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Youth Riot
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Waffle
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Yo Chiefy!!!!! Okay, so I know you like mind benders, so I got one. Ended up just befriending this girl and we have a lot of fun talking. I call her and she says "oh"... and hangs up. No indication of this everest level cold shoulder, just BAM!!!. Already deleted the number, just want to know an opinion as so I can avoid this in the future.
Possible theories (BF is back, the fact I haven't tried to get into her pants.) |
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Chief
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:47 am Post subject: |
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| Waffle wrote: | Yo Chiefy!!!!! Okay, so I know you like mind benders, so I got one. Ended up just befriending this girl and we have a lot of fun talking. I call her and she says "oh"... and hangs up. No indication of this everest level cold shoulder, just BAM!!!. Already deleted the number, just want to know an opinion as so I can avoid this in the future.
Possible theories (BF is back, the fact I haven't tried to get into her pants.) |
Has this happened before or is this the first time?
If it was the first time this has ever happened, don't worry about it. If you run into this sort of thing again, you've got a sticking point. |
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Ahoy hoy Chief this is a somewhat abstract question and is kinda a repeat of something I have overcome once already. So, recently I have no motivation to approach for the sake of approaching, I only want to approach women I find attractive the problem being I find very few women attractive (2 out of about 400 last night). SO should I bite the bullet and approach approach approach or should I stick to my guns and hunt out somewhere with more women I like.
Also worth noting is I want to train people so will have to have the ability to open sets and escalate even if I am not into them but getting motivated to do so is hard. |
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jay19
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| Got a date with an Emo/scene girl for Friday night. Im wondering what would be a good idea? Was thinking about maybe a party, but having trouble finding one where i know the person/people. Anyway, i'm thinking probably just a movie but that seems kinda lame and boring. I really want this girl to have fun, and i keep thinking that maybe this type of girl (Raver/Scene) might not be into the regular type of dates? If anyoner has any experience with this i'd REALLY appreciate it. |
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sparelooney
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| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:11 am Post subject: speed seduction |
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alrite chief?
speed seducton is the next step in my game. i want quick, easy #closes with the equivalent of enough comfort the next day to continue closing. i have little time at the mo and it would help with social proof, im just back in my small hometown after finishing college in dublin, ireland. i want a harem.
the problem is learning with minimal finances. does reading and practicing suffice for such advanved technology? can web resources do the job? i use subliminal language and am also intersted in mentalism. but i want to excell.
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sparelooney
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| Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| jay19 wrote: | | Got a date with an Emo/scene girl for Friday night. Im wondering what would be a good idea? Was thinking about maybe a party, but having trouble finding one where i know the person/people. Anyway, i'm thinking probably just a movie but that seems kinda lame and boring. I really want this girl to have fun, and i keep thinking that maybe this type of girl (Raver/Scene) might not be into the regular type of dates? If anyoner has any experience with this i'd REALLY appreciate it. |
raver/scene= look for big name djs, obliterates the need for a socially proofed party in your favour, kinda like mutual ground. she obviously has a high energy level so well done on bagging that one. but a movie seems to me like a definite no-no. so club it is. plus nothing gets girls hornier than the hormones at a rave |
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Chief
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| Jaybot wrote: | Ahoy hoy Chief this is a somewhat abstract question and is kinda a repeat of something I have overcome once already. So, recently I have no motivation to approach for the sake of approaching, I only want to approach women I find attractive the problem being I find very few women attractive (2 out of about 400 last night). SO should I bite the bullet and approach approach approach or should I stick to my guns and hunt out somewhere with more women I like.
Also worth noting is I want to train people so will have to have the ability to open sets and escalate even if I am not into them but getting motivated to do so is hard. |
I think I know exactly what you're talking about.
It's good that you approach women that you're actually attracted to. That will increase your success rate for sure. It's also good that you have a pretty strong idea of the type of women you want.
However, you should balance that out with having an open mind about your experiences with your own feelings of attraction. Accept the fact that, no matter how old, wise, and experienced you are, there will always be something else out there that will turn you on that you haven't discovered yet.
Open your mind to become more curious about different types of women and try not to judge a book by its cover so much. Now you have two reasons to approach:
1. sexual attraction
2. curiosity
I don't know about you, but a great number of my awesome experiences in pickup, seduction, and romance have been with women that I didn't even expect to have any sort of relationship with. My first love was actually this girl I just hung out with out of boredom. She was sizzling hot, but I wasn't even thinking about her in that way initially. Some experiences can evolve into something greater than you can initially imagine, so just get out there and open yourself up to more good and pleasurable experiences by opening more!
Also, pickup should not be a chore for a pickup artist. Your current lack of motivation tells me you've lost the focus of how much fun it is to express yourself through this art just for the sake of the artistry. Maybe you haven't discovered a style of gaming that makes you feel free in the way Carlos Santana feels when he's playing a guitar solo in his own style. You can never lose motivation to do something like that.
However, if you decide not to be an in-field pickup instructor, the way you're doing things now seems just fine to me. Nothing wrong with just approaching women that you know you're attracted to if you don't have to flex your seduction muscles for paying clientele.  |
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Chief
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| jay19 wrote: | | Got a date with an Emo/scene girl for Friday night. Im wondering what would be a good idea? Was thinking about maybe a party, but having trouble finding one where i know the person/people. Anyway, i'm thinking probably just a movie but that seems kinda lame and boring. I really want this girl to have fun, and i keep thinking that maybe this type of girl (Raver/Scene) might not be into the regular type of dates? If anyoner has any experience with this i'd REALLY appreciate it. |
The "type" of girl and the actual date venue(s) are pretty much irrelevant. Just be a fun and exciting person on the date and bring her to many places during the date and you're good as gold.
You see, more often than not, pickup is more about YOU than it is about the woman. By that I mean that trying to cater to specific girls or specific "types" of girls is a pretty USELESS thing to do unless you're at a master level where you can microcalibrate like crazy and draw out specific blueprints for certain types of women in accordance to various logistical variables. I can't even do that shit. I know some MPUAs like Sinn can do stuff like that, but don't even bother trying to tackle that angle if you're not trying to make teaching seduction your career.
What you should be focusing on, however, is how you should be expressing your own damn self in the most effective way possible in order to be attractive to women as a whole. If you do that, you can even make a movie date the best date she's ever been on. If you want to read more on the movie date example, check out my article on movie dates here: [link] |
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Chief
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| Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: speed seduction |
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| sparelooney wrote: | alrite chief?
speed seducton is the next step in my game. i want quick, easy #closes with the equivalent of enough comfort the next day to continue closing. i have little time at the mo and it would help with social proof, im just back in my small hometown after finishing college in dublin, ireland. i want a harem.
the problem is learning with minimal finances. does reading and practicing suffice for such advanved technology? can web resources do the job? i use subliminal language and am also intersted in mentalism. but i want to excell.
thank you |
Just try it out and get back to me if you have any questions (or post them in the NLP Seduction section of this forum).
You mentioned that you have "little time" at the moment. If you think that Speed Seduction is going to be some quick fix method that you can use as some sort of magical incantation, you will surely be disappointed. Every method of seduction out there takes time and effort to use effectively, but SS takes an especially longer time to master compared to most other methods out there. |
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Who
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Chief,
What books you recommend to read that may be able to lay down several small goals to achieve for a usual guy who just started to learn about the whole PUA thing. All I want is to be a bit more social and to be more attractive to girl.
Do you recommend any books to read for us beginners?
Thanks,
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| Who wrote: | Hey Chief,
What books you recommend to read that may be able to lay down several small goals to achieve for a usual guy who just started to learn about the whole PUA thing. All I want is to be a bit more social and to be more attractive to girl.
Do you recommend any books to read for us beginners?
Thanks,
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Several small goals? The Zen of Meeting Women by Max Weiss comes with a series of pretty easy-going missions. It's probably exactly what you're looking for.  |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject: New roommate is way better looking then me |
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Hi,
I am getting a new roommate who is a good friend and a cool guy. But he is a male model and is very good looking. Could this be a DHV for me? or will this cause problems. It seems to have caused problems recently, i bring girls in and they seem to flock to him. Let me know what you think
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Chief
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:04 am Post subject: Re: New roommate is way better looking then me |
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| Stooge wrote: | Hi,
I am getting a new roommate who is a good friend and a cool guy. But he is a male model and is very good looking. Could this be a DHV for me? or will this cause problems. It seems to have caused problems recently, i bring girls in and they seem to flock to him. Let me know what you think
thanks,
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Develop a strong friendship with him and eventually, accompanied by some good frame control on your part, he will do nothing but DHV you. Guys can give other guys just as much social proof as pivots can if you play your cards right.
If there is ever a sense of competition or jealousy between the two of you, you're fucked. However, a strong bond with a sharing and compassionate mentality will lead to a win-win outcome. Be sure to go out and party (sarge) with him, too. Pulling 2-sets with him might prove to be a very beneficial experience. |
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Luky
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| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Hey Chief!
I wanted to ask you questions about being an Asian PUA the most--it's what got me to sign-up for the forums! (*I'm Asian too, sorry if I rehash come questions I didn't get to read all of the posts yet; midterms..)
Anyhow, do you think it's wrong for me to disregard Asian women as part of my game? I've had a so-so rate (one per year) of Asian girls interested in me, currently there's one who won't stop bothering me (she's just a 5, but I'm biased...) I'm curious to know if I should change my mentality? I'm currently more open to Asian women than in the past, but growing up primarily amongst females (my mom and sisters) puts up a mental block when I approach Asian women. For the most part, they resemble my family members... 
I'm not interested in them because (maybe deep down inside) I feel Asian men are undesirable and that by getting a white women (or any non-Asian) it'll help fill my ego, plus I've been exposed to too much pop culture. As much as I work on my inner game, there's still this nagging stigma I can't seem to undo!
Some other questions, do you think progressively going for hotter chicks is the way to go? Say I start out with 5's and 6's then work my way up? Being Asian seems to be used against me a lot even by Asian women, how do I turn this around?! My situation is a little complicated because I'm from Hawaii where Asian guys are dirt common and white girls are uncommon.
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