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I haven't done this, but I'm sure AFCs do it all the time. Just walk up and ask if you can buy the girl a drink before saying anything else. I'm sure it usually ends bad, but what if you didn't have any intention of buying her a drink? If she says no, then you might get blown out, but if she says "Ok, vodka tonic", then you ask her if you can borrow ten bucks, or tell her you were just screwing with her. It's basically like an instant break of rapport and disqualifier. Might be a little awkward, but if you had good routine to follow that up you might come across as cocky funny. I dunno, any experience or ideas about this one?

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puaninja wrote:
if she says "Ok, vodka tonic"

How about
Pua: That would be $5 for the drink and $10 for my services.
Her: wtf / laughs / calls you a loser
Pua: were you thinking that I came free with the drinks! Pffft.


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I've screwed much more chances with girls by not offering a drink and acting like a cocky and funny PUA, than the times I've gotten some real result by acting as a PUA.

If the girl finds you already attractive or is open to meet someone, she will get completely turned off if you by your cocky and funny joke.

There are some few girls that would like to take advantage of you, get their free drinks and blow you off once you will ask something from them or when you stop providing the free drinks. To those ones these jokes like:
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Pua: That would be $5 for the drink and $10 for my services.


might work like a Charm, in order to start a flirty fun conversation... Just remember that once she is interested in you, it might be wise to actually buy the drink to her.


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I opened a two set last night. neither was great looking but it was early in the night and i just wanted to get warmed up. Anyhow As I told them i was leaving one of them said "for our advice, arn't you going to buy us a drink". I looked her in the eye, smiled and said "we live in a society that dictates equality. you've had several minutes of my time and i'm awesome....why dont YOU buy ME a drink". She didn't know what to say.....i walked off.


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Interesting idea. Now I have never bought a stranger a drink, so my reaction is purely hypothetical. I think the idea behind buying a girl a drink is that she now owes you a conversation. Basically, you're trying to buy her time and attention, which is strange since your time and attention should be equally if not more valuable. Nonetheless, I wouldn't make a promise and then immediately back out, because what kind of first impression does that make? But buying her a drink does skew the balance of power, which I believe undesirable. What I would do to fix this, is try to make her offer something in return, i.e. to make the drink conditional. Singing is one of my favorite suggestions, but telling a good joke, or even giving you something in return like a cigarette or her seat, should suffice.* Make sure you ask her what she can offer before you suggest something. None of this sounds very foolproof though, so don't try if you are afraid of rejection.

*I try to make girls do these things without offering them drinks, I like to be entertained when I go out :D

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Too bad you walked off, I would have enjoyed to hear what she could come up with. Pretty cool move though 8)

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Timo wrote:
But buying her a drink does skew the balance of power, which I believe undesirable. What I would do to fix this, is try to make her offer something in return, i.e. to make the drink conditional. Singing is one of my favorite suggestions, but telling a good joke, or even giving you something in return like a cigarette or her seat, should suffice

Sounds interesting. Have to try it in field. Will report back.


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To me, a girl asking a guy to buy them a drink is just as bad as the guy asking if he can buy her a drink.

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It's manipulative! I feel that when you buy a drink for a girl, you've given up your power to her. She knows she can make you her little bitch buying more drinks for her, and attraction goes downhill.

Don't get caught in the trap or her asking you to buy her a drink either! I had a set good incredibly well once, but then she pestered me to do it. I bought one for myself as well as if to try and negate what power I might be giving up by buying her a drink. Turns out I didn't pull her...

Also, most other AFC's do it. Set yourself apart from them. You don't want her to think 'Here we go again!'...

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What about buying a girl a drink once she passes your tests, jumps through your hoops, as a reward etc

Obviously it's a different ball game if the girl is being bitchy and expectant of a free drink.

I know a guy who used to go up to the hottest girls at the bar, sit down next to them, look at one of the girls and say "what are you drinking?". She might say "just a Jd and coke..." or "why?" maybe thinking he is about to buy her a drink or offer. Then he would just say to the bartender "two of them drinks". Once the drinks arrived, he would say "cheers" to the bartender and just walk off with the two drinks. He wasn't a pua, he just didn't give a fuck.


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would never buy a girl a drink unless i knew i was getting laid.


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Tell her she has to earn it first though.


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I know a guy who used to go up to the hottest girls at the bar, sit down next to them, look at one of the girls and say "what are you drinking?". She might say "just a Jd and coke..." or "why?" maybe thinking he is about to buy her a drink or offer. Then he would just say to the bartender "two of them drinks". Once the drinks arrived, he would say "cheers" to the bartender and just walk off with the two drinks. He wasn't a pua, he just didn't give a fuck.


that is fucking priceless love that shit

once you opened and worked the set being the first to buy a round of drinks isnt an issue IMO but be sure to make it clear its a round and after the first drinks are empty its her turn to buy after all going to a club/pub etc is about getting drunk and getting laid. but buying drink after drink comes off as needy and they generally play along for a cheap night


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JohnnyValentine wrote:
What about buying a girl a drink once she passes your tests, jumps through your hoops, as a reward etc

Obviously it's a different ball game if the girl is being bitchy and expectant of a free drink.

I know a guy who used to go up to the hottest girls at the bar, sit down next to them, look at one of the girls and say "what are you drinking?". She might say "just a Jd and coke..." or "why?" maybe thinking he is about to buy her a drink or offer. Then he would just say to the bartender "two of them drinks". Once the drinks arrived, he would say "cheers" to the bartender and just walk off with the two drinks. He wasn't a pua, he just didn't give a fuck.


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puaninja wrote:
I haven't done this, but I'm sure AFCs do it all the time. Just walk up and ask if you can buy the girl a drink before saying anything else. I'm sure it usually ends bad, but what if you didn't have any intention of buying her a drink? If she says no, then you might get blown out, but if she says "Ok, vodka tonic", then you ask her if you can borrow ten bucks, or tell her you were just screwing with her. It's basically like an instant break of rapport and disqualifier. Might be a little awkward, but if you had good routine to follow that up you might come across as cocky funny. I dunno, any experience or ideas about this one?



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