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After 5 days of not jacking off I'm starting to sleep better, anyone else ever noticed this?


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So who agrees with the opinion that abstaining from jackin off increases your testosterone?
I've been wanking since 13 or so. Now I am 24 and started the nofap challenge not so long ago. And actually, it works. It's almost 4 weeks since my last wank and I feel great (except when I am drunk and become extremely horny, but I managed no to relapse and don't touch my dick, so good for me).

On science: yes, testosterone level increases and hits its peak on 5th-7th day, then it decreases BUT still it stays higher than before time of nofap. So it's a win-win situation. Also I feel more motivated and more confident, especially among women (I love flirting with my co-workers now.

It takes a great will power not to fap, especially for those guy, who have no girlfriends or wives and especially for those, who stay at home all the time (quite impossible in my opinion), but luckily, I am quite busy and been working like a slave, so 4-5 days a week I feel so exhausted that fapping even doesn't cross my mind. It's only on my spare time, when I have to rationally convince myself that fapping is a waste of energy and just stop browsing nudes etc. :D

Again, this isn't magic pill, but it has more pros than cons, so I would suggest anyone, who feel lack of motivation and lack of confidence approaching women to stop fapping.


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Most of you are still young and may seem to be able to afford it,masterbation with
ejaculation of your sexual energy.I also bring to attention men who are 30yrs. and above who care about their health ,longevity and quality of their lives.Why is your semen precious? it's because it is the product of contributions from your vital organs of brain,heart,lungs,liver,kidneys etc. according to taoist wisdom who are
natural scientists.Here is advice as to the frequency men should ejaculate.Yes the old wife's tales are true.

From the book Multi orgasmic man
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The Taoist ideal is to ejaculate as infrequently as you can, but every man can and should refrain from ejaculating for a period of time suited to him. In the words of Su Nü, "One must measure one's own strength and ejaculate accordingly. Anything else is simply force and foolishness." Your strength depends on your age, your health, your state of mind, and your willpower.
Sun Ssu-miao, one of the leading physicians of ancient China recommended that men attain good health and longevity by ejaculaing twice a month, as long as they ate healthily and exercised. He also offered the following more specific guidelines.

A man at twenty can ejaculate once every four days.
A man at thirty can ejaculate once every eight days.
A man at forty can ejaculate once every ten days.
A man at fifty can ejaculate once every twenty days.
A man at sixty should no long ejaculate.


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It goes without saying that his prescription did not limit the number of times a man of any age could have sex and non-ejaculatory orgasms. This restriction on ejaculation may sound like a disappointment, but once you have had multiple non-ejaculatory orgasms, you won't miss ejaculating at all. In the words of one multi-orgasmic man, "Once you have multi's [non-ejaculatory orgasms], you never want to go back to squirt [ejaculatory] orgasms. Squirt orgasms are just in your genitals, multi's are whole-body orgasms."

Sun Ssu-miao, who lived to 101, ejaculated only after making love one hundred times. But rather than adhering to any rigid numerical formula, you should try to pay attention to your body. If you are exhausted or sick, drunk or stuffed with food, you should avoid ejaculating. If you are working hard you will want to conserve your semen, but if you are on vacation you may wish to ejaculate a little more often. The ancient Taoists, who lived close to nature, also believed that just as plants and animals conserve their energy in winter, so should people. Besides the seasons, there are other rhythms that will determine the number of times you ejaculate. If you are trying to conceive a child, you will need to ejaculate whenever your partner is ovulating.

In general, when you ejaculate you should feel refreshed and energetic. If ejaculating leaves you feeling empty, depressed, or exhausted, you need to increase the amount of time between ejaculations or avoid ejaculating altogether until you build up your sexual energy. When you do ejaculate, you can conserve some semen and sexual energy by approaching the point of no return slowly rather than thrusting vigorously to a climax. After you ejaculate, you can also practice PC contractions to tighten your pelvic muscles and reduce the amount of energy that typically leaks out after ejaculation.

At the same time it is important not to become obsessive about non-ejaculation and not to give yourself a hard time when you do ejaculate. As Michael Winn explains, "It is very important not to be fanatical about non-ejaculation. A lot of men who learn about Sexual Kung Fu think, 'Wow, this is great. It makes sense. I want to do it.' And then they have a problem controlling their ejaculation. And then they start passing judgment on themselves and feeling guilty. They are missing the point, which is not even whether you ejaculate or not, but whether you are able to recycle some of the sexual energy up through your body before you ejaculate. Obviously, the longer you can delay your ejaculation, the greater your opportunity to cultivate this energy for creative and spiritual growth. If you need to ejaculate and it's coming and you can't sop i, just go for it. Don't beat yourself up. Because what is really imporant ultimately is not just the energy in the sperm, but the overall love between you and your partner."
THe proper way is to conserve and recirculate your sexual energy which is contained in the sperm back to your body through the body's microcosmic orbit
which is one of the pathways in the body much like the accupunture meridiens
or system of energy points located all over the body.You can find out more when
read Mantak Chia's books.There is also the female version of it.

From Mantak Chia's Taoist secrets of love-Cultivating Male sexual Energy
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Chinese aristocrats and adepts seeking the deepest level of
fulfillment have long had the capacity to return the energy of the
seminal fluid to the brain and vital bodily centers. But ordinary
people in our society have, until now, had no technique for recycling
this great life power to the body. Most men have found the
sexual lure irresistibly attractive and have happily lost their seed
when succumbing to it, unaware of the consequences to their
health or that there was even an alternative available to them.
With frequent ejaculation of sperm vitality ultimately plummets.
The big spender loses stamina, his vision begins to weaken,
hair tumbles from his skull: he grows old before his time. At first he
will not feel drained, but after years of abuse his capacities will
begin to drop alarmingly. When the hormonal secretions of the
sexual glands are regularly leached out, the body is sapped at its
root. Within a period of time that will range from months to decades
depending on the endowment of the individual, creative and
sexual abilities are halved, and the ability to withstand disease and
the frailties of old age is diminished.

To regain failing powers, the desperate big spender of vital
seed sometimes tries to borrow well-being from hormone injections,
"uppers," "downers," intoxicants, megavitamins, hallucinogens,
and aphrodisiacs. These substances frantically stuffed
into the body may appear to help temporarily. He may seek to
regain his dwindling sexual powers with personal power purchased
with money or political influence. If he is on a spiritual path, or is
surrounded by a loving community of family and friends, this feeling
of a failing life power will be slowed. But so long as the
prodigious energy waste continues, decline is inevitable. The organs of
digestion will be unable to assimilate sufficient nutritional energies
to replace those irrecoverable life energies lost by ejaculation.
The Taoist method of cultivating sexual energy recirculates to
the body the hormones, proteins, vitamins, enzymes, minerals and
electrical energies of the semen. When they are conserved and
transformed, one enjoys a marvelous sexual life, improved health,
deep inner balance, and rising spiritual consciousness.

The Taoist method of love actually stimulates the production
of hormonal substances of unusually high quality. One can learn to
focus energy on the endocrine glands during the act of love. When
the glands are bathed in energy, the quantity of their secretions
increases; more importantly, their quality improves. At higher
stages in the practice the hormones develop extraordinary properties.
The Sexual Kung Fu method allows one to generate and conserve
more nervous and hormonal energy than are necessary for
ordinary functioning. This excess vitality may be channeled to
strengthen the body and to raise mental and spiritual abilities.
When lovers are in close embrace subtle Yin and Yang energies are
concentrated into vortexes from the sexual region to the head and
eventually remain in the head at all times.

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AS someone who has been doing it 2-3 times a weekday and 3-4 times a weekend day since about 12, I must say this is extremely difficult to keep up (no pun intended)


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AS someone who has been doing it 2-3 times a weekday and 3-4 times a weekend day since about 12, I must say this is extremely difficult to keep up (no pun intended)
For your health sakes I urge you to gird your loins and change this habit.It will impair analytical thinking if you are a student in school/university.Strength wise
if you do sports or manual labour type work.Lastly most important of all the use of your eyes,certainly you still want to look at beautiful women.This is in incentive
enough for you to make a concerted effort to improve all areas of your life.It's still not too late for you I think.Go do research on chinese medicine and it's method of achieving optimal health.At least I put this information out as most people are not aware of the effects of long term masterbation.Like in the advice
from the taoist method ,learn to recirculate your sexual energy back to your body.Let's say you do solo cultivation meaning masterbation just before the onset of ejaculation and you stop or use your PC muscles to prevent ejaculation
and put your tongue to the roof of your mouth (essential) this will connect a switch energetically for this sexual energy to pass to your navel where it exits
or completes the circuit in electrical terms.It it technically a rolling/valley orgasm and for example you manage to do this 6 times and cannot control the onset of ejaculation for the 7th. time,you only loose 1/7th. of your total sexual energy
which is not as bad as one full conventional orgasm where you loose ALL of it.

Edit: This sexual energy circuit starts from the gland that produce sperm and enters the tail bone or cocyx,up the spine to the crown chakra on top of the brain
and down through the third eye ,throat ,heart and solar plexus charkas and out to the navel.Providing your tongue make contact with the area just behind the teeth
of the roof of the mouth to complete this circuit.

BTW how old are you now? How is life working for you ? Yes it seems difficult but
the consequences are severe.Can you analyse now? I think not. :(

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So I went to a sex therapist for a while, and learned a ton about myself (and porn). Masterbating is fine...but if it gets in the way of your life and relationships, then of course its a big problem. So he had me abstain from it for at least 90 days. Porn was a no-no.
Would you recommend a sex therapist ?

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So I went to a sex therapist for a while, and learned a ton about myself (and porn). Masterbating is fine...but if it gets in the way of your life and relationships, then of course its a big problem. So he had me abstain from it for at least 90 days. Porn was a no-no.
Would you recommend a sex therapist ?
A sex therapist much like a western trained doctor can only evaluate based on external cause and symtoms without understanding the big picture and subtle energies that flow through the human body.When the life energies ( chi) and sexual energy (ching) are unbalanced it also affects the mental and physical state whereby affecting behaviours and actions.

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You should not be decreasing your horniess with a diet. You should be redirecting your horniness from your right hand into sarging and approaching women.
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I seemed up online if too much self pleasuring is bad, and I visited on the first weblink that poped up. It described that self pleasure is a normal and balanced sex-related actions. Like other habits, when over used or dependent it can cause to both emotional and physical instability.

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For your health sakes I urge you to gird your loins and change this habit.It will impair analytical thinking if you are a student in school/university.Strength wise
if you do sports or manual labour type work.Lastly most important of all the use of your eyes,certainly you still want to look at beautiful women.
What's the proof behind any of that? I have ejaculated on average probably twice a day for six or seven years (if not more) and have recently graduated from Cambridge in History (which is all about critical thinking). Not done me too much harm has it.... I am also a fairly successful cricketer and footballer. And when I last had my eyes checked (admittedly almost a year ago now), my eyesight was "almost perfect" according to the optician.

This is with a record of ejaculating probably two times a day, often more than that. What science is there to prove any of what you have said? Rumours and myths from ancient cultures mean very little in reality. If anything, I dare say all of the chinese stuff people have discussed above has a placebo affect on some people; more mental than physical. But if that's the case, then you can achieve the same results without having to limit your ejaculation.


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after reading some topics and hearing some people saying , i think that masturbating can effect physical et mental capacities. for ex i have low concentration sometimes i missread it for i and its due to masturbating and it was written somewhere
and there are other issues the most dangerous one is not having motivation and strong will to do things , i hate this prob my shrink told me that its due to masturbating and it was written to in a topic

so i try and i will try my best to get rid of this bad habit


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What's the proof behind any of that? I have ejaculated on average probably twice a day for six or seven years (if not more) and have recently graduated from Cambridge in History (which is all about critical thinking). Not done me too much harm has it.... I am also a fairly successful cricketer and footballer. And when I last had my eyes checked (admittedly almost a year ago now), my eyesight was "almost perfect" according to the optician.

This is with a record of ejaculating probably two times a day, often more than that. What science is there to prove any of what you have said? Rumours and myths from ancient #ultures mean very little in reality. If anything, I dare say all of the chinese stuff people have discussed above has a placebo affect on some people; more mental than physical. But if that's the case, then you can achieve the same results without having to limit your ejaculation.
For the record I'm not anti-masturbation or ejaculation but for controlled ejaculation.Please verify,cross and counter check not only ancient Chinese as
well as modern western scientific evidence.There's enough leads from this thread as well as the 40 day masturbation challenge.Yes there's overlapping info
but that's for emphasis.

To all young horny men of the world ,let this be the place/forum where this information is disseminated for your benefit.As you are the driver of life,body and cock,it pays to know what's up ahead of the road.To be forewarned is to be prepared.The proof is in your body but that will be years away try 30 then don't be surprised. :D The Chinese were ahead of western sexologists by a far margin.
This is not to boast but that the taoist were medical scientists and had over the mellenia observed the evidence through their own bodies and experimentation.
This is unequivocally not a placebo effect!
And you are a history graduate.You mean it's not factual,it's a historical hoax? :lol:

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Source: Sexual reflexology. Mantak Chia, W.U.Wei
pg. 67-68
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According to western medicine,men naturally replace their semen
soon after ejaculation and have a virtually linitless supply.This generalisation is very misleading.Ejaculation can be compared to blood
donation.After donating blood, people feel weak and tired for a day or two, until the lost blood is replenished.Blood clinics suggest that people only donate a few times each year in order to avoid chronic fatique,lowered resistance and excessive strain on the circulatory system.Chines medicine holds that the same point applies to semen,except that the loss of semen is even more difficult to replace
than blood.A great deal of essence and energy are needed to completely replace semen supplies and restore proper hormone balance after ejaculation.

If the frequency of ejaculation supasses the body's ability to completely
replace the semen,men go through chronic fatique, decreases resistance,
irritability and other indications of depleted essence and energy,Futhermore,they lose all sexual interest in their partners,who could very well desire additional lovemaking.While it may be the case that adolescents and young men in their early 20s replace semen at a pace that permits frequent ejaculation,the idea that this ability goes on indefinitely into adulthood is absurd.Rather it is women,and not men,whose sexual power is virtually unlimited.
It should be noted though,that celibacy is not the answer either,because that deprives men of the benefits of sexual stimulation.
The solution then,is ejaculation control.Regular coitus (sexual intercourse) with infrequent ejaculation keeps a man's interest in the act and his ability to continue indefinitely until his mate is completely satisfied.In dact,males who ejaculate one or more times daily might eventually "lose their mind".Frequent ejaculation brings about a chronic loss of vital fluid that the brain and spine neec to operate properly.The resulting deficiency of this critical fluid may bring about premature senility, inability to concentrate,chronic depression,loss of sexual drive and numerous related symtoms.

In addition,modern scientific evidence states that every time a man ejaculates there is a meaningful loss of zinc.Zinc is a rare but extremely important trace element.Therefore.ejaculating too often results in a chronic and serious deficiency of zinc.The symtoms of zinc depletion include loss of memory,confusion,paranoia and hypersensivity to sunlight.It is interesting that these scientific facts seem to substantiate the 'old wife's tale' which claim that masturbating too often often befuddles the mind,weakens the spine and causes blindness.

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source: Sexual reflexology. Mantak Chia, W.u.Wei
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Regulating Ejaculation Frequency
Every school of Taoism believes that retaining semen and proper regulation are essential skills for men of the Way.The mavens of ancient China each left us their own personal guidelines determining
emission frequency.By putting together their different suggestions
with your personal requirements and actaul experience,you can easily
determine an ejacualtion timetable that is appropriate for your personal needs.

To start,let's consider what the Plain Girl said to the Yellow Emperor ( first emperor Shih hwang-ti who united the waring states) on the topic.Being a bit confused by the 'sparing vital
essence' and 'regulating leakage', the Yellow Emperor expressed his
doubts to the Plain Girl ( Taoist female expert/master).This is what she had to say.Some men are strong,others weak.Some men are old,while
others are young.Each person must live according to their own vital force and not try to impel the joys of sex.Impeling joy is harmful.

1) A healthy male of 20 may ejaculate 2 times a day,but an old one should not do so no more than once daily.

2) A 30 year old male may ejaculate once a day,but only once every 2 days if he's not strong.

3) A brandishing 40 year old man can give off semen once every 3 days,but if he's lacking power,he may do so only once every 4 days.

4) A full bodied man 50 years old may eject semen once every 5 days,but only every 10 days if he is lacking strength.

5) A healthy 60 year old man may ejaculate once every 10 days,but only
once every 20 days if he is in poor health.

6) A robust 70 year old man can eject semen once a month,but one lacking strength should no longer emit semen at all.

During the Tang Dynasty,physician Lee Tung-hsuan, in Mysterious Master of the Cave,used the frequency of coitus,rather than number of days,as his recommended measure for regulating emissions.Eg. 2 or 3 times in a 10 day period....

Master Liu Ching...
The seasons have an influence on how often a man may allow himself to ejaculate.In spring,once every 3 days is reasonable,but in summer and fall twice a month is more appropriate.In the cold of winter,there should be no ejaculation at all.Accumulating Yang essence (male energy)
in winter is the way of heaven.Those who follow this advice will live a long and healthy life.A single ejaculation in winter is one hundred times more harmful than a spring time ejaculation.

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