I was thinking today about initiating first contact after you get the number and whether a call or text would be better. Now I definitely think a call is necessary when you went direct game on a girl and asked for her number with the purpose of taking her out sometime. But what if you are showing disinterest in order to attract?
For example I was out the other night with some friends and this group of girls joined us. One of them was loud and overconfident. Not really my type at all but I think it'll be good for practise. She's like a 7 for looks. anyways I just froze her out most of the night, flirted with her friends, and only ever talked to her really to neg her or bust her balls. The only nice thing I said to her all night was "nice phone". She had an iphone out and I asked to see it. I started playing around with it. those things r awesome. then she asked for my phone and wouldn't u know she snuck her number in there. She also told some of my friends she wants to see me some time. she has my number (she tricked me out of that too) but I'm guessing she won't initiate anything unless I show a little interest. Problem is I want to keep showing disinterest until she earns my interest so I think a call would be showing too much and a text would be more appropriate in this situation.

what do you guys think about the rules of first text/call?

I always follow-up with calls, that within 1-2 days after getting the number. Depending on how much interest she showed (and I think putting her no in your phone is a major IOI) I would either take her out straight away and build sexual tension or bring some not too alpha friends (could also be girls) with you and take her somewhere to hit on her more. In the latter case, make sure you don't bring anyone who could out-game you, cause I think girls like that are veeery suceptible to that.

She also sounds like the kind of girl who will likely throw you a lot of shit tests, so watch out for those and react well on them (goes without saying )

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If you like her, wait some days to call her for a date.

about texting: why texting her if you only said 2 words to her irl...

good luck

haha. why bother CALLING her if I've only said 2 words to her irl. its too wide a transition and i think its showing too much interest on my part personally. my plan is to pretend I just realized she put her number in my phone and comment on how sneaky those girls can be ;P

Call is definitely preferable but still 90% of communication is non verbal you really need to be 'in-front' of her!

Text is good to build comfort if you're not so confident about calling straight way.

Also you can text to let her know you're going to be calling a bit later and she should have something interesting to say! Or prepared an answer to a question in you're text.

Again text/calling should primarily be to setup a day2. There is a theme with calling too early as being too keen. I'd even flake if a girl started calling me straight away. Really just gauge what she prefers.

ya i agree 100% with walt. it all depends on the situation and u just have to know whether being keen and calling is appropriate or might put her off. good call. btw i texted her and things are going well

I just text. If she doesn't like it then that's her bad.

don't listen to the "call rather than text" bullshit.

That is taken from OLD pua material. The modern blueprint is to start out with texts and then move into calling so that you escalate her comfort levels.

of course it depends on the situation though. for example, if you are 25, and gaming a 40 year old milf, texting might not be the best idea. whereas if you are gaming a 19 year old, calling is probably gonna make you look like a dinosaur.

if you number close on a cold approach and then call rather than text, it is more likely that she won't answer, or even return the call.

What Sexcellent said.

Most girls/women I know text only. Text before you date, Call after you fuck them.

CK

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i think it really depends on the girl... but it's always better to call the next day after getting the number because it shows confidence. then, it doesnt matter much.

I disagree

AFC's call the next day ALLLLLL the time. As much as you think it displays confidence, I think it displays neediness.

Exactly. When I've been number closed by chicks, I HATE it when they call. Absolutely hate it. They don't know my schedule... Chances of them calling during school or something important is high.

Texts, I can read any time, respond on my schedule.

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Do what you gotta do, don't look into it that much. If she likes you, it doesn't matter whether you call or text. If you get her at work she can just ignore the call and text you telling you shes at work. It's not like you're supposed to know her schedule.

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Bull, I call all the time, becuase unlike RAFC's I'm not overthinking.

Inner game BIATCH!

Neediness is someones need for you to be in their life. Someone giving you a phone call to say "hi", is not needy in the slightest, it would be if you were caling her 3 times a day. But your over-using "needy", it's quite a common problem with MM to be terified of being seen as "needy" or a dreaded "AFC". And then end up over-compensating as a result.

Seriously, I would be worried about NOT displaying enough intrest.

From what I can see, she's taken charge so far... ..she's done all the seducing

This.
Advantages of a text
- no time constraint, answer when you can or talk solidly
- Can spend a whole day texting every half hour or so builds a lot of comfort
- Can't be overheard
- Can do other things while texting
Advantages of a call
- can use voice