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Beschatten
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 Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: Field Tested: Fractionating alpha behavior. |
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My results varied. I approached maybe 15 women using this and at first they seemed a little skeptical about me approaching them and after the reframe they seemed to ease into things a little bit. After the approach I told the women I was a PUA and I asked for their honest opinion on the first impression and what they thought of me. Some said it was endearing, some thought it was cute, some were like "this kid is a fucking loser". This was not field tested during the night. All day game. This would not work well in the night unless you opened rAFC-like. AFC would be too harsh.
So basically, if you can run it tightly it works. Now the "WOW" factor (the big fucking boom in the PU) can be created using this. This is what I want to call the hooking point. The hooking point is created after 2-3 reframes. You don't need to go through A1 of Mystery model because the attraction is created through the reframes or the "Spontaneous" effect that you put them through. The AFC behavior is essentially a big push, and the Alpha reframe is the big pull. It's the opposite of what you would think of a regular push/pull. You're job is to create rapport and comfort during these reframes. This is a very hard task. Much harder than I thought it would be. This is very difficult if the set is more than 3. I'm going to continue playing with the quickest way to build comfort and rapport while reframing. This could be fucking big if I can figure it all out. No women during the day has ever said "Fuck off" or rejected me impolitely. They would politely eject if things were not going well for them or awkward. You will not get blown out of the set as easily as anyone expected.
Now for the Day 2's, I'm thinking about reframing from different alpha characteristics: the jerk, the nice guy, the badboy, the wild guy, then go into caveman or seduction. I will keep you guys posted on this.
All in all, you can call this a semi-success. After the kinks of all of it are worked out I will give you guys a step-by-step model to go by. |
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Madals
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Gratz on the field testing! looks interesting, especially the way u didnt get blown out a single set. My question is, how did they react to you turning round saying u were a PUA and what they thought? lol.
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"Really? No way ahaha."
"Are you serious? What is that?"
"No way..." |
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worldwidechris
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May not be the same thing, but I'll approach sets (works great on lone women) and do the AFC thing then BAM!! I'm suddenly THE alpha. I've used it a bunch of times and I never count success rates since I can # close and K close at will, and if I want a one-night stand I'll do that. Wish I could put this into words/give a good blow-by-blow scenario (so to speak), as I have never paid any attention to what I'm saying (just what's happening).
I usually approach with the AFC lines and typical behavior of an AFC, then once I see them start to auto-shutdown, I switch to PUA/alpha mode and take control of the situation/direction of her actions (it's like toying with them, I'm an asshole). Works pretty good for getting them into the final attraction stages and beginning comfort-building stages, from which it's pretty easy for numbers/kisses/rides home.
I agree with you, it's tough to put this into words, and when I started I would definitely NOT have the balls to do this. Good luck on your journey, and if I'm in the same ballpark as you, I'd love to help put the aspects of this into print... |
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