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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:21 pm 
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Hi! I started on-line in 1996 when I was 18- and back then it wasn’t on the internet but over a telephone v-mail system. How fucked up is that?? I saw an ad in the back of the Sun for “Talk to girls who want to meet guys for free today!”. Fuck it was a weird experience, yet fun and exciting and I learned a lot about female-interaction like what worked in an intro message (i.e. leading questions) and what didn’t (i.e. listing stats on height, weight etc). I learned that what worked over voice messages also was successful on-line when I discovered www.lavalife.com in 2000. On-line was way easier to pick-up because it takes away 100% of all nervousness.

Always use a pay-site like LavaLife.com otherwise you’re wasting your time with free sites. Free sites like plentyoffish.com are a waste of time because every guy and their brother is on there. Most importantly, way higher quality girls are on the pay sites. Expect to spend a couple hundred bucks for the privilege.

I experimented with many different on-line profiles, messages, and interactions and I discovered what I think are the basic principles that helped me get laid a lot.

1. An interesting screen-name that is also a conversation-starter (famous phrases or characters work great such as “Tony the Tiger”, “Team America”, “Party Like its 1999”, “Where’s the Beef” etc)

2. A descriptive profile that focuses on your personality (real or fake). In my university marketing courses I learned the qualities of a good advertisement, and I applied it to my on-line profile. I always answered the question “so what?” in my profile before girls could ask for it first. For example I would NEVER just write, “a fun and attractive 22 year old seeking friendship bla bla” but instead I’d try to answer the ‘so what?’ part by writing something like “I love adventure, new experiences, and I want to share exciting times with fun and interesting people”. Chick’s love that and by “exciting times” I was always referring to sex, which some girls would pick-up on.


3. Reach out to as many girls as possible; BUT be engaging to maximize the number of girls who respond to you. This lesson took me a long time to learn, because I would send tons of girls messages and few would respond. I was just the average chode who would say “Hi, how are you? Want to meet for a drink?” then hope to start a dialogue. Doesn’t work. Out of frustration, I began to ask them offensive shit just to get a response like “what’s the youngest guy you’ve ever slept with”, “How often do you masturbate ;-)”, “I love chunky girls- you’re my type!”, “I love older women- you’re my type!” etc etc. An amazing thing happened- I was consistently getting replies!

4. Keep the dialogue going at all costs. It doesn’t matter if they were offended by your message to them. If they said “No way- You’re not my type” I would say “That’s cool- What’s your type?” to find out their values. Once they told me what their type was, I would use their own trance words they already told me to elicit their values and turn into their type!! Credit: Ross Jefferies.

5. Meet in-person as fast as possible. I learned that very few girls have sex after just chatting on-line. I wish they would, but they just won't :-). You actually have to meet them in person a couple of times to close the deal after you’ve already built up your trust and comfort on-line. The lesson is that the sooner you can meet, the sooner you’ll get in her pants. Caution: you have to build up trust in them before suggesting meeting or else you scare them and blow it.

6. Golden rule when asking for a first meeting: Meet in a public place. After many, many, many attempts, I developed a standard way of asking for a meeting which almost always guaranteed a yes answer. Here it is:

“I’d love to continue this conversation with you in person. I find that it’s much easier to get to know someone by chatting face-to-face rather than by sending messages (she will think “Yes, that’s true”). Even if we meet only briefly (false time constraint) and in public (she feels safer). Of course I will only meet after we’re both feeling completely comfortable with each other (NLP), and I’m sure that you feel the same way (this implies that I share her natural apprehension of meeting strangers and makes her feel way more comfortable with me). ”

She will totally agree with you, and think “what the heck- let’s meet. After all it’s only briefly and in public”. Heheheh


And that’s it! :) You now have a place and time to meet her one-on-one! The best part is you’ve already built up rapport before you even see her in person, which greatly enhances your chances of an fclose. And it’s super easy to talk to her because you already practically know each other.

Hope that helps. I’m more than happy to answer any specific questions!

-1Mystique


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:48 am 
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1. An interesting screen-name that is also a conversation-starter (famous phrases or characters work great such as “Tony the Tiger”, “Team America”, “Party Like its 1999”, “Where’s the Beef” etc)
I have also notice off the wall or odd screen names work as well.
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2. A descriptive profile that focuses on your personality (real or fake). In my university marketing courses I learned the qualities of a good advertisement, and I applied it to my on-line profile. I always answered the question “so what?” in my profile before girls could ask for it first. For example I would NEVER just write, “a fun and attractive 22 year old seeking friendship bla bla” but instead I’d try to answer the ‘so what?’ part by writing something like “I love adventure, new experiences, and I want to share exciting times with fun and interesting people”. Chick’s love that and by “exciting times” I was always referring to sex, which some girls would pick-up on.
It is better to write about your real personality than fake, because if and when you do meet with the girl and she sees that your not who you say, its a major lower value thing and will hurt your game. As far as what to say I agree with you on that. I would add that it is better to use action or exciting words as much as possible.

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4. Keep the dialogue going at all costs. It doesn’t matter if they were offended by your message to them. If they said “No way- You’re not my type” I would say “That’s cool- What’s your type?” to find out their values. Once they told me what their type was, I would use their own trance words they already told me to elicit their values and turn into their type!! Credit: Ross Jefferies.
Why change your self so that you can fit the "mold" so the girl will like you? Girls pretty much have no clue what they want. And what ever she tells you is what she thinks she wants.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:02 pm 
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I love the NLP line,' completely comfortable with each other'

Classic!

Its like a Kevin Nealon Mr. Subliminal line lol

Good post Mystique

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:19 am 
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It is better to write about your real personality than fake, because if and when you do meet with the girl and she sees that your not who you say, its a major lower value thing and will hurt your game.
Yup- you bring up a fantastic point. It's 100% important to act in congruence to what you told her. And It's definitely easier to be congruent when you write about your real personality.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:24 am 
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I love the NLP line,' completely comfortable with each other'
Funny you mention it Joshua420 because I've grown to absolutely love that line because it WORKS. Hey - what other lines to you have the most success with?

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