It happened just as I was getting inured to the high rejection of cold approaches, too.

No, I wasn't arrested, but it makes it harder for me to find places to practice, it was a community college, and I'm at risk of a terrible reputation, to say the least, at the rate I've been going.

As to how, I think it comes from sarging in a place too small, primarily, but then again, others sarge at clubs, but then they know the relative parties.

How often does this happen to schmoes like me, anywho?

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Wow...what did you say to her?

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I have not yet experienced something like you did while sarging although I had something similar while knocking door-to-door in a gated community trying to sell paper encyclopedias a very long time ago.

Let's discuss about nonverbal calibration. It's hard to explain this unless someone has actually experienced something similar.

Think of a dirty beggar at a street who is trying to catch your attention, hold eye contact, and smile at you. He gives off a vibe that says, "I want your money." So you don't look at him and treat him like he doesn't exist.

Another example is an insurance salesman at a mall. You're 20 feet away and he's already smiling at you with that doggie-eye-on-the-bowl look on his face. So you ignore him as you pass by his area. The vibe that he gives off is something like, "I want to sell you something."

The vibe that you need to give off so your body language will automatically reflect what's on your mind should be something like this, "It's a beautiful day! The sky is blue. It's so FUCKING awesome!!!"

Now as you walk towards your class, you don't smile at everyone. You look straight ahead and when you catch a girl looking at you, that's the only time that you smile at her and hold eye contact. When she pulls down her gaze (don't pull down yours) and looks back up again, that's your cue.

You say your opener, something like, "Hi there. Good morning." When she replies, you EYE FUCK the shit out of her imagining that you're banging her pussy. When she eye fucks you back, that's your cue to escalate. Hold her hand. DO NOT GRAB HER PRIVATE PARTS. Just hold her hand and talk about anything around the environment or about her. Don't ask questions. Make statements.

The wrong thing to do is to give off a vibe that's something like this, "Woohoo! I want to get laid right now!" So when you approach a girl, she freaks out because your vibe is already on hot mode. Girls heat up slowly unlike guys who immediately get an erection when they see a hot girl. Always keep that in mind. That's the golden rule in sexual escalation: Girls heat up slowly.

The proper way to execute this is to project a neutral, positive vibe at first. When you see the nonverbal cues of submissiveness or horniness from the girl, you immediately transition to being playful and sexual.

Transitioning of Vibe. Learn that and you're good.

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I just feel like any place in which you will start to get recognized especially while not having a real point in being there is going to come off as creepy and people will start wondering who you are or referring to you as "that creepy guy always in that area".

Just have to spread out more, move about, look like you are supposed to be there and such I guess.

Well, let's start with the geography. It was in a large, spacious, all-purpose student-area building with high ceilings, with a cafeteria on one end, and a bookstore and and latte stand on the other, empty podium in the middle, fairly big meeting rooms adjoining, tween nine and ten, with a moderate-to-brisk number of student coming and going, hanging out. I spied a lazy, disaffected girl, less than attractive, by herself, applied the 3-second rule, and approached.

Didn't go well at all; I tried to touch her, and she quite dramatically started back, but no harm, no foul; I ejected, and left the building, not the least because I felt too watched in the open area. You know of all my sarges on campus, there, I've never had a successful on there? I think it's because of all the places on campus, there I'm the least congruent.

My fatal mistake, in my opinion, was to come back some minutes later, open a female two-set, have it go nowhere, and noticed that disaffected girl having nothing better to do than steadily gazing my way, and leave again.

I'm sarging in one the classroom bulidings, a mite later, and am accosted by not just to security officers but evidently some school official standing aback. I tell them the standard line, namely I'm just being friendly, working on my social skills, and they suggest I focus on me, because I can make females nervous. They let me go, I shake their hands, I take the next bus outta campus.

Wasn't exactly warned or threatened, but I had at least wait a couple weeks before returning, in my own wisdom.I made several mistakes, but in the end, I think the biggest was sarging in a pond too small.

Thoughts?

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IMO...it sounds like the touch wasn't yet welcome. But did she give you an IOI that made you think that the touch was okay?

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Don't wanna think my vibe was that bad, but after getting accosted by security, it's hard to dispute results. That said, I haven't been getting in state, and that's ben inpart because I haven't been using my eyes, and that was because I've been afraid to.

I've experimented with my eyes before, on the bus, at the gym, and in church, to interesting results I couldn't capitalize on because I was behaving like a total wuss, but since I've gotten serious in practicing the approach, I haven't used my eyes at all, focusing on conquering my fear of the approach instead.

It seems mostly in hand now, though, and I'm more focused on the lack of success than previous.

I still don't have a good visual impression of the doggie-dinner-bowl look--it's of expectation, yes? The closest image I can think of would be my three-year-old niece expecting a gift (I was cruel). My in my attempt to convey enthusiasm I conveyed need, but I don't know. someone should study me, but oh well.
I met a sweet, quiet girl, yesterday, (I don't think she called security on me, at least), and tried using kino, but telegraphed too much interest, I fear. When she said she had to go, she was at least polite. I am certainly no sexual wildman, but I clearly workon my "vibing."

Let's reimagine the encounter. I'm walking past a seated girl doing homework in the hall. I decide to approach. What's the proper sequence, friend? I don't just use my eyes early and often, do I? How about just as soon as she returns greetings? Do I sit down next her before or during getting attention, or just muscle in like busybody get her attention, and go from there? Crucial questions to me, friend.

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Of course she didn't! I had no idea how to get to that point, though, and in building attraction, I thought you used kino, but if her body language is closed off or disinterested (she was disinterested), kino's not gonna work, yes? I was learning that the hard way.

I take it I just should have plowed on talking till she opened up, then kinoed, or something?

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Are you the same guy that was going up to women at night on a campus you didn't belong to trying to fuck them? Dude almost got arrested and had to explain what he was doing.

Great job my friend. I'm glad you have quick thinking. You'll go places my man.

Poetic (Vic) recommended this guy in one thread and I think this video can help you with projecting a positive, neutral vibe. One thing at a time. We can work later on your sexual vibe. Once you learn this vibe, you can progress to the next step.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAibh3SqRUo[/youtube]

This is the dude and his wife:



A good vibe will give you GOOD results. Work on it. Focus on it. Ezo's Vibe Theory is one of the best things I've learned on this forum. Pass the good word around.

Ezo's Vibe Theory.

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Thats awesome. I would not have had the balls to open a set in front of another in my college.

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I think you are too needy or creepy. It doesn't matter what you do. If a girl likes you, you will be cute. If she doesn't like you, you will be creepy.

In my amateur days, I used to focus a lot on the statistics of approaching until I got results. Approach, aproach, aproach. Once upon a time in a night club when I was searching for targets I heard a girl tell her friend, "No, they are looking for women." I was losing points. In pua lingo, demonstration of lower value (DLV). It also sucks your energy of constantly approaching. At the time I was like kind of Tylder Durden. "I don't give a SHIT!"

Now, I'm different. I look for approach invitations. That takes a lot less effort, less approaches, less rejections and more success. And I don't send the player vibe women hate.

Thirty-five, and balding; that said, I otherwise look youthful.
No, I'm not; don't have a car, and it ain't me. I'm not specifically in this for sex, even; I've got huge goals, like developing cult leader skills, and seduction is fundamental to developing them.

I love mind games, and those 18th century be my role models.

Oh, so a neutral vibe is a high-energy, party vibe?

Also, I'm trying to tell when to approach, and when to back off. When's a good time to decide if a girl's not responding, and you need to eject, as opposed to chickening out when things are going well in set, or else sideways?

By the way, I just approached an hispanic girl, today. She showed disinterested, hands folded, but polite, and smiling. I asked if she was from Mexico, and she said no, Venezuela. Brought up the issue ofthe protests going on, down there, still politely disinterested, hands folded, still smiling. Conceded defeat, and ejected.

Attract, qualify, comfort. I was in attract, couldn't kino yet, because it wouldn't be welcome, would it? Need to escalate to attract, though. How to do it? Well, I could've shown more energy, for one, and I could have dug deeper, and used what she said about Venezuela, going on about her heritage to qualify. Under such conditions, would getting her to qualify her work? WOuld sexualizing my gaze at this stage be useful?

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What I meant was a neutral, non-sexual vibe before you transition to an intensifying sexual vibe. Energy is good though as it simulates high testosterone rush. Women are naturally attracted to high testosterone men.
When a girl does not give you any eye contact or stays away from your eyes looking sideways or over, you eject and sarge the next girl.

When a girl preens her hair, looks at her hand mirror to fix her make up, dusts off imaginary lints on her clothes, laughs and giggles at what you're saying even when those are not funny, keeps tapping your arm, pinches your belly, etc, you stay in set until you isolate her. When a girl pops a mint chewing gum in her mouth, go for the k-close.

Whenever you feel unsure of yourself, eject. Otherwise, you'll project a creepy vibe.
Whenever you see this nonverbal sign, change topic. Also keep your hands open, do not fold your arms or else she'll mirror your body language. What I usually do is place my two thumbs in my jean's pockets and point all eight fingers to my cock.

Girls can't help but look at your cock area repeatedly when you do this. When I catch girls stealing looks at my crotch, I make pumping motions like banging the air. If someone asks you what are you doing, just say, "I'm dancing. I'm happy. So what are you thinking about, hmm? Care to say what's on your mind?"

Then grab her hand and make dancing motions. Be playful. When she complies, isolate. Look for Skills360's dancefloor seduction on YouTube.

Most of the time, girls will just blush instead of asking what you're doing. They're horny. Their pussies are getting wet. Touch their hair. Make masculine touches. No girlie touches, as doing so will make you look like a fag which puts you in the friendzone. DO NOT GRAB HER EROTIC PRIVATE PARTS IN PUBLIC.
Again, try to look for the nonverbal signs of submissiveness. She looks at you in the eye then she pulls down her gaze and then she pulls it up again. That's when you eye fuck aggressively.

A submissive girl who is ready to fuck is someone who keeps on looking down at the floor when you have already isolated her in your apartment. She's basically accepting your dominance. It's primal instinct.

You eye fuck girls at the open, attract, qualify, comfort, isolate and f-close stages as long as girls keep eye fucking you back.

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I've noticed, believe me; I used to be higher energy, and women responded, even though I wasn't trying to seduce anyone at that time.
I see; I've been doing that a lot, ejecting because I've lost self-confidence, and have no confidence in continuing. Your advice is very practical.
In other words, just as long as they keep eye contact, and you've got confidence, it, not a waste, and the balll is in your court.

Hm. Recently, I was talking to someone (not a girl) and he was giving me fine eye contact, but kept backing away. Ever had a girl do that? In that case, what to do? Change topics, there, too, or is it just a little different? I mean, there's engagement, but all the same, a mixed signal.
Use my eyes at the beginning and throughout, declare interest at the earliest escalate via kino as we progress.

That it in a nutshell?

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