've been going out a lot lately (at least 2 times a week), mostly to clubs.
I must say I haven't been reading too much on the PUA techniques any more but once in a while I come here for advice. Last week I finally managed to kiss-close a girl at a club! (HB7.5).

Prepare guys, because BEASTBIRDZ will be back on the scene!

What i learned so far:
  • Don't feel any stress to maintain a conversation, let the girl feel the stress and when she does talk react enthousiastic, it's better to be INTERESTED than INTERESTING!
    The first minute of your night on the field determines the rest of the night! 3 second rule guys!
    Get drunk enough to comfortably be yourself, and even a bit crazy, but not TOO drunk!
    I can not stress this enough, GET SOME EXPERIENCE(S)!
    I now try to ask as fast as possible wether she is single or not, just because I'm so fed up with trying and then hearing she isn't single, so what I do is either straight on ask 'So who's single in here?' (group) or 'So how many boyfriends do you have?'
For me personally: I never really had a firm grasp on the topic Flirting or Teasing, and I'm SO happy this part is finally progressing, I just started to flirt with every girl, just trying to make a joke out of everything, at first my jokes where really bad, but after a while you start making a good joke out of everything!


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04/01/2014, Saturdaynight, FIRST solo sarge ever. Record breaking FR in Length.lol

So since one buddy got sick and the other was too tired, I had no other option then to go out for my first SOLO sarge ever!

Good things about this sarge:
  • Got slightly better at conversational skills.
    Got some pictures with girls I was talking to, (will use this to social proof my FB if they are any good)
    LOTS of approaches, once again proved i have 0 approach anxiety.
Bad things, to improve on:
  • Learn how to spice up conversations, and talk about more interesting topics.
    Being seen by other girls sarging .. (sometimes it is good because of social proof, but if she see's you going up to EVERY other girl then she will know...)
    I still sometimes feel to playerish and need to come across more natural.
    Hearing problems; sometimes i need to ask a girl to repeat several things twice or even more.. that's really annoying, how to work with this?!
    Memory problems; sometimes when i approach alot of girls at bars i tend to mix names and jobs all together.. this comes across REALLY bad. Need tips on this
    Should spice up the basics; for example when she asks my age joke that i'm 15 (althought some girls seem annoyed by the fact that you just wont straight away say it) This being said, should I ALWAYS let her guess my name?. Basics questions i get all the time: My job, My age, Where i life; How to spice this up?
    Noticed that my flirting online is way better then in real life, I don't really have a clue of how to act when i flirt
Structurized night:
23.53: I walk into the club like whattup I got a big cock.

23.53: When I enter there's two girls at the entrance offering me candy: I say, ‘wow, girls and candy… this HAS to be paradise’ (the event was called PARADISE saturdays), they laugh and offer me some more candy.

23.54: Gonna buy some drink coupons, just telling the two dudes in front of me ‘the club looks kinda empty today’, have a bit of small talk and tell them I'm going in.

23.56: I walk straight to the bar while (trying to) walk confident that I don't care I'm alone.

23.59: Walk around just a little bit and see which girl I could possibly strike up, I see two girls sitting at some kind of bar, just chilling & talking, so I just go up to them with a smile saying ‘what's up?’ (Wasn't really planning on hitting them, just using them as warm-up). So I talk with them about 30 mins about various topics (what they do in their life, where they are from, how old they are, where they would like to travel,…). These are also the first girls to mention why I'm alone at the bar; so I reply to them just like I did with all other girls; 'Well one mate got sick, the other was too tired, what am I supposed to do, stay home?!' (Some girls found that a bit weird, others were like OK well that's cool). I made a bet with one of the girls where she said the place will be packed by 1 PM so we joked around about that a few times during the conversation. They need to go put their jackets & scarfs away so I say all right I'm getting myself another beer then.

00:30: Just walking around and I say hi to two other chicks, have a dull conversation about them, most of the conversations tonight go like this: 'Why is it so empty here' 'What do you do in your life ?' 'How old are you', and occasionally I can break out of this pattern if the girl is interested enough to give me something to work with.

00:42: I go back to the two girls I was talking to before, and this time talk about why one of those two isn't chasing her passion and why she should. Dancefloor is getting a bit fuller and she agrees that she lost the bet, but that it was close, they need to go to the toilet so I say well see you later perhaps and get another drink.

1:06: I go back to the dancefloor and dance a bit with these two girls (anything but sexual, and it’s hard to make eyecontact while dancing, but sometimes it works and an occasional smile with that eyecontact pops in). As I was dancing quite heavily (trying to not give a fuck and to get some attraction) I bump into a girl that was trying to pass me and spoil her drink a bit, I say 'I’m sorry.. my bad' and she says 'it’s OK' and walks by. I dance a bit more and the two girls I’m dancing with aren’t really giving me much at the moment. So I walk up to the one on which I spilled her drink (she’s in a group of 3 girls) and say 'I’m so sorry about spilling that drink’ she says ‘yea you were dancing quite heavily ;)’ On which I respond, 'yea well it’s weekend, I need to go wild sometime don’t I?’ I ask her what she does in life, she asks me and I pull out my astronaut routine, she likes it. I talk a bit with her friends and while just being nice to them, one of them almost right off the bat tell’s me ‘yea but I ain’t single, she is though (the one I opened to) , so I reply, ‘I don’t care if you’re single or not, I’m just here to have fun ! :p’ So I dance a bit and talk a bit with let’s call her green girl (the one I made spill) and I can tell she is fairly interested, she is investing quite a lot in our conversation (when there are silent spots and we are both just dancing a bit) and also comes up with some great questions towards me. After a while she tells me, ‘I gotta admit something though’, ‘I’m actually divorcing right now.. ‘ ‘So I say aww that’s gotta hurt, that must suck, I feel you’. Talk a bit about where she lives and she lives about 4 minutes (by bike) from this club. I can tell that there is fuck potential but I need to start dancing with her, her friends gave me and her some extra space and are thus saying in a non-verbal way that It’s ok for us to be talking/dancing whatever together. I fail to start dancing with her as I felt a bit awkward and i dont don’t know why..

[Need to work on this, BEST way to start dancing with a girl with KINO?, usually I start by slightly touching her back, sometimes this freaks a girl out, sometimes it works, maybe i should start by taking her hand, but that's such a attentionpuller for the rest of the room] but nothing is lost and we just dance and fool around a bit, there’s this song that comes up and It says something like ‘move bitch get out the way’ so I jokingly push her around :p And she laughs. We dance a bit, sometimes making eyecontact. After a while she all the sudden walks away with her friends without saying anything.

1:40: So I just walk up to the next set (and think something must have happened). So next I see this really nice HB8.5, I see she’s drinking a coke, and since I met a lot of hairdressers this night I’m guessing she is one also. So I just cold open her from the back [DO NOT OPEN FROM BEHIND FIREBIRDZ DAMNIT] with saying ‘Im’ guessing you’re the driver and that you are a hairdresser’ she says ‘Nope and Nope’ :p ‘Did you just call me a hairdresser??!’ she says in a kinda pissed way and I say ‘Yeah well it’s because your hair is so great :p’ then her girlfriend comes up to me and says ‘It’s her birthday today!’ so I say ‘that’s three kisses’ and proceed to give them. Now I have no idea why but after this I try to strike up the conversation again 'so what do you really do ?', etc.. but all the sudden her friends come in to meatshield me I’m confused now.. So I don’t give a fuck and walk past the meatshield and tell the girl, ‘well you have a nice night!’ and walk by.

1:50: I see the first two girls I opened at the begin of the night on the dancefloor and start dancing a bit with them just having fun. While looking around I see green girl again, I see her watching me and try to lock eyecontact, once I do I wave to her. Once again I leave these 2 girls to open up to another one (basically I am now using them to social proof me) they must be on to something by now I guess lol. IS THIS OK?

2:05: So I go up to green girl and tell her ‘Well is that what you also do with your customers at the bank? You leave them waiting behind?’ (she mentioned she worked at a bank) and she says ‘No my friends got surrounded by really creepy guys and we had to get away’ I say ‘Oh ok I was one of them?’ She says ‘no no’. We talk a bit more and I can tell she kinda lost interest, perhaps because she saw me sarging around the club, which is a really small club with let’s say 80-150 people. Now she runs away, to the bar, neither me or her girlfriend know what the fuck is wrong but she just left me again, her girlfriend tells me ‘Yeah I gotta follow her, see ya’. This is where the story with green girl ends, I am pretty sure I was able to fuck her that night if I hadn’t been sarging around that much, but I chose for getting some more pua experience instead of this 70% chance on a SNL (perhaps a bad decision looking at it now).

2:25: So I walk up to the next set and these are two girls facing each other dancing slightly, so I walk in straight between them and do some kind of stiff dance and they both laugh a bit I say ‘Sorry did that bother you?' And she says sth like ‘No but is that all you got?’ So I say ‘No look at this’ and I dance intentionally stupid like I don’t give a fuck (to show her my confidence with who I am) (I’m not sure if this is always a good idea actually because sometimes I feel like I’m embarrassing the girls!! So we do the basic talk and I ask her what job she does and she says 'Is that some kind of openingline? because the other guy also asked me' i say 'no it's called socializing :p' after that she tells me she’s a police. After a while I see some really old creepy guy around dancing all alone and I tell her ‘look at that, aren’t you supposed to keep an eye on pedophiles?’ quite a good one as she cracked a laugh. The problem again with this set was that she saw me sarging around.. She asks me if I’m alone here and I say ‘yea one friend sick the other too tired, what should I do stay home?’, she says ‘I don’t believe you’, I say ‘why??’ ‘You were just standing there with those other girls’ I say ‘Yeah I know them but I came here alone’ (Obviously I didn’t know them before i entered the club) and she goes like ‘oohh’ and I noticed how she is clearly thinking: 'this guy is just talking to EVERY girl in this club..' I go to the bar get a drink and come back. I see her tattoo, it’s a number ‘3’ and ask her what it’s about ‘three nipples? :p’ she says ‘None of your business’ .. I say ‘oohhhh..’ and then dance a bit I’m confused and ask her ‘Look I’m sorry if I said or did something wrong I didn’t mean to.. ‘ ‘No no it’s ok I just don’t like to tell it to strangers’.. This is where my night kind of ends, I say goodbye to her and ‘tell her well see you next time perhaps ‘ and force a kiss.

There where also some dutch girls (Netherlands) but I had trouble speaking with them, they couldn’t quite understand me and neither could i understand them. -> What to do if you really can't understand them, even after asking them to repeat it a 2nd time? just shake your head like yeeaa ? (she will think what a douche is he deaf or something?!)

One thing that boggles my mind is the flow you have after opening..
Right now it goes like this:
I open, talk a bit, (and remember it's a club, the one where i go to the music is JUST not loud enough where you are able to speak), so when the conversation goes a bit blank i just dance a bit, and wait for her to also invest a bit, or ask a question, then try my hardest to use what she gives me. After that i will try to build some comfort and then perhaps dance with her... I need some kind of 'flow' of how it normally goes.


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04/01/2014, Saturdaynight, FIRST solo sarge ever. Record breaking FR in Length.lol

So since one buddy got sick and the other was too tired, I had no other option then to go out for my first SOLO sarge ever!

Good things about this sarge:
Got slightly better at conversational skills.
Got some pictures with girls I was talking to, (will use this to social proof my FB if they are any good)
LOTS of approaches, once again proved i have 0 approach anxiety.
Lots of approaches, meh... Learn about spotting dtf, and approach invites, lots of approaches can burn you out in clubs, specially on a small venue.
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Bad things, to improve on:
Learn how to spice up conversations, and talk about more interesting topics.
Being seen by other girls sarging .. (sometimes it is good because of social proof, but if she see's you going up to EVERY other girl then she will know...)
I still sometimes feel to playerish and need to come across more natural.
Hearing problems; sometimes i need to ask a girl to repeat several things twice or even more.. that's really annoying, how to work with this?!
Memory problems; sometimes when i approach alot of girls at bars i tend to mix names and jobs all together.. this comes across REALLY bad. Need tips on this
Should spice up the basics; for example when she asks my age joke that i'm 15 (althought some girls seem annoyed by the fact that you just wont straight away say it) This being said, should I ALWAYS let her guess my name?. Basics questions i get all the time: My job, My age, Where i life; How to spice this up?
Noticed that my flirting online is way better then in real life, I don't really have a clue of how to act when i flirt
nah you need to learn how to spot approach invites, how to capitalize and identify dtf, focus less on talking and more on escalating, specially in dance floor/club game, what you say does not matter much, what is more important is screening for the girls that are into you, and escalate on those, or if logistics not there exchange info. and move to other more receptive girls. Being social is meh, hooking up is the goal not being social.
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Structurized night:
23.53: I walk into the club like whattup I got a big cock.
Good
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23.53: When I enter there's two girls at the entrance offering me candy: I say, ‘wow, girls and candy… this HAS to be paradise’ (the event was called PARADISE saturdays), they laugh and offer me some more candy.
good
Quote:
23.54: Gonna buy some drink coupons, just telling the two dudes in front of me ‘the club looks kinda empty today’, have a bit of small talk and tell them I'm going in.

23.56: I walk straight to the bar while (trying to) walk confident that I don't care I'm alone.

23.59: Walk around just a little bit and see which girl I could possibly strike up, I see two girls sitting at some kind of bar, just chilling & talking, so I just go up to them with a smile saying ‘what's up?’ (Wasn't really planning on hitting them, just using them as warm-up). So I talk with them about 30 mins about various topics (what they do in their life, where they are from, how old they are, where they would like to travel,…). These are also the first girls to mention why I'm alone at the bar; so I reply to them just like I did with all other girls; 'Well one mate got sick, the other was too tired, what am I supposed to do, stay home?!' (Some girls found that a bit weird, others were like OK well that's cool). I made a bet with one of the girls where she said the place will be packed by 1 PM so we joked around about that a few times during the conversation. They need to go put their jackets & scarfs away so I say all right I'm getting myself another beer then.
i would have said: "i am here with my best friend" if they say where is he " I would have say down here" and pull up my pants a bit under the pocket with both hands.... They get the point of the stupid sexual joke. They will laugh and usually punch you or roll their eyes, in laughter. Then after i say nah, i rather go out alone is more fun, dudes usually do not know how to behave around women, get into a fights, and if you meet a girl and you hit it off you have babysit blah blah blah... Being alone is not big deal, tell them you know most people out anyways blah blah... I don't usually have to explain that much, since masculine sexual dudes are comfortable with themselves and do not place to much care in what women say anyways.
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00:30: Just walking around and I say hi to two other chicks, have a dull conversation about them, most of the conversations tonight go like this: 'Why is it so empty here' 'What do you do in your life ?' 'How old are you', and occasionally I can break out of this pattern if the girl is interested enough to give me something to work with.
meh!
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00:42: I go back to the two girls I was talking to before, and this time talk about why one of those two isn't chasing her passion and why she should. Dancefloor is getting a bit fuller and she agrees that she lost the bet, but that it was close, they need to go to the toilet so I say well see you later perhaps and get another drink.
useless meh!
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1:06: I go back to the dancefloor and dance a bit with these two girls (anything but sexual, and it’s hard to make eyecontact while dancing, but sometimes it works and an occasional smile with that eyecontact pops in). As I was dancing quite heavily (trying to not give a fuck and to get some attraction) I bump into a girl that was trying to pass me and spoil her drink a bit, I say 'I’m sorry.. my bad' and she says 'it’s OK' and walks by. I dance a bit more and the two girls I’m dancing with aren’t really giving me much at the moment. So I walk up to the one on which I spilled her drink (she’s in a group of 3 girls) and say 'I’m so sorry about spilling that drink’ she says ‘yea you were dancing quite heavily ;)’ On which I respond, 'yea well it’s weekend, I need to go wild sometime don’t I?’ I ask her what she does in life, she asks me and I pull out my astronaut routine, she likes it. I talk a bit with her friends and while just being nice to them, one of them almost right off the bat tell’s me ‘yea but I ain’t single, she is though (the one I opened to) , so I reply, ‘I don’t care if you’re single or not, I’m just here to have fun ! :p’ So I dance a bit and talk a bit with let’s call her green girl (the one I made spill) and I can tell she is fairly interested, she is investing quite a lot in our conversation (when there are silent spots and we are both just dancing a bit) and also comes up with some great questions towards me. After a while she tells me, ‘I gotta admit something though’, ‘I’m actually divorcing right now.. ‘ ‘So I say aww that’s gotta hurt, that must suck, I feel you’. Talk a bit about where she lives and she lives about 4 minutes (by bike) from this club. I can tell that there is fuck potential but I need to start dancing with her, her friends gave me and her some extra space and are thus saying in a non-verbal way that It’s ok for us to be talking/dancing whatever together. I fail to start dancing with her as I felt a bit awkward and i dont don’t know why..
Dude follow my youtube channel (specially the dancing videos) read the annotations, this is not good, you had a green/dtf and you fucked it up, you are too much also caught up in routine type stuff which is not efficient, and too much in your head as well with the so call "game".
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[Need to work on this, BEST way to start dancing with a girl with KINO?, usually I start by slightly touching her back, sometimes this freaks a girl out, sometimes it works, maybe i should start by taking her hand, but that's such a attentionpuller for the rest of the room] but nothing is lost and we just dance and fool around a bit, there’s this song that comes up and It says something like ‘move bitch get out the way’ so I jokingly push her around :p And she laughs. We dance a bit, sometimes making eyecontact. After a while she all the sudden walks away with her friends without saying anything.
I show you how to do that in my compliance, microescalation video in my youtube channel, so you can get an idea, also the "how to kiss and make out" video, make sure to read the annotations.
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1:40: So I just walk up to the next set (and think something must have happened). So next I see this really nice HB8.5, I see she’s drinking a coke, and since I met a lot of hairdressers this night I’m guessing she is one also. So I just cold open her from the back [DO NOT OPEN FROM BEHIND FIREBIRDZ DAMNIT] with saying ‘Im’ guessing you’re the driver and that you are a hairdresser’ she says ‘Nope and Nope’ :p ‘Did you just call me a hairdresser??!’ she says in a kinda pissed way and I say ‘Yeah well it’s because your hair is so great :p’ then her girlfriend comes up to me and says ‘It’s her birthday today!’ so I say ‘that’s three kisses’ and proceed to give them. Now I have no idea why but after this I try to strike up the conversation again 'so what do you really do ?', etc.. but all the sudden her friends come in to meatshield me I’m confused now.. So I don’t give a fuck and walk past the meatshield and tell the girl, ‘well you have a nice night!’ and walk by.
Well she probably was not into you, and send her friends the look or the sign, to be rescued, or they felt her friend was not into. you... Enough with this silly openers, situtional openers or hi, will do.. Openers do not matter... You notice her drinking a coke, many things you could have talk about her drinking the coke, be creative. It was her birthday, another golden opt. wasted, i would have said really, let me give you birthday dance, and i would have dance seductevely stripper type.
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1:50: I see the first two girls I opened at the begin of the night on the dancefloor and start dancing a bit with them just having fun. While looking around I see green girl again, I see her watching me and try to lock eyecontact, once I do I wave to her. Once again I leave these 2 girls to open up to another one (basically I am now using them to social proof me) they must be on to something by now I guess lol. IS THIS OK?
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2:05: So I go up to green girl and tell her ‘Well is that what you also do with your customers at the bank? You leave them waiting behind?’ (she mentioned she worked at a bank) and she says ‘No my friends got surrounded by really creepy guys and we had to get away’ I say ‘Oh ok I was one of them?’ She says ‘no no’. We talk a bit more and I can tell she kinda lost interest, perhaps because she saw me sarging around the club, which is a really small club with let’s say 80-150 people. Now she runs away, to the bar, neither me or her girlfriend know what the fuck is wrong but she just left me again, her girlfriend tells me ‘Yeah I gotta follow her, see ya’. This is where the story with green girl ends, I am pretty sure I was able to fuck her that night if I hadn’t been sarging around that much, but I chose for getting some more pua experience instead of this 70% chance on a SNL (perhaps a bad decision looking at it now).
You lost your window of opportunity, she can tell you are not a confident seducers, but just an average guy, you also may have gotten a bit burn at the club, specially if a small venue.
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2:25: So I walk up to the next set and these are two girls facing each other dancing slightly, so I walk in straight between them and do some kind of stiff dance and they both laugh a bit I say ‘Sorry did that bother you?' And she says sth like ‘No but is that all you got?’ So I say ‘No look at this’ and I dance intentionally stupid like I don’t give a fuck (to show her my confidence with who I am) (I’m not sure if this is always a good idea actually because sometimes I feel like I’m embarrassing the girls!! So we do the basic talk and I ask her what job she does and she says 'Is that some kind of openingline? because the other guy also asked me' i say 'no it's called socializing :p' after that she tells me she’s a police. After a while I see some really old creepy guy around dancing all alone and I tell her ‘look at that, aren’t you supposed to keep an eye on pedophiles?’ quite a good one as she cracked a laugh. The problem again with this set was that she saw me sarging around.. She asks me if I’m alone here and I say ‘yea one friend sick the other too tired, what should I do stay home?’, she says ‘I don’t believe you’, I say ‘why??’ ‘You were just standing there with those other girls’ I say ‘Yeah I know them but I came here alone’ (Obviously I didn’t know them before i entered the club) and she goes like ‘oohh’ and I noticed how she is clearly thinking: 'this guy is just talking to EVERY girl in this club..' I go to the bar get a drink and come back. I see her tattoo, it’s a number ‘3’ and ask her what it’s about ‘three nipples? :p’ she says ‘None of your business’ .. I say ‘oohhhh..’ and then dance a bit I’m confused and ask her ‘Look I’m sorry if I said or did something wrong I didn’t mean to.. ‘ ‘No no it’s ok I just don’t like to tell it to strangers’.. This is where my night kind of ends, I say goodbye to her and ‘tell her well see you next time perhaps ‘ and force a kiss.
god! too needy, to accomodating, you are in your head, they can tell you are not a player, seducer, but a regular chump... You apologize to much and put them on a pedestal... Again lack of skills, you do have potential but you are your own worst enemy too many mistakes, too much beta behavior.
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There where also some dutch girls (Netherlands) but I had trouble speaking with them, they couldn’t quite understand me and neither could i understand them. -> What to do if you really can't understand them, even after asking them to repeat it a 2nd time? just shake your head like yeeaa ? (she will think what a douche is he deaf or something?!)
dude, you put to much emphasis on verbals, what you say does not matter, what matters is the subcommunication, escalation, being efficient. Study my stuff carefully, and watch your results sky rocket, read a blog a day and a youtube video again...

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10/01, Fridaynight, first time I went sarging with RSD Inner Circle Belgium (props to them!)
Not sure on how to begin this FR, as it was a really weird night for me.

Started the night in Bruges, where we (Gabriël and Stefaan) met up with the rest of RSD.IC.BE. I see a set sitting in chairs and approach one of the girls (she had a peacock feather in her ear).
"Hey, what animal did you have to slaughter for that ?!"
"None, we are vegetarians !"
"Oh so you just ran around after the animal to pick up a feather e :p"
"Hha yes exactly"
"ugh it's full of vegetarians here.."
I talk a bit further and the girls are quite interested but I get interrupted by some of the RSD guys, I actually was kinda happy because I just approached these chicks to get some momentum and wasn't interested in a k-close or anything else.

As we go from bar to bar I realise how the guys I'm hanging with are the real deal and that I can learn alot from them. Eventhought there is NO feeling of competition, it still kind of broke my ego, knowing that I'm slightly more than OK with women, but still being nothing compared to hem.

So we enter the main club of the night, everybody starts approaching like crazy, and I'm still having trouble getting in the zone. So I'm not really feeling it although I'm doing my best to amp up my state by dancing a bit to the music and just trying to have fun with some of the guys. I feel that my state-problem might also be due to the fact that I don't really know the RSD guys well enough yet. So I too start approaching and approach some girls and sometimes get rejected quite hard. Eventhough I'm trying not to let it get to me it still kinda does.

Another point, I start dancing with a girl we met a bit earlier (spanish), and put her hand up in the air and spin her around, I take her by the waist and she likes it but then she starts acting like I was touching her bum.. so I hold her a bit higher but this kinda killed the mood.

We drive to Gent and start approaching a bit over there. I'm finding it easier to get in the zone although still not perfect. While walking in the club I see a chick looking at me so I smile to her and later decide to approach. I go up to her and say "Would it matter if a guy only had one ball?" she's not reacting at all to what I'm saying (I'm thinking she might actually be deaf lol). I go stand in front of her and look her right in the eyes and start triangle-gazing, all the sudden she looks me in the eyes and goes in for the kiss. WOW!. I flinch and say 'Wow are you always this fast" and start teasing with the fact that I know she wants me. (I didn't feel like kissing her, again, practice).

One thing i really noticed about the experienced sargers was the way they handle kino, quite agressively sometimes yanking girls towards them, immediately wrapping their arms around them etc..

Later when driving back home I talked with one of the RSD guys about the fact that it gets really hard to NOT be self conscious when you've lately been reading a lot about PUA, and that that is also the reason why he actually prefers to just read as little as possible, because being conscious will fuck up your state. This is where I think that alcohol helps in ALL kind of ways to pick up chicks (lately is started to pick-up ONLY sober, it's tough), it gives me that I don't give a fuck mentality where you can just be crazy around chicks and have fun. As of now it's really hard for me to reach that state while being sober. I was constantly thinking what to say now, what to do now etc..

Yesterday was a bad night for me, but that makes it a GREAT night for a PUA because it enables me to learn alot!


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There where also some dutch girls (Netherlands) but I had trouble speaking with them, they couldn’t quite understand me and neither could i understand them. -> What to do if you really can't understand them, even after asking them to repeat it a 2nd time? just shake your head like yeeaa ? (she will think what a douche is he deaf or something?!)
dude, you put to much emphasis on verbals, what you say does not matter, what matters is the subcommunication, escalation, being efficient. Study my stuff carefully, and watch your results sky rocket, read a blog a day and a youtube video again...
As skills 360 says (paraphrased), action speaks louder than words...talks is cheap! But its more on how you say it with the tone and body language. Attraction is 90% connecting physically, the words are just rambling to keep from being bored. People are turned on by feeling, touching, tasting, smelling, rubbing. When you tap into the senses you can turn shit into sugar or water into wine. Animals connect through non verbal chemistry just by using their instincts. You can feel a persons vibe and desires, because you get turned on and they pick it up to (its called confidence, which you're feeding from each other) and nothing stands in your way when you want it bad enough. Some guys just chase women without any vibe and get confidence shot down, but even the toughest lioness you desire to pursue will build your confidence more when she likes the chase. You want to pursue women who build up your morale not tear it down. Stay clear of people who suck up all your energy (they're vampires who bleed out all of your confidence and they go home with their confidence high, while yours has been sucked dry to weak to have any left to pursue other prospects.) Have your cross or shit meter!


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11/01 SaturdayNight, Awesome solosarge in Antwerp!
Since I had some problems with getting in the zone the night before, I made sure that this night that would NOT happen, while driving to Antwerp I put on my favorite music with some nice beats. I slowly worked up my social momentum untill I got in the zone (talking to almost everyone I encountered), and by the end of the night I was having the must fun I EVER had solosarging!

Other than that I also had KILLER confidence (i've been using affirmations!) this night, and chicks could smell that. I'd let them know by the way I said things that you don't fuck with me, but I'll fuck with you ;) I was free in my mind to say whatever crazy thing I came up with!

Openingset (HB6,HB6): started talking to these two girls, both from Poland, told them I have an ex girlfriend over there (true) and cheers in Polish ("Nazdrovja") did the best friend test, talked some shit about me going to the moon (they really believed me .wat) and got LOADS of IOI's from the blond one. Made some jokes for example;
"I'll be thinking of you when I'm up there!"
"I'll watch you with my binoculars" and then ".. when u are in the shower ;)"
Since I got that much IOI's from blondie I decided to head on to my next set, and told them I'd meet them later on the dancefloor.
So I do meet them a bit later on the dancefloor and start dancing with them. I always thought my dancegame was good, but lately I realised that there's ALOT to improve so I'll be taking dance classes ASAP. Mostly I don't know a way to transition into a dance, what was really weird, this blond girl who gave me all kind of IOI's, when I put my two hands out there she didn't grab them to start dancing. Another thing I noticed is that (I dont know how or why) but I make girls feel awkward when dancing with me, they start looking at their friends with big eyes (I mostly tell them "What, you never danced with a guy before?!"), and the friends will also be impressed by what's happening.

Most of the night I used the "I must know ur name" opener and by saying it like I really mean it, chicks would feel my dominance and almost all of them would say it immediately. Then I'd follow up with "I'm Wout nice to meet you" or if they ask why I'd say "because I like you". Eventhough today was a MAJOR improvement on 'not caring about what to say', I still need to work on my arsenal of things to say or do when I'm not able to freestyle yet.

Another approach, I see this girl looking at me while I walk by and I look back in her eyes, but I forget to put my game face on, or even smile at her. Still a few minutes later I approach her saying "Staring is rude you know that?! It's not allowed in here!" (FIREBIRDZ DO NOT USE THIS LINE AGAIN) ALL girls always reply to this "I wasn't staring !" and I'd reply "Yes you were don't lie" she says "No you were"... I ask her name etc. Then I use the "Is it ok if a guy has only one ball?!" a bit later I notice she is not really saying anything so I say "Are you always this nervous around guys? I have that effect on girls I'm sorry" (a bit too arrogant perhaps) and she says "Yea because the things you say..".

So this "Is it ok if a guy has only one ball?!" line is great because it knocks the girls off their feet. They don't see the logic in why u'd tell/ask them that. And some girls would even assume I'm drunk, some would after a while ask me why I said that and I don't really have an answer to that.. mostly I answered with "I'm just having fun".

I found a really good solution to when girls ask me if I'm alone.
I say "Nah I'm here with my best friend"
-> "Oh great where is he?"
I point at my dick and smile.
Then I might add "And sometimes we play together".

Tonight I also used this playful (it's not really a neg but it kinda is, I'm kinda shittesting THEM lol): "I didn't know all-stars where back IN (as-in current fashion) again?"

I really need to finetune how to look a girl in the eyes, sometimes I have no idea what face to make when I'm looking her in the eyes, also, when to look in her eyes and for how long.

I see this blondie and go up to her tell her "I need to know your name".. talk a bit, she gives me some IOI's but I notice she's kinda shy, I lead the conversation w/e, we have some fun and I'll tell her I'll be back. So an hour later I see her again and she's all smiling to me and stuff, talk a bit further and also talk to her girlfriend and also use the "Is it oke if a guy has only ball line" to her friend, and she is really dazzled, she tells me "I don't believe you" I say "Allright let's go I'll show you" she says "Nah show it here" .. wat. Either way the blondie keeps on bringing up questions to me, after a while SHE starts gaming ME lol, she is know asking if I have facebook I just reply "Yes I do, although I prefer smoke signals". After a while she says "That was stupid of me I'm sorry, can I have your name?" so I give her my facebook. What to do with these apologetic chicks? just tell them "You don't have to say sorry?".

Go to the next set (2x HB8) and things are kinda going well, they ask me to take a picture of them and after that I tell them aaight lets take a selfie now, and I take a pic of us three. We have some fun and they ask if I'm alone here and I tell them "No with my bestfriend.." routine and they like it! After a while one of the two wants to go to the bar for a drink so they start discussing and I say "allright see you next week perhaps, hey give me your facebook so I can have that picture " and she gave it.

So I approached almost all hotties in the bar, and my fear for approaching also the real hot girls is fading away slowly. I decide to head out of this club and look for other bars around, always shaking hands with the bouncers etc (people are getting to know me here now).

I go to this other bar and meet 3 chicks we have a really fun time, I'm roleplaying with one of them that she is my ex and she works along really well. After a while they tell me that 2 of them are having a boyfriend, this means the fat one is left over LOL. So I decide to bail on them, but on a positive note. Later I meet them outside and have some fun with them, one chick says something kinda rude to me and I just say "Fuck it I'm out :)" and I start walking away.

Head to some other bars, I get into this kinda empty bar and when I decide to walk out I meet a bunch of Netherlands' girls, I tell the leader like "You shouldn't go here its kinda empty", we start a conversation and talk a bit, she is kinda interested but not that much. The girls sit down at the bar and I approach some of her friends. I get into this roleplaying game with one of the girls after I checked her for funny commonalities "Swordfighting, Long walks, Empty vases, Dicks" and say hey we could be best friends ;). The roleplay was about swordfighting I acted as if i was fighting with my dick against hers and she digged it, we start roleplaying about how she uses protection harness (condom) and she asks me only swordfighting will get boring we should have variations. I answer saying well there are different kind of swords .. rubber swords (Dildo ;) etc.. She laughs. She tells me she has been learning how to strip pole dance today and I tell her "great! you should show me a bit later on!" she says well maybe we could arrange something yea. Girls are getting thirsty and she is the one getting beer, when she comes back with the beer she isn't all that fun anymore.. nonetheless I ask her to go outside with me, she tells me "nah it's too cold".. I don't understand as she was clearly showing (even) some sexual interest in me. Decide to tell them goodbye and go back to Café Local.

[ALPHA MOMENT lol] Back in Café Local I see blondie again who asked me for my Facebook, decide to talk a while and then tell here "it's too loud here I can't hear you, come", take her by the hand and grab her. She is kinda hesitant looking or speaking to her girlfriends while I drag here but she follows. I see some free chairs and tell her 'Take a seat" we sit next to eachother.. and who do I see in the corner of my eye? The three chicks which I roleplayed where one was my ex. Eitherway I wave to them and talk along with blondie, she's feeling awkward and I don't know why because my state wasn't portraying that (perhaps should have taken here where it was even quieter). I know that i can K-close her now and I start looking in her eyes, as I'm about to K-close one of those three girls steps in and tells her "don't believe anything he's saying" I can't believe my eyes as these bitches are now cockblocking me with a girl they've never even seen! They make blondie feel even more awkward and she doesn't know who to believe now, I tell her "don't believe them they've been messing with me all night!". Blondie decides to leave as she doesn't know what to think now. I go back to one of the three chicks that cockblocked me and let her now that this is NOT ok, I look her in the eyes in a really mad way while talking with her, and she starts playing all kind of psychological games on me (mad bitch lol). This is where I tell her "If you were a guy i'd be all over you know" (just random shit to loosen up the conv.) I stand my ground and just keep standing with her letting her know this is not ok, I noticed that this is not the right approach. I try to get at it the dramatic way and tell her "You know, she was the one that asked me for my facebook?" I see a womanly change in her eyes and notice I touched her feels now. She tells me "You know you could get better than her, more pretty", I tell her "I don't give a fuck about more pretty, I really liked her" she says "Yea right" but I stand my ground. After a while she notices she might actually have fucked over my night and perhaps a good girl for me, and now she is apologizing and telling me she wants to make up for it !! She is willing to talk to blondie and make up for it so I tell her she should and we both walk up to blondie.. she explains it was a joke, and guess who just added me on Facebook just now! WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER.

What I found out tonight is that I AM able to get girls interested /attracted in me, my next sticking point however is how to get them sexually interested in me.

Sometimes eventhough I'm not really feeling disinterest, girls (want to) leave me, you see one pointing at the bar to get a drink, and then talking probably like "should we leave him or?" this is where I mostly just say " see you later ;)" before they can tell me they are leaving and act like it's not a problem for me (I go where the party is ;). I'm not sure how to react to this, I know for sure that chasing is a BAD thing, so mostly I just decide to go open another set.

For next night I gotta prepare some material to try out just like the "Only one ball" routine, Ideas??


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17/01/2014, Fridaynight, First SOLO sarge at NOXX.

I'm gonna try to keep this a short one and write only the most important things.

What was special about this night?
This was the first night that I felt the old natural Firebirdz coming out again, I suddenly saw a flash of how I used to pick up chicks in the past. And remembered that most of this stuff was just acting crazy, being who I am, and not giving a fuck. Slowly, FR per FR I'm learning how to do pickup in a more FUN way (when I started with my FR's I took 'the game' way to serious, with the mindset that 'If I say the perfect things her legs will open'). Which is SO wrong, as the most important thing IMO is the vibe that you create and whether you are able to maintain it or not.

Good thing I also learned last night: if a girl makes a weird face (for instance when she didn't quite understand you) I'll imitate that face but exagerrated, mostly that'll crack a nice laugh out of them.

I met a really cute girl, 17 years old, a model from Albania (with the body of a goddess!). I saw two eldery people stand next to her and I thought these were her parents, but actually it was her aunt and uncle. We talk a bit and I'm able to keep the kino up, she is resisting a bit but through push pull and persistance she finally opens up to Kino. After a while it becomes obvious we like eachother and she is know saying things like 'I like your hair' 'I like you' and hugging me.. we have lots of SERIOUS eye contact and really want to kiss. But she says she doesn't want to kiss because her aunt is there. I try to work with the logistics, but since the uncle is gone for a few hours, the aunt would be left alone at the bar and she didn't like that. So I decide to tell them I'll be back, and go on to game some other chicks.

By the time I get back to her, the uncle is back and I ask her aunt politely to take her niece to dance with me and she complies. We are now together on the dancefloor and she is dancing so fucking hot that I almost come in my pants (Just kidding, but damn that ass). We have some Kino and I decide it's time for the kiss and we look eachother in the eyes and she comes closer but she kinda refuses.. I don't know how or what the fuck but it seems as if she is playing games with me now. I show her that I don't take shit by freezing her out and putting my self aside and grabbing my phone, she comes to me after a while and pulls me out to dance with her, I try to kiss her again, and she wants it but somehow doesn't do it (I mean come on, at age 17 you should have kissed some people right..?). I dance a little and decide to approach another girl when she is right there, she is now kinda pissed but I know she wants me even more. I really wish I could tell you that she kissed me here but somehow she still didn't. I got a kiss on the lips JEEPERS. After all this her aunt walks in and it's time for her to go home, she asked my FB so we'll be in contact and she wants to meet this summer.

I seemingly seem to be more attractive to girls of age 17-19, and I don't know why, somehow girls at age 20+ are more of bitches and have bigger defensive shields, and thus I don't know how to act crazy according to the 20+ age.

Met a REALLY cute girl who was obviously a playish kinda girl, used to getting approached, so I talk with her and after a while she starts dancing a bit towards her friends and I tell her 'are u always this nice to people?' and she opens up a bit. She needs to go to the toilet so we decide to meet later. I do meet her later and the first thing she says to me is 'Where is my drink?!' I answer with 'Yeah where is it?' and I open my hand as if a beer could fit in and tell here 'Where's my beer?' 'Ok let's make a deal, you buy me a drink first and then I'll buy you one' she says 'I don't have any money' and I reply 'Me neither' (I do but, fuck this golddigger) I decide to bail on her just because off her attitude.

Approached another girl which was kinda drunk and things where going great, she wanted my facebook so I gave it, just as we are about to kiss, her fuckbuddy walks in between us and takes her away. wat.

3 things:
1. I need to learn how to polarize these 20+ chicks.
2. I need to close faster, sometimes I just get solid eyecontact, and (I think) that's when I just need to go in and BAM kiss them.
3. How to game 'out of your league' chicks.


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18/01/2014, Saturdaynight, Soloish sarge at Café Local (Some people from RSD where here also)

I really don't feel like writing this report but I have to persist through the tough times. Last night was another bad one for me, but a good one for my potential improvement.

Somehow (again) the fact that people from RSD where around me got to me and made me more aware of the fact that we were 'gaming' and thus this affected my game.

I approached same amount of chicks tonight as always but there were so many bitches and defensive shields, it was hard to persist, and by the end of the night my Inner game was shattered. Man this whole thing just feels like an emotional rollercoaster sometimes, one time you have solid inner game and are so happy because you get good responses from chicks, the other time your innergame sucks and you just get all the piss right in your face. I think the problem last night was that I just gave too many fucks (also caring too much about the outcome), also because my inner game lacked, bitches could smell fear of rejection. I also noticed that I have a hard time to set my inner game correctly (don't give a shit, don't take shit, I know you want me-> I am the prize) AND at the same time have a good time and be crazy and funny.. I really need to find some kind of middle ground for this.

Also there was this one asshole being really agressive to me all night, just pushing me and provoking me, at one point he was even kind of molesting the chicks I was gaming, just to fuck with me. Since I was alone in set I had no other option than to just reposition my set to another location in the club. This also threw me off my game and had it's effect on my Inner state.

Through persistance and hanging around with some chicks for one and a half hour I managed to get a facebook account, things were ok but I still have no idea how to transition into dancing with them (sometimes you are just both dancing and feel like it gets boring, but also you just know when you stick your hand out they will not take it)

I noticed that I have no idea what to do if guys start gaming the chick that I'm gaming.

I really need to work on my screening tactics for instance ask 'Hey is that your boyfriend?!' and check for their reactions.

Somehow I'm still looking at things in too much of a logical way like 'OK I'll ask her name and then I'll ask what she does in life' .. but then again sometimes there's just nothing popping up in my mind.. no creativity.

Sticking points for this FR:
*I still need to learn how to polarize (I read somewhere that by just being yourself and making statemens you can do that, but sometimes you don't even get the opportunity)
*I'm not really reaching a whole lot of hooking points at the moment and thus there must be something wrong in my early game.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:07 pm 
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25/01/14

STATE IS EVERYTHING! I went from beginner to intermediate in one night. WOW

I really want to thank the RSD guys for putting up such a great mood/state (Lu Xin ur a beast), This + Sacrificing the lamb = My ultimate state.

I K-closed 5 girls and will be having a day 2 in a few hours. My game was so solid that I didn't need to number close,, they number closed me !

So this one girl I was able to deliver LOTS of value to her as she had problems with her lessons of web development.. guess what.. I'm a webdeveloper! I forgot her name and she got quite mad, but this was after kissing her, so I just said 'who says I forgot your name, I just wanna say it when we're alone together' Luckily later that night I saw her name on her phone and a bit later I brought up the subject again and told her name.. she was dazzled lol.

Another girl I was kissing with asked me 'answer me seriously; how many girls have you kissed already tonight ?' I said '50' 'and you're 51' and just switched topic.. It's funny how non reactiveness and switching topics is the answer for most of the 'problems' in game.

Things to remember:
I'm quite good at seeing which girls will be worth the effort and which not.
STATE IS EVERYTHING
KINOOOOOOOOOOOOO


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I need to write this in success stories but this shit is absolutely amazing.

Today I had my 2nd F-close thanks to PU and self improvement. The weekend before I kissed 5 girls and laid one of them the day after. Hell, who knows what is to come the next weekend, a threesome?!

I used to be a computergames addict (being quite good at it I must admit, ranked #700 of 13 million players in EUW) I noticed after a while that I actually had NO LIFE.
So a few months ago I just started getting out of a pretty serious 5 month long depression.. piece by piece I was rebuilding my life, things started going uphill from when I got my driver's license, after that I got a new job, and my second life started roling..

When bumping in to it online again I thought pff.. Pick-up I tried that before... but I thought what the heck let's try it FOR real this time, I will FULLY commit myself to this. A month ago I started researching like crazy, and from the weekend following to that I start doing EVERYTHING possible in my way to improve.. this also meant solosarging,.. untill.. I met the guys at RSD Inner Circle (from which I was also able to learn alot of things)
I was reading 2-3 books (Start by for once seriously reading The Game, then How to become an alpha male by John Alexander, and Models by Mark Manson), and doing AT LEAST 2 hours of research (and development ;) ) e v e r y day, I got obsessed with it.
I started going to the gym, started watching my nutrition, took dancing classes, got more into playing guitar, started enjoying my job more, and I have some great work/financial plans ahead.
I got out of my comfort zone, built massive confidence and learned how to be my self again, and by doing this I noticed one thing;

wow LIFE CAN BE GREAT, HOW COULD I'VE FORGOTTEN ?!

Pick-Up is SO much more then just gaming chicks, it takes you on a journey beyond your wildest dreams!

One of the lines I like the most that fits my journey; LIFE STARTS WHERE YOUR COMFORTZONE ENDS!


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Just a small update, I'm currently only updating my FR on RSD nation where I have over 4 pages and more than 1000 views already.
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/510243


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